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Old Sep 19, 2012, 04:30 AM   #1
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Angry Furious over new advertisements in iTunes content.

I just downloaded season 5 episode 2 of Sons of Anarchy to find the first 23 seconds of the episode is an advertisement! I am ****in livid! This is ********!!! I ****in payed full price for a season pass and now I am being forced to watch advertisements. I am so furious right now that I cant even enjoy the show that I just downloaded. I feel as thought a serious amount of trust has been broken here. Im in so much disbelief right now. I will never buy content from iTunes again.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 04:32 AM   #2
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Really? I'm surprised. You would have though they would have put up an "agree to terms" window that says they will add adverts.

I agree, its pretty poor. What network is this show on?
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 04:32 AM   #3
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Whoa, that sucks. That's the first I've heard of such a thing. I thought if we paid for episodes/seasons then we wouldn't have to deal with this. Shame.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 04:33 AM   #4
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really? I'm surprised. You would have though they would have put up an "agree to terms" window that says they will add adverts.

I agree, its pretty poor. What network is this show on?
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 04:38 AM   #5
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mmmm something to keep an eye on. Thanks for the heads up. Wonder if the UK will get this too.

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Just had a thought. I wonder if this is due to deals being made with Networks for the new Apple TV Set top box and thats why we are starting to see ads.


*ponders*
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mmmm something to keep an eye on. Thanks for the heads up. Wonder if the UK will get this too.

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Just had a thought. I wonder if this is due to deals being made with Networks for the new Apple TV Set top box and thats why we are starting to see ads.


*ponders*
I would still think that if you pay for a season/episode you shouldn't have to view ads. Or at least there should be an option to pay a lesser fee and agree to ads.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 08:53 AM   #7
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It seems Fox does this with their content, FX is owned by Fox
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 08:58 AM   #8
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Thanks for the heads up. I definitely won't be buying any content with ads. What was the ad for?
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 09:51 AM   #9
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As mentioned above, Fox has been doing this for some time now. Comedy Central did it for awhile as well, but I think they've backed off of it now.
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I would still think that if you pay for a season/episode you shouldn't have to view ads. Or at least there should be an option to pay a lesser fee and agree to ads.
That would be awesome, but entirely up to the content provider.
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I just downloaded season 5 episode 2 of Sons of Anarchy to find the first 23 seconds of the episode is an advertisement! I am ****in livid! This is ********!!! I ****in payed full price for a season pass and now I am being forced to watch advertisements. I am so furious right now that I cant even enjoy the show that I just downloaded. I feel as thought a serious amount of trust has been broken here. Im in so much disbelief right now. I will never buy content from iTunes again.
Over-react much? It's amazing the things that get people so upset they have to type *****. Most certainly first world problems. 23 Seconds you will never, ever get back.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 10:11 AM   #12
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im pretty sure DVDS have ads at the begining too, and you pay for those
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 11:21 AM   #13
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I agree that this is unacceptable considering the prices for TV shows on iTunes. What's next, commercial breaks every 5 minutes in our paid content?

At the very least Apple needs to disclose on the store page if an episode contains advertisements. Please make sure to write a short review if you encounter something like this, so others are warned.

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As mentioned above, Fox has been doing this for some time now.
Which Fox shows are affected? The only FX show I have is Justified, and that did not have ads so far.
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im pretty sure DVDS have ads at the begining too, and you pay for those
Yup, and movies in the theater.
And premium cable, a la HBO / Showtime.
And standard cable.
And magazines.
And newspapers.

All of which you pay for.

If you're really this upset about receiving advertisements just because "OMG I PAID FOR THIS", that reflects more on you than it does on Apple/FX.
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Are these ad's for products or other shows they produce?
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I have never seen a TV show DVD that has ads before every single episode. Usually they have some easily skippable movie trailers when you insert the DVD, nothing more.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 12:11 PM   #17
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yeah, what type of ads?
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 12:23 PM   #18
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Are these ad's for products or other shows they produce?
It was an ad for the network FX and some of their shows.

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Yup, and movies in the theater.
And premium cable, a la HBO / Showtime.
And standard cable.
And magazines.
And newspapers.

All of which you pay for.

If you're really this upset about receiving advertisements just because "OMG I PAID FOR THIS", that reflects more on you than it does on Apple/FX.
I don't got to the movies often for multiple reasons.
I don't have cable for the past 10 years because I can't stand advertisements.
No magazines, or newspaper.
I run a browser with adblock to kill what doesn't get caught at the DNS level.

The reason I was so upset is because I felt duped. Apple normally doesn't have advertisements and with that I have been selling all of my physical media for iTunes content. Now I have found out the hard way that they do allow advertising in their content and it's very frustrating having made the commitment to convert all of my content.
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Well...

Technically, you didn't pay full price, you paid a license fee to iTunes that allowed you to download and view the content.

Without advertising support, we'd pay a lot more for video from iTunes and similar.

23 seconds though? Seriously? That's either 10 or 5% of the show. Seems reasonable to me.

Disappointing, sure.
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Technically, you didn't pay full price, you paid a license fee to iTunes that allowed you to download and view the content.
What does that even mean? Of course we paid full price. And quite often the shows are equally or even more expensive on iTunes than on DVD/Blu-ray.
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Without advertising support, we'd pay a lot more for video from iTunes and similar.
Given that so far shows/movies on iTunes didn't have any ads, I don't understand how you come to this conclusion.

I really do not like this, since one of the main reasons why I buy shows on iTunes is to escape the ads, especially on network shows. If this takes hold, I for one will look for alternatives.
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Technically, you didn't pay full price, you paid a license fee to iTunes that allowed you to download and view the content.

Without advertising support, we'd pay a lot more for video from iTunes and similar.

23 seconds though? Seriously? That's either 10 or 5% of the show. Seems reasonable to me.

Disappointing, sure.
I most definitely paid full price for my content. $35 or so for a season pass. The same amount or if not more than what it would cost for the Blu-Ray equivalent.
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I most definitely paid full price for my content. $35 or so for a season pass. The same amount or if not more than what it would cost for the Blu-Ray equivalent.
The Blu-Ray equivalent which is also subsidized by ads. That's the point.
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Huh?

Uh guys, you really don't think the price iTunes charges for completely makes up for the millions of dollars it costs to produce and market TV shows, do you?

Even if a super-popular show was supported entirely by $35/season downloads, it wouldn't be enough to cover the cost of producing it. The overage is paid for by advertisers that pay money to the production studios.

Network shows can't currently exist without some kind of advertising. The market that purchases content online do not, as of this time, completely cover the cost of production.

Maybe for stuff like Louie, sure. But not the bigger network shows.
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The Blu-Ray equivalent which is also subsidized by ads. That's the point.
I understand the point, but also understand that Apple has set a precedent with no advertisements in their content. This is a huge deal to some, a major selling point. They are now allowing content providers to include advertisement in the content. This is a big shift in Apple's policy(set by precedent), and they did so without warning the consumer.
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I understand the point, but also understand that Apple has set a precedent with no advertisements in their content. This is a huge deal to some, a major selling point. They are now allowing content providers to include advertisement in the content. This is a big shift in Apple's policy(set by precedent), and they did so without warning the consumer.
I agree with this completely.

I actually buy some iTunes TV content simply because I work out while watching and don't want to mess with watching/skipping commercials because it's inconvenient. Plus when streamed, who wants an ad per episode? I'd prefer to buy on Blu-ray and rip myself if that's where we're headed.

Of course everyone has their own tolerance level for these things.
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