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Old Mar 5, 2013, 09:40 AM   #1
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Thieves Use Bear Spray in Robbery of Vancouver's Oakridge Centre Apple Store




As reported by The Vancouver Sun, three men discharged bear repellant during a robbery of Apple's Oakridge Centre retail store in Vancouver while the store was full of customers last night.

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Police say three men entered the store shortly before 7:00 PM last night while around 40 customers were in the store, discharging the spray and stealing "a small number of electronics [items]" before fleeing.

Five people were treated at the scene by paramedics for the effects of exposure to the spray. A police dog unit recovered some of the stolen items but the thieves have not yet been found.

It is not known whether there is a link to a robbery in January in the same city, where two men robbed a jewelry store at gunpoint before fleeing 'in a cloud of bear spray'.

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Old Mar 5, 2013, 09:46 AM   #2
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On the face of it, the scenario might seem absurd but I guess the crooks can't be charged with armed robbery if they're caught. As it stands, their gambit seems to have paid off.
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 09:52 AM   #3
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 09:54 AM   #4
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Bear spray?
This is Canada. Most people don't have guns and bear attacks are the real danger we face every day.

Just kidding. The real danger comes from some of our politicians.
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 09:59 AM   #5
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You'll get a lead sandwich if you attack me with bear spray, pending it's legal for me to carry at the location.
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 10:04 AM   #7
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Bear mace that guy!
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 10:05 AM   #8
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You'll get a lead sandwich if you attack me with bear spray, pending it's legal for me to carry at the location.
Go act hard somewhere else, you're not fooling anyone here.
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 10:08 AM   #9
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This is Canada. Most people don't have guns and bear attacks are the real danger we face every day.

Just kidding. The real danger comes from some of our politicians.
I live in Ontario. The most danger we face here are from pointed sticks. And they will most likely ban those here soon too!
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Go act hard somewhere else, you're not fooling anyone here.
I've defended myself before with force, so there is no reason why I can't again. Granted it was at home with less chance of hurting bystanders....
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 10:23 AM   #11
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I've defended myself before with force, so there is no reason why I can't again. Granted it was at home with less chance of hurting bystanders....
should have used your own strength and not a machine's strength.
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You'll get a lead sandwich if you attack me with bear spray, pending it's legal for me to carry at the location.
So after being blinded by bear spray you'd just take a gun out and start unloading?
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On the face of it, the scenario might seem absurd but I guess the crooks can't be charged with armed robbery if they're caught. As it stands, their gambit seems to have paid off.
Use of Bear Spray makes this a violent robbery, and as I understand it, puts it into the same category as if a gun had been used.
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This is Canada. Most people don't have guns and bear attacks are the real danger we face every day.

Just kidding. The real danger comes from some of our politicians.
Actually, we don't have guns... and I am more at risk of a bear attack here on the coast than being shot. Except by a hunter. One of the amazing things about Vancouver is that you can a city bus, for a regular fare, to one of several parks on the North Shore where you can hiking in the wilderness, get lost, and die. Or be attacked by a bear. Happens every year (the getting lost part and dying part, bear attacks are usually rare... mostly because people carry bear spray).
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You'll get a lead sandwich if you attack me with bear spray, pending it's legal for me to carry at the location.
It's not legal, and you'll get arrested. If you cause harm to the robber you may even get charged with assault, unless you can show you were actually in imminent danger of being injured or killed.

No one was hurt, some stuff was stolen. The police will probably catch these thieves because they appear to be developing a pattern.

A wise old cop once told me that anyone who isn't an idiot can rob a bank and get away with it... once. It's when you start repeating yourself that the cops catch you.
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A wise old cop once told me that anyone who isn't an idiot can rob a bank and get away with it... once. It's when you start repeating yourself that the cops catch you.
Well I better get a damn good heist that first time.

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So after being blinded by bear spray you'd just take a gun out and start unloading?
Of course not. That puts others at risk. That's a criminal act in Texas even if you have your license.

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should have used your own strength and not a machine's strength.
Nah. I'd rather be sure to end things.
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Well I better get a damn good heist that first time....
That's almost always the case. The thieves have an inflated vision how much they'll get, and then when the get away with it the first time (it seems) they go back for more.
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Nah. I'd rather be sure to end things.
It's just a pity that for every bad guy who gets killed by a gun, about 8 other innocent people are killed by friends and family member during an argument.

Oh, well I guess that is the price of freedom...
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Oh, well I guess that is the price of freedom...
Oh, you must have found Utopia...care to share with the rest of us.

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Oh, you must have found Utopia...care to share with the rest of us.

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It's easy enough to find, it's the immigration process that requires a quest. But it helps if you bilingual in English and French.

In my little corner of utopia it also helps if you know how to shear a sheep...
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I thought only skunks sprayed people and how did they get the bear into the store ?
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A bear sprayed 40 people at an Apple store?
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Old Mar 5, 2013, 11:37 AM   #22
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You'll get a lead sandwich if you attack me with bear spray, pending it's legal for me to carry at the location.

Yeah, I'm sure you'll be making loads of lead sandwiches (hold the mayo please) as your wriggling around on the floor temporarily blinded by the spray.
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I think we should ban bear spray

nobody hunts bears, it has no use other than for criminals to cause mayhem. It's not like anybody needs it.
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I think we should ban bear spray

nobody hunts bears, it has no use other than for criminals to cause mayhem. It's not like anybody needs it.


I guess you've never been to Minnesota, where there is a bear season for hunting.
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I guess you've never been to Minnesota, where there is a bear season for hunting.
Being able to hunt bears isn't worth robberies and people being sprayed with stuff intended for bears.
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