Dreamweaver or GoLive?

tchorta · Oct 22, 2005, 09:44 PM

Hey all, I am relatively new to web design. I am trying to figure out what software I should purchase, I am planning on purchasing either Studio 8 or Adobe Creative Suite Premium. I have Studio MX 2004 (edu. version) and have been using it for about a year now and really like it. I however have much more experience with Adobe products but have never even seen GoLive running. So I dunno if it would even be worth looking at. Any thoughts would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance everyone.

homerjward · 09:59 PM

i prefer GoLive--the interface just seems so much better; more intuitive. also i have more experience with adobe cs than with mx suite. i dont know about the html dreamweaver produces but i have notices GoLive can produce some weird html, especially with font tags (around every few words sometimes)
edit (love the new edit): i dont do anything really advanced, and i dont use css or any other languages besides html, fwiw.

dornoforpyros · Oct 22, 2005, 09:58 PM

Dreamweaver!!

I feel very strongly about this as I've spent HOURS fixing up bad code golive has punched out. As homerjward said it likes to put font tags around everything.

ChicoWeb · Oct 22, 2005, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dornoforpyros

Dreamweaver!!

I feel very strongly about this as I've spent HOURS fixing up bad code golive has punched out. As homerjward said it likes to put font tags around everything.

Ford or Chevy?

I prefer DW, and DW8 is AMAZING. I teach a web design course and we will be using DW8 next semester so I'm getting used to it. The CSS is 10 times better than last version, and lots of bugs have been fixed.

Demon Hunter · Oct 22, 2005, 11:58 PM

I've worked with both, and since you're buying the whole package, I would suggest Studio 8. Adobe is much stronger with its graphics applications, but sometimes it feels like GoLive is just kind of thrown in there to compete with Macromedia. Studio 8 has Flash, etc.

mikemodena · Oct 23, 2005, 12:08 AM

In my opinion, and I've been doing this for awhile now, you're going to need Studio 8, and then Photoshop. If money is tight, don't buy both Suite packages, and then you can go with Dreamweaver. They both do the same things, but in different ways. If you get used to Dreamweaver, you'll be fine. You're definately going to need Flash because Flash is the web standard these days. Flash 8 is the best so far IMO.

littlejim · Oct 23, 2005, 06:59 AM

I've been using golive since version 2 (pre Adobe days) and have recently bought Studio 8 and am doing a project with DW8.

My opinion is that whilst DW8 doesn't mess with your code as much as GoLive, is faster and has some nice features (adding a design-time CSS is fantastic) ... it has many, many flaws and cannot be call 'AMAZING'.

GoLive integrates much better with the Finder and (obviously) with other Adobe packages (Smart Photoshop components are a real time saver). But Adobe have sort of abandoned GoLive which is a crying shame. It has remained stagnent for many years.

Best thing is to try both with the 30 day trials but also try the other packages - rapidweaver and BBEdit.

Roll on Golive/Dreamweaver merge I say.

Chacala_Nayarit · Oct 23, 2005, 07:13 PM

BBEdit claro que si!

If I had to make the chioce of WYSIWYG GUI, Dreamweaver.

tchorta · Oct 23, 2005, 08:10 PM

Hey thanks guys. I really appreciate the input, and have decided to go with Studio 8 for now then I'll upgrade my Adobe suite later this year and have both to play with

EricBrian · Oct 23, 2005, 08:23 PM

SubEthaEdit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chacala_Nayarit

If I had to make the chioce of WYSIWYG GUI, Dreamweaver.

I agree.

Sic · Oct 26, 2005, 04:49 AM

dreamweaver definitely. but i use code-only anyway. never used wysiwyg for websites!

Doozy · Oct 26, 2005, 10:44 AM

I prefer Dreamweaver, and looking into the future I see Adobe keeping Dreamweaver and abandoning GoLive. I first learned web design with GoLive, since it had an easier interface, and when I knew what I was doing I switched to Dreamweaver and never looked back.

Although, I will still do a site in GoLive from time to time if the client asks for it.

ipacmm · Oct 26, 2005, 11:42 AM

I use Dreamweaver for everything. It works great with Flash and all of the other Macromedia programs. I haven't used GoLive in a few year, but I would download the 30-day trial for both and see which one you like the best.

iGav · Oct 26, 2005, 01:36 PM

BBEdit.

tchorta · Oct 27, 2005, 09:17 PM

I just received my copy of Studio 8

and I love what I have seen so far! Thanks guys for all the friendly advice!

slooksterPSV · Oct 27, 2005, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tchorta

I just received my copy of Studio 8

and I love what I have seen so far! Thanks guys for all the friendly advice!

I'm glad you went with Dreamweaver. It's a lot more user friendly than GoLive. Then again last year that was our main WYSIWYG HTML Editor is Dreamweaver.

cplusd · Oct 29, 2005, 09:47 PM

Being a Flash Developer I get the luxury of getting the whole Studio update. Personally I like using Dreamweaver for XML, PHP and CSS (just using it as a glorified text editor). I like using BBEdit too but one feature I love in Dreamweaver is the reference palette.

EricBrian · Oct 29, 2005, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doozy

Although, I will still do a site in GoLive from time to time if the client asks for it.

Client asks for it? Really? I've never had a client ask that I build a site for them with them telling me what to use to create it. And, I've done quite a few sites.

Dane D. · Oct 29, 2005, 11:32 PM

Depends, if you have used any Adobe products than use GoLive. The interface is familiar. I use it, like it, and yes it does have have its quarks but, as with any software, the decision is a personal one. Macromedia software in IMO is confusing, but that is me.

slooksterPSV · Oct 29, 2005, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cplusd

Being a Flash Developer I get the luxury of getting the whole Studio update. Personally I like using Dreamweaver for XML, PHP and CSS (just using it as a glorified text editor). I like using BBEdit too but one feature I love in Dreamweaver is the reference palette.

You know you get the same effects with TextWrangler 2 (its free from http://www.barebones.com/ )

ChicoWeb · Oct 30, 2005, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricBrian

Client asks for it? Really? I've never had a client ask that I build a site for them with them telling me what to use to create it. And, I've done quite a few sites.

Lol, I was thinking the same thing. HTML is HTML, is it not?

radiantm3 · Oct 31, 2005, 03:50 AM

You BBEdit users should try Textmate (www.macromates.com). I went through most of the popular OS X text editors and ended up being happy with BBEdit. That is until I discovered Textmate. Lets just say I haven't touched BBedit since.

And I don't know how you guys can deal with dreamweaver on the mac. It's horribly slow and very bloated.

eXan · Oct 31, 2005, 04:52 AM

I prefer Dreamweaver. I have GoLive too, but I don't use it. I tried to make something with it, but I just have used to DW and cant use anything else.

BTW I have DW8 now

it rocks!

theappleguy · Nov 6, 2005, 07:34 PM

GoLive is my preference.

Oct 22, 2005, 09:44 PM	#1
tchorta macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wyoming	Dreamweaver or GoLive? Hey all, I am relatively new to web design. I am trying to figure out what software I should purchase, I am planning on purchasing either Studio 8 or Adobe Creative Suite Premium. I have Studio MX 2004 (edu. version) and have been using it for about a year now and really like it. I however have much more experience with Adobe products but have never even seen GoLive running. So I dunno if it would even be worth looking at. Any thoughts would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance everyone.
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Oct 22, 2005, 09:46 PM	#2
homerjward macrumors 68030 Join Date: May 2004 Location: fig tree	i prefer GoLive--the interface just seems so much better; more intuitive. also i have more experience with adobe cs than with mx suite. i dont know about the html dreamweaver produces but i have notices GoLive can produce some weird html, especially with font tags (around every few words sometimes) edit (love the new edit): i dont do anything really advanced, and i dont use css or any other languages besides html, fwiw. __________________ Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press. Last edited by homerjward; Oct 22, 2005 at 09:59 PM.
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Oct 22, 2005, 09:58 PM	#3
dornoforpyros macrumors 68040 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Calgary, AB	Dreamweaver!! I feel very strongly about this as I've spent HOURS fixing up bad code golive has punched out. As homerjward said it likes to put font tags around everything. __________________ www.JasonDorn.com \| this looked better on paper
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Oct 23, 2005, 06:59 AM	#7
littlejim macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bob Fossils Zooniverse	Try both with the 30 day preview I've been using golive since version 2 (pre Adobe days) and have recently bought Studio 8 and am doing a project with DW8. My opinion is that whilst DW8 doesn't mess with your code as much as GoLive, is faster and has some nice features (adding a design-time CSS is fantastic) ... it has many, many flaws and cannot be call 'AMAZING'. GoLive integrates much better with the Finder and (obviously) with other Adobe packages (Smart Photoshop components are a real time saver). But Adobe have sort of abandoned GoLive which is a crying shame. It has remained stagnent for many years. Best thing is to try both with the 30 day trials but also try the other packages - rapidweaver and BBEdit. Roll on Golive/Dreamweaver merge I say. __________________ Blue Pants, Blue Pants, I've got baby Blue Pants. The Mighty Boosh I Audioscrobble
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Oct 23, 2005, 08:10 PM	#9
tchorta Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wyoming	Thanks Hey thanks guys. I really appreciate the input, and have decided to go with Studio 8 for now then I'll upgrade my Adobe suite later this year and have both to play with
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Oct 22, 2005, 11:58 PM	#5
Demon Hunter macrumors 68020 Join Date: Mar 2004	I've worked with both, and since you're buying the whole package, I would suggest Studio 8. Adobe is much stronger with its graphics applications, but sometimes it feels like GoLive is just kind of thrown in there to compete with Macromedia. Studio 8 has Flash, etc.
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Oct 23, 2005, 12:08 AM	#6
mikemodena macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2005 Location: Connecticut	In my opinion, and I've been doing this for awhile now, you're going to need Studio 8, and then Photoshop. If money is tight, don't buy both Suite packages, and then you can go with Dreamweaver. They both do the same things, but in different ways. If you get used to Dreamweaver, you'll be fine. You're definately going to need Flash because Flash is the web standard these days. Flash 8 is the best so far IMO.
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Oct 23, 2005, 07:13 PM	#8
Chacala_Nayarit Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lakewood, Washington	BBEdit claro que si! If I had to make the chioce of WYSIWYG GUI, Dreamweaver.
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Oct 26, 2005, 04:49 AM	#11
Sic macrumors 6502 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southampton UK	dreamweaver definitely. but i use code-only anyway. never used wysiwyg for websites! __________________ blog?
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Oct 26, 2005, 10:44 AM	#12
Doozy macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2005	I prefer Dreamweaver, and looking into the future I see Adobe keeping Dreamweaver and abandoning GoLive. I first learned web design with GoLive, since it had an easier interface, and when I knew what I was doing I switched to Dreamweaver and never looked back. Although, I will still do a site in GoLive from time to time if the client asks for it. __________________ iPhoneusers.comiPhone Discussions
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Oct 26, 2005, 11:42 AM	#13
ipacmm macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	I use Dreamweaver for everything. It works great with Flash and all of the other Macromedia programs. I haven't used GoLive in a few year, but I would download the 30-day trial for both and see which one you like the best. __________________ [SIZE="1"]My Photography - ipacmm.com
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Oct 26, 2005, 01:36 PM	#14
iGav macrumors G3 Join Date: Mar 2002	BBEdit. __________________ Me.
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Oct 27, 2005, 09:17 PM	#15
tchorta Thread Starter macrumors newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wyoming	I just received my copy of Studio 8 and I love what I have seen so far! Thanks guys for all the friendly advice!
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Oct 29, 2005, 09:47 PM	#17
cplusd macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2005	Being a Flash Developer I get the luxury of getting the whole Studio update. Personally I like using Dreamweaver for XML, PHP and CSS (just using it as a glorified text editor). I like using BBEdit too but one feature I love in Dreamweaver is the reference palette.
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Oct 29, 2005, 11:32 PM	#19
Dane D. macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: ohio	Depends Depends, if you have used any Adobe products than use GoLive. The interface is familiar. I use it, like it, and yes it does have have its quarks but, as with any software, the decision is a personal one. Macromedia software in IMO is confusing, but that is me. __________________ B/WG3/1.1GHzRevB,OS9.2.2,OS10.4.6 iMacG3/600,OS9.2.2,OS10.2.8 eMacG4/USB2.0,OS10.4.11 MacBookPro 13",OS10.5.8
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Oct 31, 2005, 03:50 AM	#22
radiantm3 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Jose, CA	You BBEdit users should try Textmate (www.macromates.com). I went through most of the popular OS X text editors and ended up being happy with BBEdit. That is until I discovered Textmate. Lets just say I haven't touched BBedit since. And I don't know how you guys can deal with dreamweaver on the mac. It's horribly slow and very bloated.
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Oct 31, 2005, 04:52 AM	#23
eXan macrumors 601 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Near Korea, Japan and China.	I prefer Dreamweaver. I have GoLive too, but I don't use it. I tried to make something with it, but I just have used to DW and cant use anything else. BTW I have DW8 now it rocks! __________________ My WoW videos 21.5" iMac 2.5 GHz \| 4 GB \| 500 GB \| Radeon 6750 13" MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz \| 4 GB \| 250 GB \| GeForce 320m
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Nov 6, 2005, 07:34 PM	#24
theappleguy macrumors 6502 Join Date: Apr 2005	GoLive is my preference.
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