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Old Feb 15, 2013, 04:59 PM   #126
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It's not quite as epic as the elephant but for the Americans and nostalgic Brits, google Simon Groom, Blue Peter and Knockers.
Hah! Apparently, he knew exactly what he was doing when he said that... And, yes, the 'Advent Crown': 'only four more Blue Peters 'til Christmas'...
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:04 PM   #127
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But the point trying to be made is if something isn't user repairable its crap design and using iFixit comments to back up their assertion. Also Kyle Wiens penned a letter to Ive complaining about Apple (in his opinion) not following Dieter Rams principles for good design. I guess we'll see if he pens a similar letter to Panos Panay over the Surface Pro design. Personally I think it's all much ado about nothing. I'm sure Apple and Microsoft aren't losing sleep over the ratings they get on iFixit.
You do have to admit that it would be nice if all these tablets could be self serviced though. At the very least, they could make it easy for those in the repair business to get into.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:08 PM   #128
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Would our non-UK members understand what 'knockers' were in that context, I wonder?
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:09 PM   #129
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But the point trying to be made is if something isn't user repairable its crap design and using iFixit comments to back up their assertion. Also Kyle Wiens penned a letter to Ive complaining about Apple (in his opinion) not following Dieter Rams principles for good design. I guess we'll see if he pens a similar letter to Panos Panay over the Surface Pro design. Personally I think it's all much ado about nothing. I'm sure Apple and Microsoft aren't losing sleep over the ratings they get on iFixit.
I agree. If my iPad breaks, I go to an Apple store and they normally just replace it (free of charge), if they don't I toss it and buy a newer model. It's not like they're very expensive.

It's not like my TV, stereo, microwave, etc are user repairable either.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:15 PM   #130
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I agree. If my iPad breaks, I go to an Apple store and they normally just replace it (free of charge), if they don't I toss it and buy a newer model. It's not like they're very expensive.
I dunno. If I kept having to buy a new iPad every year because they kept breaking, I'd probably opt for something a little more solid and well built.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:18 PM   #131
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Gold Blue Peter? WTF? The guy is a friggin' KNIGHT fer chrissakes!
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:46 PM   #132
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Gold Blue Peter? WTF? The guy is a friggin' KNIGHT fer chrissakes!
You would be surprised in the UK you have more chance of getting a knighthood than getting a Gold Blue Peter - in the 50 years the show has been running they have only given out 1,000 gold badges. Prior winners include the Her Majesty the Queen, JK Rowling and David Beckam. For a designer like Jonny I have a sneaking suspicion this award was up there with his knighthood.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 06:07 PM   #133
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Good for Jony! he looked genuinely happy to receive it
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 06:19 PM   #134
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Gold Blue Peter? WTF? The guy is a friggin' KNIGHT fer chrissakes!
Easier to get a knighthood than a Gold Blue Peter badge. I wouldn't be surprised if this actually meant more to him.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 06:20 PM   #135
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I remember that... It was the Susan Stranks / Jenny Hanley / Tony Bastaple / Mick Robinson era... Early seventies ... Or am I getting all confused...?
That would have been in my third year at junior school, so '74-75 time.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 06:54 PM   #137
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You do have to admit that it would be nice if all these tablets could be self serviced though. At the very least, they could make it easy for those in the repair business to get into.
I guess I'm lucky because I've never had to have an iDevice repaired (don't own a Mac). But if I did I'd take it to an Apple store. That's why I have AppleCare. I just think its the future and iFixit will have to get over it.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 07:42 PM   #138
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Am I the only one who thinks Johnny should stick that BBC where the sun don't shine
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 08:47 PM   #139
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Er yes. Because he is from the UK.
Certainly, but the poster I quoted made it sound like he only pronounced it "aluminium" because he was being presented a british TV award of sorts. Suggesting he would have pronounced it "aluminum" otherwise.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 08:53 PM   #140
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I dunno. If I kept having to buy a new iPad every year because they kept breaking, I'd probably opt for something a little more solid and well built.
There you go being logical again. At times logic doesn't go over well here.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 09:01 PM   #141
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There you go being logical again. At times logic doesn't go over well here.
Yeah, but you know me. Despite the undue pain. The extreme suffering. The unfathomable anguish. The complete and utter pointlessness of it all...

I'll always be an optimist.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 09:04 PM   #142
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You can't buy gold Blue Peter badges.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gold-Blue...item2c6bfedc38

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NOVELTY-G...item337fbb5341

Ok, they're not genuine, but from a distance...

Being an Aussie, I only know Blue Peter via Doctor Who... (THANK-YOU Blue Peter for deciding to show the Hartnell regeneration!!!)

But obviously it's a pretty big deal, and it's great to see Ive accept the award.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 09:04 PM   #143
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That's why I have AppleCare.
You do understand that you pay extra because Apple doesn't care right?

The only reason why people buy AppleCare is because marketing works. Its profitable in America to sell these types of structures. In Europe you get 2 or 3 years but never the less lots of people don't know the laws that well so they also fall for Apple's marketing anyway. (many articles about this on MacRumors)

If we are really honest with ourselves we would come to the conclusion that one year warranties are a complete joke if products are well designed.
Paying extra to get 2 more years only shows companies can sell anything to almost everyone without them knowing they got ripped off.
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The word you're looking for is "marketing"
And yes that is truly sad indeed.
so, ppl who are jobless are eligible for BP award?
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 02:24 AM   #145
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This will have American's scratching their heads, but to the Brits it doesn't come much better than a gold Blue Peter Badge (spoken in a John Noakes accent). He's finally arrIVEd!

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Old Feb 16, 2013, 02:42 AM   #146
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Light blue shirt on light blue pants. Not what I would expect from one of the worlds foremost designers.

Anyway good on him on this award
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 03:13 AM   #147
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OMG a real fanboy. How can I ever have a normal conversation with you..
Every time that I see his sig, I think about how disturbing it is.

And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that JI in the avatar as well ? Scary if it is.

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Old Feb 16, 2013, 03:21 AM   #148
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Light blue shirt on light blue pants. Not what I would expect from one of the worlds foremost designers.

Anyway good on him on this award

I dont think his passion for great design stretches to his clothes......
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 05:34 AM   #149
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You do understand that you pay extra because Apple doesn't care right?

The only reason why people buy AppleCare is because marketing works. Its profitable in America to sell these types of structures. In Europe you get 2 or 3 years but never the less lots of people don't know the laws that well so they also fall for Apple's marketing anyway. (many articles about this on MacRumors)

If we are really honest with ourselves we would come to the conclusion that one year warranties are a complete joke if products are well designed.
Paying extra to get 2 more years only shows companies can sell anything to almost everyone without them knowing they got ripped off.
Well, my imac's screen started blacking out about 1.5 years after I bought it. Thanks to Applecare, they sent people down to bring it back for servicing, and brought it back to my house. I think the servicing costs saved alone more than offsets whatever I spent on applecare.

And if Apple offered "free 3 year warranty", it simply means the costs are factored into the initial selling price. So either way, I don't see how we would be any better off.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 05:50 AM   #150
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GREAT POINT!!!

Some people when they hear "minimalist website" might think Google, but we know that when all the smart hip people like yourself hear "minimalist website" they think iphone....
Thanks, but I'm far too old to be hip. Were you bullied at school or something? My point was, instead of throwing sarcastic jibes and thinly veiled insults around, why not try to contribute something positive? Which is after all the underlying theme of this story.
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