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Old Oct 29, 2005, 09:16 PM   #1
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Entourage vs thunderbird

I have been thinking of switching. Is thunderbird any good? Mail.app is out of the question because i am on 10.3 What are your guys thoughts.
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Old Oct 29, 2005, 09:40 PM   #2
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I use Entourage only because I use a combination of IMAP, POP and HTTP email accounts. As far as I know it is the only program that will let you do this. I like Thunderbird for its simplicity, but the integration of contacts, calendar and email in Entourage make it the app of choice for me.
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Old Oct 29, 2005, 09:43 PM   #3
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I haven't used those but I really like Opera's built-in mail. Very convenient.
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Old Oct 29, 2005, 10:36 PM   #4
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I really recommend Thunderbird.. makes a future transition to Windows or Linux totally painless too.

Opensource projects are great, give them a go
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I use it as my standard e-mail client for both my Gmail (POP) and Fastmail (IMAP) account. I have no particular need for advanced calendar or contact functions, so it works fine enough for me.
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I found Thunderbird to be rather slow, especially with a lot on email on an IMAP server. That was my biggest complaint. I stick with Mail as a result.
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I have been thinking of switching. Is thunderbird any good? Mail.app is out of the question because i am on 10.3 What are your guys thoughts.
Sorry, maybe I missed something, why can't you just use Mail? Why will this not work for you in 10.3?
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Old Oct 29, 2005, 11:39 PM   #8
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Opensource apps does have the added advantage that your data is always safe and accessible though..

Closed source solutions will essentially leave you out to dry when they go out of business, and support for that product ceases.

Anyway I kinda like Eudora on Windows, so how is it on the Mac?
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Old Oct 30, 2005, 12:05 AM   #9
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I use Mail.app which is serviceable but kind of flaky. The Address Book integration is just too useful and for that reason alone I won't really consider migrating to Thunderbird.

I've been stuck by opensource projects which have died just as often as I've been stuck by closed source projects which have died. I don't think that's really a fair assessment of reality.
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Old Oct 30, 2005, 02:30 AM   #10
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the only two good reason to use entourage. the fact that it can work with hotmail and exchange right out of the box. although, if you need the calender, notes,etc from entourage those are handy.
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Old Oct 30, 2005, 03:58 AM   #11
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Thunderbird is quite good, but I've noticed it's become a bit slow lately in switching between accounts in the sidebar. I just installed the latest beta and it's speedy again.
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the only two good reason to use entourage. the fact that it can work with hotmail and exchange right out of the box. although, if you need the calender, notes,etc from entourage those are handy.
The funny thing is I can't get entourage to work with our office's exchange for the life of me. Our support can't figure it out either.
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The funny thing is I can't get entourage to work with our office's exchange for the life of me. Our support can't figure it out either.
I agree with superbovine and you. Even at that, before my firm "upgraded" to Exchange 2003, Apple Mail actually worked better than Entourage on Exchange. Compared to my firm's earlier implementation of Exchange, its current Exchange 2003 implementation is at once less compatible with Entourage and totally incompatible with Mail.
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The funny thing is I can't get entourage to work with our office's exchange for the life of me. Our support can't figure it out either.
Maybe try VPN?
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I use Entourage only because I use a combination of IMAP, POP and HTTP email accounts. As far as I know it is the only program that will let you do this. I like Thunderbird for its simplicity, but the integration of contacts, calendar and email in Entourage make it the app of choice for me.
Thunderbird can do IMAP and POP, and there's probably an extension for HTTP.
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Sorry, maybe I missed something, why can't you just use Mail? Why will this not work for you in 10.3?
10.3 mail just does not have what i need out of a email app. Mail 2 for 10.4 is much better.
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10.3 mail just does not have what i need out of a email app. Mail 2 for 10.4 is much better.
Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification... I use Mail in 10.3.9 and it suits all my needs, but hey, everyone is different, which is cool.
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I agree with superbovine and you. Even at that, before my firm "upgraded" to Exchange 2003, Apple Mail actually worked better than Entourage on Exchange. Compared to my firm's earlier implementation of Exchange, its current Exchange 2003 implementation is at once less compatible with Entourage and totally incompatible with Mail.

i have to checkout what you said about entourage on exchange 2003 now...hmmm
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