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Old Mar 8, 2013, 03:16 PM   #76
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God my 2nd gen MacBook use to do that as well, I hated it. Fans spinning up for no reason can drive a person nuts!
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 03:19 PM   #77
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Really makes me question what Apple has been doing with their notebooks lately. I'm typing this on a first generation Revision A MacBook Unibody from 2008 and the fans are sitting at 1760RPM with 7 applications running, one of which is rendering some audio right now. All of a sudden, a flagship MacBook from 2013 spools up the fans for no reason when playing lossless files in iTunes? That's kind of ridiculous. My machine is not without its faults (the screen has some pretty atrocious viewing angles and whatnot) but at least those faults were known before purchasing the machine and weren't things we as users are essentially beta testing for Apple.

I know I probably sound like the biggest hater out there right now, but Apple really needs to step it up. My experience when I had my retina 15" for a few weeks has seriously made me question their quality control (my retina had a squeaky case, a buzzing keyboard backlight, sleep issues, heating up when closed, and connectivity issues) and I returned it in spite of its speed and beauty. They can't rest on their laurels and it's really showing. As bad as it sounds, returning it and going back to my 2008 MacBook was almost freeing... I couldn't enjoy the retina purely because every time I picked it up, I felt like I'd find yet another ludicrous issue with it. At least my old workhorse was flawless, reliable and, though slow, something that wouldn't just decide not to wake from sleep or ramp up the fans for no reason... and it's a revision A product too.

TL;DR - I'll be seriously holding off my decisions on a Haswell MacBook until all the issues have been revealed. It's getting frustrating that Apple hasn't figured stuff like this out.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 03:32 PM   #78
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My 15" rMBP freezes several times a day with the same issue. Seems to be a graphics issue. I've tried reinstalling from scratch but nothing has worked. I contacted Apple after a couple months, but they wouldn't replace it. Then I wasted more time with an "high level" Apple customer support person. They had a tech look at my logs, and he pretty much agreed there was a graphics issue.

The customer service rep pretty much wasted my time and said they'd only repair the machine, same as the Apple store genius told me. This was probably 4 months ago, and it's frustrating, but I don't want to be without my computer for a few days, so I haven't taken it in yet. On top of that, my display has the "image retention" problem like a plasma display used to have.

It's pretty frustrating to spend all this money and get a bad machine and no help from Apple. I've probably had 20 Apple computers in my life, this has been the worst experience by far.
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God my 2nd gen MacBook use to do that as well, I hated it. Fans spinning up for no reason can drive a person nuts!
Are you even reading the OP? This is a specific issue regarding fan turn on due to SSD access when cool with the new brand/model of SSDs and neither of you have this specific issue.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 03:43 PM   #79
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Are you even reading the OP? This is a specific issue regarding fan turn on due to SSD access when cool with the new brand/model of SSDs and neither of you have this specific issue.
It was a front page story and I felt my rant was relevant to the rMBP having issues. You could have just skipped my post, no reason to complain.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 03:43 PM   #80
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And much as my inner fanboy hates to say it, but Samsung parts are always the best parts in Apple products.

Just look at the display even, and the SSD now.
No, the fanboyism against Samsung is specifically against Samsung Mobile.

Apple isn't competing against Samsung's refrigerators. It's just a complicated mess because Samsung has different subsidiaries while Apple is just....Apple. Samsung makes greats products, you just can't can't let phone-specific fanboyism get in the way.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 03:52 PM   #81
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Do the SMC reset!!!

I got my 2013 rMBP a couple weeks ago and when I was transferring over all of the data, the fans were blaring. I have a Sandisk 512 SSD and a Samsung display. The morning after all of the data was migrated, I did an SMC reset and I haven't had the issue since. I still get some fan noise when the vents are covered to some degree...which I think is normal. But no blaring issues like before. I'm sure there will be a software fix for this but this should be a temporary solution.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 03:56 PM   #82
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I thought this rev b rmbp should have no issues, not a good QC from apple.
Such is the mirage of "rev B", and the absurdity that rev A is necessarily issue-wrought because it's all-new. Every update is essentially all new from the previous... different parts from new vendors, new s/w, updated firmware in parts, etc. It's just as likely for a rev B, C, D to be buggy as a rev A.

Also, the nature of the fast moving electronics market these days is that we are all beta testers. Manufacturers simply don't have enough time to squash every bug. The annoying thing is that once these issues are known companies, like Apple, are slow to respond.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 04:05 PM   #83
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Just Keep reporting and wait for a fix.

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Old Mar 8, 2013, 04:21 PM   #84
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No, the fanboyism against Samsung is specifically against Samsung Mobile.

Apple isn't competing against Samsung's refrigerators. It's just a complicated mess because Samsung has different subsidiaries while Apple is just....Apple. Samsung makes greats products, you just can't can't let phone-specific fanboyism get in the way.
But from a business perspective, Apple did let itself become too dependent upon Samsung as a supplier. Cash is fungible, but profits from sales to Apple may well have gone into the development of the Galaxy SIII. Also, certainly it helped build up the vertical supply chain advantage that Samsung enjoys.

They make good products, but they aren't the only ones out there. Sandisk is a reputable manufacturer, and hopefully this firmware issue will get resolved. It isn't as if there have never been issues with Samsung products. AnandTech reported about its issues with the Samsung 840 SSD line last year.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6503/s...0-pro-failures
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 04:40 PM   #85
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Yup my rMBP does this. It's annoying.

For clarification my SSD model number is SD512E
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 04:42 PM   #86
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The guy needs to get his priorities straight. His first problem is he needs to reevaluate how much Coldplay is in his music library, the cooling fan is a distant problem in comparison.
Don't worry, I'm using Spotify. iTunes was only for the purpose of the test.

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I wonder if the upcoming release of OSX 10.8.3 will help resolve this problem?
No. I run the last build of OSX 10.8.3 and I still get the problem. We need a SMC update.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 04:43 PM   #87
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Let's see, he listens to Coldplay and garbage complextro electro house music from GoPro commercials - his computer is just angry and runs the fans in protest.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 04:43 PM   #88
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This happened to my daughter's 15" rMBP and a SMC reset took care of the behavior. In general when fans go nuts without provocation (Civ V I am looking at you!) that's a quick and easy thing to try.

For those who don't know how to do that here is the excerpt from the Apple Support directions on SMC reset:

Note: Portable computers that have a battery you should not remove on your own include MacBook Pro (Early 2009) and later, all models of MacBook Air, and MacBook (Late 2009).
  1. Shut down the computer.
  2. Plug in the MagSafe power adapter to a power source, connecting it to the Mac if its not already connected.
  3. On the built-in keyboard, press the (left side) Shift-Control-Option keys and the power button at the same time.
  4. Release all the keys and the power button at the same time.
  5. Press the power button to turn on the computer.
Note: The LED on the MagSafe power adapter may change states or temporarily turn off when you reset the SMC.
Of course, this is the first thing I did when I found out the problem. But it didn't help.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 05:22 PM   #89
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I have the June rMBP and I had that weird issue where graphics performance and fan speed would be all whacky until you did an SMC reset (which would only last about a week). I took it in and in two days had a new motherboard and never saw the issue again. I certainly hope those affected by this are treated as nicely by Apple support!

I wanted to add that this is absolutely the best laptop I've ever owned.

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Old Mar 8, 2013, 05:24 PM   #90
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Clearly, the problem here is that this guy listens to Coldplay.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 05:30 PM   #91
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And yet there was mass panic about an extremely rare case of uncased iPhone 4s dropping calls in areas with bad service if you press your fingers on a certain spot.

Apple would be way more careful about their Macs if the public actually cared. The iMac G5, for instance, was definitely nowhere near Apple quality.

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Clearly, the problem here is that this guy listens to Coldplay.
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Coldplay is one of the worst entities to be called a "band". Yeah, Justin Bieber is better, and that's saying something.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 05:34 PM   #92
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Waiting with buying?

Just wondering: does this mean it's better to wait with buying a new retina Macbook Pro?
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 05:42 PM   #93
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Just wondering: does this mean it's better to wait with buying a new retina Macbook Pro?
If it worries you I'd wait a week for the software patch. There is* no issue with the hardware, my SSD (and others who report the same) does not run hot or even warm/medium, it stays very cool.

e: *appears to be
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 05:44 PM   #94
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it seems like early adopters were actually better off in this case.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 05:53 PM   #95
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How the hell did anyone try to connect an SSD to a fan issue....??
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 06:03 PM   #97
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What program is he using to check fan speed and all the other temps?
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And yet there was mass panic about an
Coldplay is one of the worst entities to be called a "band". Yeah, Justin Bieber is better, and that's saying something.
Saying Bieber is better than anyone is definitely saying something.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 06:08 PM   #98
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And much as my inner fanboy hates to say it, but Samsung parts are always the best parts in Apple products.

Just look at the display even, and the SSD now.
can't deny it and won't deny it.
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Old Mar 8, 2013, 06:10 PM   #99
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I actually did have this problem with my first rMBP, I took it back because of the overactive fans and upgraded to the high end model while I was at it.

The fans in my second rMBP can never be heard, only when gaming or rendering a huge project.
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can't deny it and won't deny it.
Samsung's stand-alone SSDs also kick ass.

Samsung for performance, Intel for reliability. Don't settle for less.
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