Apple Now 'More Flexible', 'Less Arrogant' Reports France Telecom CEO - Page 2

SoGood · Feb 25, 2013, 05:39 PM

Not necessarily a good thing for Apple, to let conservative Telecom executive dictate via their old formulae.

.Asa · Feb 25, 2013, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordJohnWhorfin

And he knows something about becoming a little less arrogant, seeing all his customers flee to Free mobile. Orange is as despicable and evil as AT&T, I hope they choke on a ham sandwich and die.

I prefer salami

kyjaotkb · Feb 25, 2013, 05:47 PM

I think Orange knows lots about being arrogant, not being flexible at all and not giving a s*** about user complaints. Heck, they're the company that maintains a different cost per kilobyte for email and for 'regular' internet on their payg offer. They piss on net neutrality, charge their customers twice as much as competitors, have the ********* set top box in the Hexagon, crappy access to YouTube and dont allow you to use your phone as a modem or voip terminal without prohibitive additional charges.
No wonder their customer base is steadily reducing towards a fringe of 70+ year olds from the coyntryside who still believe that France Telecom has the monopoly on télécommunications.

So yeah they can talk...

IJ Reilly · 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3N16MA

So many CEOs are happy that they now have to meet with Tim instead of Steve. Steve probably made them feel like fools no matter what their status. Of course it was that arrogance that turned Apple around.

Gosh, and I thought it was great products that turned Apple around. Seems they really only needed an exaggerated sense of their own importance.

BC2009 · Feb 25, 2013, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feed Me

I love French whine and cheese.

Yeah no kidding... this dude sounds arrogant.

fel10 · Feb 25, 2013, 06:02 PM

Less arrogant?

So the opposite of some of the fanboys

BC2009 · Feb 25, 2013, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Radio

The French have won more wars than most countries have including the USA.

But go on make fun of the French.

What on earth do ancient military victories have to do with this article?

sinsin07 · Feb 25, 2013, 06:16 PM

The French? Pot calling kettle...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Radio

The French have won more wars than most countries have including the USA.

But go on make fun of the French.

Apparently they missed two that mattered.

alent1234 · Feb 25, 2013, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radio

The French have won more wars than most countries have including the USA.

But go on make fun of the French.

Most of the ancient wars ended in stalemates

RolyPolyBird · Feb 25, 2013, 06:19 PM

Right and telecom corporations are the antithesis of arrogance?

petrucci666 · Feb 25, 2013, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 3N16MA

Especially when they existed in an era where war was quite common?

Great point.

toughboy · Feb 25, 2013, 06:23 PM

So typical french behavior.. Re-reminded me why i never buy any of their products.

RedRaven571 · Feb 25, 2013, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaibelf

They are also a far older country, so one would think that after being around TEN TIMES as long as the United States, France would learn to get along with others more.

They came up with anew approach, surrender.....

Rogifan · Feb 25, 2013, 06:24 PM

French talking about less arrogant. LMAO.

glynhughes · Feb 25, 2013, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Potus

Is that the same as "less cutting edge" and "in the fast race toward mediocrity"?

I'm afraid it is. Disappointed to think that apple might be cow towing to carriers as a way to boost sales.
Aside from the retail potential they offer, all orange and the rest have to do is build network coverage and capacity - and they're universally poor at it. Experts at 'managed dissatisfaction'. Shame such greedy, lazy outfits think they should be calling the shots.

RobertMartens · Feb 25, 2013, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinsin07

The French? Pot calling kettle...

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Apparently they missed two that mattered.

Sorry I'm late, which two wars do you mean?

jaymzuk · Feb 25, 2013, 06:31 PM

Company in becoming flexible in the face of increased competition shocker?

RobertMartens · Feb 25, 2013, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glynhughes

I'm afraid it is. Disappointed to think that apple might be cow towing to carriers as a way to boost sales.

It's actually 'kowtowing'

macrumors12345 · Feb 25, 2013, 06:35 PM

A shorter Stephane Richard: "The success of Android as a viable competitor is moving control back towards where it 'belongs': into the hands of telecom carriers."

glynhughes · Feb 25, 2013, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertMartens

It's actually 'kowtowing'

noted. cheers

Stately · Feb 25, 2013, 06:37 PM

Sometimes natural brilliance and the desire to TRULY better others, is mistaken for arrogance by the ignorant. RIP Steve, RIP.

Popeye206 · Feb 25, 2013, 06:44 PM

Wait a minute.... there's a Windows phone?????

Lancer · Feb 25, 2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SSD-GUY

The end is nigh?

Is that a pig I see in the sky?

NT1440 · Feb 25, 2013, 06:50 PM

Flexibility means that they are allowing telecoms greater say. Exactly what we need, masters of access to information telling me how I can access said information (such as charging for tethering while not boosting the data cap at all, I paid for the data, it doesn't cost you a ****ing dime to allow me to use that data on another device).

mtneer · Feb 25, 2013, 06:55 PM

Cutting emotion out of it, IMO this can be construed in two ways - carriers cutting into some of Apple's margins to lessen their phone subsidy burdens; OR carriers going back to their old ways of foisting incompetent customizations on phone firmware.

Not owning AAPL; I personally don't care about the former. The latter would be a crazy reversion of half a decade of Steve's work.

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SoGood macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2003	Not necessarily a good thing for Apple, to let conservative Telecom executive dictate via their old formulae.
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kyjaotkb macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Paris, France	I think Orange knows lots about being arrogant, not being flexible at all and not giving a s* about user complaints. Heck, they're the company that maintains a different cost per kilobyte for email and for 'regular' internet on their payg offer. They piss on net neutrality, charge their customers twice as much as competitors, have the ******* set top box in the Hexagon, crappy access to YouTube and dont allow you to use your phone as a modem or voip terminal without prohibitive additional charges. No wonder their customer base is steadily reducing towards a fringe of 70+ year olds from the coyntryside who still believe that France Telecom has the monopoly on télécommunications. So yeah they can talk...
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Feb 25, 2013, 06:19 PM	#35
RolyPolyBird macrumors member Join Date: Aug 2010	Right and telecom corporations are the antithesis of arrogance?
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Feb 25, 2013, 06:31 PM	#42
jaymzuk macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2012	Company in becoming flexible in the face of increased competition shocker?
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Popeye206 macrumors 68020 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NE PA USA	Wait a minute.... there's a Windows phone?????
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NT1440 macrumors G3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hartford, CT	Flexibility means that they are allowing telecoms greater say. Exactly what we need, masters of access to information telling me how I can access said information (such as charging for tethering while not boosting the data cap at all, I paid for the data, it doesn't cost you a ****ing dime to allow me to use that data on another device).
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Feb 25, 2013, 06:55 PM	#50
mtneer macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2012	Cutting emotion out of it, IMO this can be construed in two ways - carriers cutting into some of Apple's margins to lessen their phone subsidy burdens; OR carriers going back to their old ways of foisting incompetent customizations on phone firmware. Not owning AAPL; I personally don't care about the former. The latter would be a crazy reversion of half a decade of Steve's work.
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