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Old Feb 25, 2013, 05:39 PM   #26
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Not necessarily a good thing for Apple, to let conservative Telecom executive dictate via their old formulae.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 05:47 PM   #27
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And he knows something about becoming a little less arrogant, seeing all his customers flee to Free mobile. Orange is as despicable and evil as AT&T, I hope they choke on a ham sandwich and die.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 05:47 PM   #28
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I think Orange knows lots about being arrogant, not being flexible at all and not giving a s*** about user complaints. Heck, they're the company that maintains a different cost per kilobyte for email and for 'regular' internet on their payg offer. They piss on net neutrality, charge their customers twice as much as competitors, have the ********* set top box in the Hexagon, crappy access to YouTube and dont allow you to use your phone as a modem or voip terminal without prohibitive additional charges.
No wonder their customer base is steadily reducing towards a fringe of 70+ year olds from the coyntryside who still believe that France Telecom has the monopoly on télécommunications.

So yeah they can talk...
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 05:55 PM   #29
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So many CEOs are happy that they now have to meet with Tim instead of Steve. Steve probably made them feel like fools no matter what their status. Of course it was that arrogance that turned Apple around.
Gosh, and I thought it was great products that turned Apple around. Seems they really only needed an exaggerated sense of their own importance.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:02 PM   #30
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I love French whine and cheese.
Yeah no kidding... this dude sounds arrogant.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:02 PM   #31
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Less arrogant?

So the opposite of some of the fanboys
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:05 PM   #32
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The French have won more wars than most countries have including the USA.


But go on make fun of the French.
What on earth do ancient military victories have to do with this article?
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:16 PM   #33
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The French? Pot calling kettle...

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The French have won more wars than most countries have including the USA.


But go on make fun of the French.
Apparently they missed two that mattered.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:17 PM   #34
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The French have won more wars than most countries have including the USA.


But go on make fun of the French.
Most of the ancient wars ended in stalemates
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:19 PM   #35
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Right and telecom corporations are the antithesis of arrogance?
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:20 PM   #36
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Especially when they existed in an era where war was quite common?
Great point.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:23 PM   #37
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So typical french behavior.. Re-reminded me why i never buy any of their products.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:23 PM   #38
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They are also a far older country, so one would think that after being around TEN TIMES as long as the United States, France would learn to get along with others more.
They came up with anew approach, surrender.....
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:24 PM   #39
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French talking about less arrogant. LMAO.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:31 PM   #40
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Is that the same as "less cutting edge" and "in the fast race toward mediocrity"?
I'm afraid it is. Disappointed to think that apple might be cow towing to carriers as a way to boost sales.
Aside from the retail potential they offer, all orange and the rest have to do is build network coverage and capacity - and they're universally poor at it. Experts at 'managed dissatisfaction'. Shame such greedy, lazy outfits think they should be calling the shots.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:31 PM   #41
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The French? Pot calling kettle...

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Apparently they missed two that mattered.
Sorry I'm late, which two wars do you mean?
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:31 PM   #42
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Company in becoming flexible in the face of increased competition shocker?
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:32 PM   #43
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I'm afraid it is. Disappointed to think that apple might be cow towing to carriers as a way to boost sales.
It's actually 'kowtowing'
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:35 PM   #44
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A shorter Stephane Richard: "The success of Android as a viable competitor is moving control back towards where it 'belongs': into the hands of telecom carriers."
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:35 PM   #45
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It's actually 'kowtowing'
noted. cheers
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:37 PM   #46
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Sometimes natural brilliance and the desire to TRULY better others, is mistaken for arrogance by the ignorant. RIP Steve, RIP.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:44 PM   #47
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Wait a minute.... there's a Windows phone?????
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:45 PM   #48
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The end is nigh?
Is that a pig I see in the sky?
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:50 PM   #49
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Flexibility means that they are allowing telecoms greater say. Exactly what we need, masters of access to information telling me how I can access said information (such as charging for tethering while not boosting the data cap at all, I paid for the data, it doesn't cost you a ****ing dime to allow me to use that data on another device).

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Old Feb 25, 2013, 06:55 PM   #50
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Cutting emotion out of it, IMO this can be construed in two ways - carriers cutting into some of Apple's margins to lessen their phone subsidy burdens; OR carriers going back to their old ways of foisting incompetent customizations on phone firmware.

Not owning AAPL; I personally don't care about the former. The latter would be a crazy reversion of half a decade of Steve's work.
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