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Old Feb 19, 2013, 05:25 PM   #26
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Same here, I have the 1.6.0_37, I have downloaded the one from the oracle website and run again the terminal app to check which version and still says as the above. What am I not getting?
That Terminal command shows the version of the Java JRE you have, which is not the same thing as the web plugin. The web plugin is what was updated by Apple today.

http://javatester.org/version.html

Turn on Java in your browser and visit this page. It will show what Java plugin version your browser is running.

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Just got a popup notice that Oracle has released an update to Java 7 bringing it up to v15.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 05:43 PM   #27
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There have been so many java updates as of recent- I'm at a loss of what is current and what is suspect.

In addition, I have to support my family both in house and abroad. It's becoming a fiasco. One needs it for banking, 2 for gaming etc etc.

What a pain in the ass.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:01 PM   #28
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Followed the instructions and I still can't get the plugin to run on some websites.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:04 PM   #29
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Well, you have Java 6, which isn't updated, and probably installed Java 7 without activating it as the default JVM. So, as you have still Java 6, the Software Update is offering you the actual update. Plus, you must note that all Java applications will run under Java 6 if you don't change the settings.
My JRE is set to 1.70_15 in Java Control Panel, but according to cnet Oracles Control panel can't access Apples Runtime anyway.

[QUOTE=Weaselboy;16874120]That Terminal command shows the version of the Java JRE you have, which is not the same thing as the web plugin. The web plugin is what was updated by Apple today.

http://javatester.org/version.html

Turn on Java in your browser and visit this page. It will show what Java plugin version your browser is running.

That site says 1.7.0.15

So it seems that I'm using Oracles version of 7 for internet plug-ins and 6 for the system? Which I guess makes sense since this page http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7...times-in-os-x/ says "The installation of Java 7 does not remove the Java 6 runtime from OS X, but simply replaces Apple's Java Internet plug-in link with its plug-in package."
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:08 PM   #30
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This is all very confusing. I've had a preference pane in preferences, for Java, and I've been updating Java through the app that the pane launches.

Though today that seems to be broken, so I went to Applications, searched for JavaSomethingOrOther.plugin, and blew it away. The preference pane is now gone, so I'm no longer getting the error. LOL.

I'm lost. Do we get Java from Oracle or Apple?

Bah, I don't even need it really. Maybe I should just get rid of it altogether.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:12 PM   #31
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I am just glad my GoPro has an alternative firmware update to java. I don't need Java at all now
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:12 PM   #32
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I know I have Java 7 I downloaded it from Oracle

Terminal says:

java version "1.6.0_37"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_37-b06-434-11M3909)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.12-b01-434, mixed mode)
How do you get that you have "Java 7" from all that? It looks like 1.6!! Arrrgh. Lost. Confused.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:27 PM   #33
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How do you get that you have "Java 7" from all that? It looks like 1.6!! Arrrgh. Lost. Confused.
That does say Version 6, but I know I have 7 installed as well, and the web page that tests your plug-in says version 7, Don't worry Im confused too
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:55 PM   #34
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When I check my java version via terminal command, I get: "No Java runtime present, requesting install."

I have Java 7 from Oracle ... so I'm all good, and don't have to worry about this update right?

Also, I am running 10.8.2
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:58 PM   #35
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Does anyone know how to manually run the malware removal "tool" they are talking about?

I don't trust that it's ran automatically - I ran the update, but I want to be absolutely certain that I don't have malware
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 07:38 PM   #36
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Java's future is rocky
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 08:30 PM   #37
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People still use Java?

Better scan your floppy drives after the update too then.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 08:36 PM   #38
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i've disabled java. Do i need to disable javascript too ?
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 09:00 PM   #39
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 09:22 PM   #40
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I haven't got this update yet.... Software Update still reports "No updates available"

But i don't use Java anyway.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 09:36 PM   #41
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i've disabled java. Do i need to disable javascript too ?
No. Despite the name similarity, they are not related.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 09:41 PM   #42
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I haven't got this update yet.... Software Update still reports "No updates available"

But i don't use Java anyway.
Your downloading it the wrong way! LOL
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 10:03 PM   #43
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The Mac App Store doesn't have any malware tool for me to download, on 10.8. Should it? Where can I get it?
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 03:21 AM   #44
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Java. Just Another Vulnerability Announcement.
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Oracle should change the name of their Java product to Achilles.
Or Helen perhaps, you know, Helen of.....you know what.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 03:51 AM   #45
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The Mac App Store doesn't have any malware tool for me to download, on 10.8. Should it? Where can I get it?
Install Java for OS X 2013-001 from Software Update (or get it at http://support.apple.com/downloads/D...SX2013-001.dmg ). The malware removal tool is installed along with this update, and it is run automatically by launchd. Unless malware is found on your system, the tool will do its job invisibly.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 04:27 AM   #46
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People still use Java?

Better scan your floppy drives after the update too then.
It's still the most popular programming language in the world and the leading industry standard. And even Apple run their entire server backends on it. (No, they do not use Objective-C there. Just like they run Solaris and not OS X on their own server farms.) So yes, I think people still use Java.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 05:01 AM   #47
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Does anyone know how to manually run the malware removal "tool" they are talking about?

I don't trust that it's ran automatically - I ran the update, but I want to be absolutely certain that I don't have malware
It's designed to be run automatically via launchd.

It you insist on running it manually, you can open Terminal (in Utilities), paste in the following and press return. You'll need to authenticate.

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sudo /usr/libexec/MRT
I've included the output that I received below.

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2013-02-20 05:52:36.665 MRT[818:707] Error opening path for pattern match: Too many levels of symbolic links
2013-02-20 05:52:37.624 MRT[818:707] Error opening path for pattern match: Too many levels of symbolic links
2013-02-20 05:52:38.117 MRT[818:707] MRT finished scan. Malware files were not found.
2013-02-20 05:52:38.123 MRT[818:707] Error: SMJobRemove: The operation couldn’t be completed. (kSMErrorDomainLaunchd error 6 - The specified job could not be found.)
I assume that the final error occurs because the executable is being invoked directly but is designed to be invoked by launchd (and to clean up after itself, so to speak). Not sure which paths contained too many levels of symlinks, but I assume that these messages are also inconsequential.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 05:03 AM   #48
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I'm surprised Apple is still offering Java updates for Snow Leopard. Usually their policy is supporting the most recent 2 OS versions only and Leopard didn't get Java updates this long once Lion was released. Works out for me anyways since one of my older Macs still runs Snow Leopard. Too bad they don't offer full security updates to address other parts of the OS.
With the faster release cycles I believe we're going to see continued support..

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It's still the most popular programming language in the world and the leading industry standard. And even Apple run their entire server backends on it. (No, they do not use Objective-C there. Just like they run Solaris and not OS X on their own server farms.) So yes, I think people still use Java.
See but it's outside the Apple world so it has no value or is legacy. If jesus errr Tim Cook says it's ok it'll be the best thing ever
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 05:05 AM   #49
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Java's future is rocky
Java's future is fine.

However, it'll be on the server side where it has always excelled, rather than in the web browser, where it has always sucked.
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Old Feb 20, 2013, 10:00 AM   #50
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Type "java -version" in Terminal.
After installing java update 13 on 10.6.8 I got an odd message:

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MacBookPro:~ mdewakanton$ java version
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: version
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: version
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:202)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)
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