Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:40 PM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Apple's ATI Radeon HD 5870 Works in 2008 Mac Pro






According to Barefeats, Apple's ATI Radeon HD 5870 Graphics Upgrade Kit ($449) for the Mac Pro does indeed work in the 2008 Mac Pro. This is despite the fact that Apple only officially lists the 2009 and 2010 Mac Pros as supported hardware for the upgrade card.
Quote:
We plugged the Radeon HD 5870 into the 2008 Mac Pro. It works like a charm. Runs Portal faster than the 6-core Westmere. Details coming soon.
This gives existing 2008 Mac Pro owners another video card upgrade option from Apple. We had previously reported when the video cards had become available for purchase from Apple's online store. Barefeats has posted some preliminary results on the forums:
Quote:
Here's an appetizer. I'm benchmarking Portal First Slice (which all my remote testers are using).

At 1920x1200 with these settings:
Model Detail = High, Texture Detail = High, Shader Detail = High
Water Detail = Reflect All, Shadow Detail = High, Color Correction = Enabled
Antialiasing Mode = None, Filtering Mode = Anisotropic 4X
Vertical Sync = Disabled, Motion Blur = Enabled

The 6-core Westmere 3.33 (2010) with Radeon HD 5870 = 233 FPS avg
The 8-core Harpertown 3.2 (2008) with Radeon HD 5870 = 250 FPS avg
The 2008 model is faster!!
Full results should appear on Barefeats shortly.

Article Link: Apple's ATI Radeon HD 5870 Works in 2008 Mac Pro
MacRumors is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:43 PM   #2
bozz2006
macrumors 68030
 
bozz2006's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Minnesota
so... 2006 Mac Pro?
bozz2006 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:45 PM   #3
Dwalls90
macrumors 68040
 
Dwalls90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
I know many people are asking about the 2006 ... but would you want to spend $450+ on a 4 year old machine? That's 1/4 the price of a new setup.
__________________
MacBook Pro 2820QM + iPhone 5s
Dwalls90 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:46 PM   #4
alent1234
macrumors 603
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
A PCI express card works in a computer with a PCI express slot. stop the presses, this is amazing
alent1234 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:48 PM   #5
Wild-Bill
macrumors 68020
 
Wild-Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: ?
Apple doesn't "support" it for the 2008 Mac Pro because they would rather have 2008 MP owners buy a completely new system in order to get the new video card.

Unfortunately for Apple, consumers are smarter than that.
__________________
Wild-Bill is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:49 PM   #6
Timan
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Awesome! next thing i'm gifting myself is that.
Timan is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:50 PM   #7
macusersince5
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Ha ha glad it works for all you amazing folks out there. Truly a Win Situation
__________________
13" White Macbook 2.4GHZ
Mac Pro 2010- 2.4 ghz 8 core
Final Cut Studio and AE CS 5
macusersince5 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:52 PM   #8
Rodimus Prime
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild-Bill View Post
Apple doesn't "support" it for the 2008 Mac Pro because they would rather have 2008 MP owners buy a completely new system in order to get the new video card.

Unfortunately for Apple, consumers are smarter than that.
yep it more proof of typical Apple. They will lie on marketing among the worse of the worse or even intentally break things just to force people to upgrade.

Would I honestly be shocked if apple broke this ablity in the future. No I would not.
Rodimus Prime is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:55 PM   #9
avkills
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Yeah I did not get that...they state is a PCIe2.0 spec card as long as you have a PCIe 2.0 slot whats the difference?

I'm glad someone tried this because I was writing them off, now I am back on board with them.

-mark
avkills is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:57 PM   #10
OS X Dude
macrumors 6502a
 
OS X Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Midlands, UK
Screw it working on a 2006 MP, I want this on my 2006 MacBook ha, even with an external adaptor it would rock my world.

*wakes up in real world*
__________________
32GB Space Grey iPhone 5 S⃣ (EE, unltd. 4G!)
2011 15" i7 MacBook Pro
32GB WiFi Black iPad "3"
2006 White Core 2 Duo MacBook
OS X Dude is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 12:59 PM   #11
cloudz
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
5770 Next

Now, I wonder if the new 5770 card will also work with 2008 Mac Pro.
cloudz is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:05 PM   #12
mwayne85
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
This is good news indeed. What I'm curious about is why Apple says that the card only works with the 2009 and 2010 models... There must be a reason. It can't simply be that they want us all to upgrade to the newest models. I'd hate to drop $400 on the card only to have a software update kill it (not saying that's what's gonna happen, but I'm just thinking out loud).
mwayne85 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:05 PM   #13
ranReloaded
macrumors 6502a
 
ranReloaded's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Tokyo
mmh... Maybe it DOES support it but performance isn't "up to Apple's standards"? Kind of iOS 4 on 1st gen iPhone, but better?
ranReloaded is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:07 PM   #14
PeterQVenkman
macrumors 68020
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
That's a bit of a premium on the card. Can one use PC versions of the card and flash the ROM?
PeterQVenkman is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:10 PM   #15
Xenious
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Texas, USA
When it will actually be for sale?
Xenious is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:15 PM   #16
AppleZwei
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by ranReloaded View Post
mmh... Maybe it DOES support it but performance isn't "up to Apple's standards"? Kind of iOS 4 on 1st gen iPhone, but better?
No this is a standard case of apples greed.

Just FYI you can buy a card from new egg, do a few extra steps and spend way less on this card.
AppleZwei is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:15 PM   #17
BC2009
macrumors 68000
 
BC2009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by mwayne85 View Post
This is good news indeed. What I'm curious about is why Apple says that the card only works with the 2009 and 2010 models... There must be a reason. It can't simply be that they want us all to upgrade to the newest models. I'd hate to drop $400 on the card only to have a software update kill it (not saying that's what's gonna happen, but I'm just thinking out loud).
My guess is that its a support decision. When you are given a project you need to budget your allocated time between engineering/development and testing and various other things like project management. The team probably opted to save hours/cost on testing by cutting out the 2008 mac pro from their testing matrix.

Its more a matter of the cost of supporting it and testing it than it not actually working. Apple is notorious for expecting their customers to upgrade often -- though I would think they would lengthen the expected timespan for upgrade with the Mac Pro series -- these machines are meant to be expandable so they can last 5 years.

If Apple wanted to be jerks and force upgrades they would find some way to make it not work on the older hardware.

As a side note, I called the Apple store and asked if they carried third-party shoelace cases for the Nike+ sensor. They told me that Apple does not support Nike+iPod on non-Nike shoes. Does that make me think for one minute that it won't work? More likely a contractual agreement with Nike.

Last edited by BC2009; Aug 24, 2010 at 01:25 PM.
BC2009 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:21 PM   #18
ovrlrd
macrumors 65816
 
ovrlrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenious View Post
When it will actually be for sale?
Yeah to me the question isn't "why did Apple say it only works with 2009 and 2010 MPs" it's "when will they actually start selling it?"

I understand they want to give inventory priority to new Mac Pro buyers, but they could still let people place orders, no?
ovrlrd is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:24 PM   #19
Spike Spiegel
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Send a message via AIM to Spike Spiegel
Just to clarify, the 2008 Mac Pro is the 3,1, correct?
__________________
Lucille mistook the drowsy-eyed alcohol warning for a winky-eyed alcohol suggestion.
Spike Spiegel is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:25 PM   #20
skeep5
macrumors 6502a
 
skeep5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: AZ
that's insane.
__________________
Don't mess with me porkchop, what day is this?
my Self Defense iPhone App
skeep5 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:28 PM   #21
Wild-Bill
macrumors 68020
 
Wild-Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mwayne85 View Post
It can't simply be that they want us all to upgrade to the newest models.
Yes it can. We now have hard evidence that it does work (as most expected) in the 2008 Mac Pro. Apple does not support it because they want you to buy a new machine.

Same thing happened with the nVidia 8800GT and the 2006 Mac Pro. Apple was hounded by angry 2006 MP owners and they eventually came up with a solution. I think it was EFI related but not sure.
__________________
Wild-Bill is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:34 PM   #22
Luis Ortega
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fetcham Surrey UK
Is it worth to upgrade from a gtx 285?
Luis Ortega is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:34 PM   #23
PinkyMacGodess
macrumors 68000
 
PinkyMacGodess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Midwest America.
How are people getting these? The Apple Store says they are 'Unavailable'...
PinkyMacGodess is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:34 PM   #24
Devnor
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Who buys a Macpro to play video games LOL
Devnor is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:35 PM   #25
ovrlrd
macrumors 65816
 
ovrlrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by PinkyMacGodess View Post
How are people getting these? The Apple Store says they are 'Unavailable'...
They are available as a BTO option for new Mac Pros.
ovrlrd is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Radeon HD 5770 works in 2009 Mac Pro grey17 Mac Pro 15 Jun 29, 2013 03:37 PM
Apple Radeon HD 5870 works on 2006 Mac Pro barefeats Mac Pro 26 May 17, 2012 04:18 PM
ATI 5770 problems in 2008 Mac Pro sigmadog Mac Pro 9 Feb 23, 2012 11:51 PM
Precise instructions for getting x2 ATI Radeon HD 5870's in your Mac Pro (2009-2010) blackwoodfx Mac Pro 83 Jan 23, 2012 01:46 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:55 PM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC