http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/19/xbox-one-drm-used-games-reversal/
If it is true, this is good news. Xbox One80.
If it is true, this is good news. Xbox One80.
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Microsoft reverses Xbox One DRM
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Wow. That's huge if true. Not just in terms of next gen competition but in a company the size of MS responding to customer outrage over a 'core' portion of a product.
Great news for gamers everywhere - too much permanent damage has been done for me already - I'm happy about this change, but know Microsoft's heart and real desire for the future of gaming is different from mine.
Very happy though ...
Very happy though ...
Not recently that I know of. There is always a first for everything I guess and this might just be it.
Tis true. All the text since their site is loading slow at the moment.
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update
This is really good. It goes to show how badly MS's pre sales were when a stubborn company like MS actually caves this quick. It means other publishers and game makers will be taking note and realizing how much a failure it will be if they try these measures.
This is good whether you are a playstation or xbox fanboy. Though maybe not so good for Sony that could have used having that good of a success (even if it was because of such failure attitude from the competition).
Typical Microsoft - always out of touch with what modern consumers want. Just look at their lack of W8 coverage, lack of surface sales, and now this backtracking. They really need to fire their market research department.
Good news for everyone involved! We will all benefit from Sony and MS being strong competitors.
It's kind of embarrassing for them though, to have to backtrack like that. The only thing missing from a complete and utter loss of face would have been a new $399 price tag.
It's kind of embarrassing for them though, to have to backtrack like that. The only thing missing from a complete and utter loss of face would have been a new $399 price tag.
looks to be pretty chilly in hell now ... one could even say freezing...
chalk this victory up for the customers though .. i suspect the pre order numbers for the ps4 were talking a loud and clear message that was even heard in Redmond
though after this fiasco Don Mattrick will very likely be leaving his post rather sooner than later "to re-align his work life balance" or whatever the 'official' wording will be when getting reassigned to the Microsoft Siberia Research & Development Group
the question will be if they can get back the trust of their customers back fast enough. A lot of gamers turned away from them. Sure a big amount will turn back but 100% ?
Within _10 days_ Microsoft did a 180° and turned they strategy around completely. They could easily do that again once the console is released... i can hear the argument "they did it before" already now
the'll now have to rework their online system architecture, the console operating system, game developers will have to change their code etc.
chalk this victory up for the customers though .. i suspect the pre order numbers for the ps4 were talking a loud and clear message that was even heard in Redmond
though after this fiasco Don Mattrick will very likely be leaving his post rather sooner than later "to re-align his work life balance" or whatever the 'official' wording will be when getting reassigned to the Microsoft Siberia Research & Development Group
the question will be if they can get back the trust of their customers back fast enough. A lot of gamers turned away from them. Sure a big amount will turn back but 100% ?
Within _10 days_ Microsoft did a 180° and turned they strategy around completely. They could easily do that again once the console is released... i can hear the argument "they did it before" already now
the'll now have to rework their online system architecture, the console operating system, game developers will have to change their code etc.
They could, but they'd kill the Xbox One in the process. They need strong quarter to quarter sales during the life of the console so it's not like they can rope people in, then after the first year or two, switch gears again. The moment they go back to 'Plan A' sales will tank, the PS4 will 'win', and it will just be Nintendo and Sony going forward as MS will have lost all consumer trust.
I guess those pre-orders were more than a little shocking for them to ignore. The consumer wins.
Now we have a proper next gen battle again !!
Now we have a proper next gen battle again !!
So no DRM but if you buy the disc you must use the disc to play the game. One step forward, two steps back.
I liked the concept of no difference between downloading and buying a disc in a store. What I had hoped is MS would figure out some way to attach a UDID or something to each disc and therefore you could have a reseller deactivate that game or something if you sell the disc. You could also create a marketplace to sell the license to that software through Microsoft if you bought a download.
This is what I wish Apple could achieve so we could sell used music, TV shows and movies. It's possible. It would just take a lot of negotiation with studios and software development.
I liked the concept of no difference between downloading and buying a disc in a store. What I had hoped is MS would figure out some way to attach a UDID or something to each disc and therefore you could have a reseller deactivate that game or something if you sell the disc. You could also create a marketplace to sell the license to that software through Microsoft if you bought a download.
This is what I wish Apple could achieve so we could sell used music, TV shows and movies. It's possible. It would just take a lot of negotiation with studios and software development.
MS backpeddling like this now makes this a race again. Only time will tell if the damage already done can be reversed but I'm happy they took there foot out of there mouth.
Still that issue of price and the camera thing but oh well..
Bless
Still that issue of price and the camera thing but oh well..
Bless
Yeah it's $499 but that includes kinect 2, pS4 with the new PSEye is actually $469 so there actually isn't a huge difference and remember you'll need the camera to make use of the motion tracking stuff in te bundled dual shock 4
What's so bad about that? This is how it should be with a physical copy. You don't play the game off the disc. So, you don't have to deal with disc loading and seeking. The disc is there just to verify the game is real.
Short of new legislation, the studios would never yield. They have longed to see the second hand market die.
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For me personally, I've yet to see a game that requires the Kinect/PSEye that is of interest to me. I think the Kinect technology is very cool, but I just don't see it as being something I'd want to use on a regular basis. Also it creeps me out to have a camera/mic running in my house.
Especially given some of the channels available through cable TV ? I wonder if it will offer achievements for nookie on the sofa
Got to go for gold!
Especially given some of the channels available through cable TV ? I wonder if it will offer achievements for nookie on the sofa
Haha... "Kinects post make-out determination........ she's not into you. Retry/Quit?"
Doesn't matter as far as I'm concerned. The damage has been done. They're morons for thinking consumers would have initially been ok with the DRM and whatnot. The extra $100 doesn't exactly help either (I couldn't care less about kinect). It's still either a PS4, Wii U or PC for me.
The Classic Videogame Collectors applaud.
The discs are always playable games, not just install discs...
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Interesting article that says MS did it for the money, not the Gaming Community...
http://www.ign.com/blogs/falcon-x32/2013/06/19/microsft-and-their-lack-of-integrity/
The discs are always playable games, not just install discs...
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Interesting article that says MS did it for the money, not the Gaming Community...
http://www.ign.com/blogs/falcon-x32/2013/06/19/microsft-and-their-lack-of-integrity/
Interesting article that says MS did it for the money, not the Gaming Community...
http://www.ign.com/blogs/falcon-x32/2013/06/19/microsft-and-their-lack-of-integrity/
They're a company. Of course they did it for the money. They aren't running a gaming charity.
I would've been okay with it
Would've led to cheaper games 2 years from now.
Instead we get fixed $60-70 prices for the next 7 years