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ggarnold

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Sep 26, 2012
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Lots of changes in the Music app and thought it could use it's own thread. Anyone else disappointed with some of the changes so far?

The Bad (and missing)
- Removed ability to change song ratings (are you kidding?!)
- iTunes Match: Cannot download all songs in playlist (only 1x1)
- iTunes Match: Missing artists - All songs are there but some artists are missing. Anyone else experiencing this? Yes, I have played with the "group by" setting.
- Text links instead of buttons (so/so on this, but worth mentioning)

The Good
- iTunes Radio: Very cool, still need to experiment more
- Cleaner look, like all of iOS 7
- Album, track and album icons
- Controls on lock screen (way better than double-tap to me!)

The key problem for me is the removal of the song ratings. Most of my playlists are driven by ratings, and iOS 6 (and prior) the ratings could be updated on my mobile device. Now i've got to remember which songs I liked and update iTunes afterwards.

Anyone else share this frustration? Thoughts on new features etc?
 

AlanShutko

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Jun 2, 2008
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Is this beta2 or beta1? On a cursory look many problems are fixed in beta 2. For the others file bug reports
 

Armen

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I dig the lock screen controls being active as long as a song is playing. As far as ratings go I never did use that to organize my music but I do feel your pain.
 

ggarnold

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Sep 26, 2012
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Is this beta2 or beta1? On a cursory look many problems are fixed in beta 2. For the others file bug reports

Song rating capabilities are unavailable in both Beta 1 and Beta 2. Same with the missing ability to download all songs in a playlist when using iTunes Match.

The Beta 2 "Bug Fixes & Changes" thread had some other Music app complaints. Seems like Apple has made a lot of changes here.
 

tremlock

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Jun 16, 2008
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The Land of Cleves
iTunes Radio. Now with ads.
 

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KeanosMagicHat

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May 18, 2012
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This is new too . . .

Screenshot borrowed from photogpab on another thread.

i1flux.jpg


Music App has been updated - the artists default photo used to be a random album cover from within your collection. Now it looks like its an iTunes default profile picture. Much nicer . . .
 
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darkfiber

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Jul 13, 2008
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I saw someone mention that they either weren't able to delete an entire album or an entire artist (I can't remember which they said) like you can in iOS 6. Is that true?
 

ggarnold

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Sep 26, 2012
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Who uses this? Why would you want to purchase a song and rate it 1 star?

Thank God it's gone.

How many songs do you have in your library? At some point you've got to organize/group/etc. The "smart playlist" features of iTunes are surprisingly powerful. For me, grouping by "All 5 Stars" or "3+ Punk" etc is very helpful.

Also, could be that i'm old school by the fact that I tend to purchase full albums (if the "hit" song is good, maybe the album has some other gems). ;)

The on-the-fly star ratings are extremely useful for someone that uses the smart playlists. It has been supported since Day One, so i'm surprised they have dropped it. And it is/was unobtrusive for those that don't use ratings.
 

BigMar89

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Jun 15, 2013
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i like that we no longer have to double tap the home button to get music controls on the locks screen BUT they need to leave the clock on the status bar at least
 

Nickpocalypse

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Aug 28, 2011
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Seems like I'm still unable to shuffle all songs of an artist, I think it's a huge gap in functionality that we had in iOS 6

EDIT: To clarify, I have an artist with 2 albums, and I'm unable to shuffle both albums together, which I was able to do in iOS 6. Does anyone know if there is a way to do this?

When Shuffle All (Bold) is on, it just shuffles the current album. When off (Shuffle, not bold) the album plays in order.
 

Night Spring

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Jul 17, 2008
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- Text links instead of buttons (so/so on this, but worth mentioning)

I find those text links very confusing. Like, I tap Shuffle, and the text changes to Shuffle All. I'm like, "uh, is it shuffling or not?" Same with Repeat. seeing the text Repeat All makes me feel like I have to tap that to make it repeat.

I mean, what was wrong with the icons? They took up less space, and it was much easier to tell if they were on or off.
 

nishimura

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Jun 24, 2013
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Who uses this? Why would you want to purchase a song and rate it 1 star?

Thank God it's gone.

I used to use it to favorite songs.

Seems like I'm still unable to shuffle all songs of an artist, I think it's a huge gap in functionality that we had in iOS 6

EDIT: To clarify, I have an artist with 2 albums, and I'm unable to shuffle both albums together, which I was able to do in iOS 6. Does anyone know if there is a way to do this?

When Shuffle All (Bold) is on, it just shuffles the current album. When off (Shuffle, not bold) the album plays in order.

Why is it that when a song is selected from the search, it doesn't go to that song? It just opens up the music app.
 

paulmadejong

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Aug 7, 2012
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Netherlands
If you play a song from a playlist, you can click on the 'list' view (upper right corner) to list all songs on the same album. In iOS 7 you have the additional ability to see the song in the current playlist from this list view. However, if you click a song in this list/playlist view, it starts playing a different song from the same playlist :rolleyes:
 

Gjwilly

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May 1, 2011
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Seems like I'm still unable to shuffle all songs of an artist, I think it's a huge gap in functionality that we had in iOS 6

EDIT: To clarify, I have an artist with 2 albums, and I'm unable to shuffle both albums together, which I was able to do in iOS 6. Does anyone know if there is a way to do this?

When Shuffle All (Bold) is on, it just shuffles the current album. When off (Shuffle, not bold) the album plays in order.

I don't know about manually but when I told Siri to play a certain artist is did shuffle all of their albums.
 

joshforman

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Aug 11, 2012
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Who uses this? Why would you want to purchase a song and rate it 1 star?

Thank God it's gone.

Jeez..

You can rate things something other than one star; you have 5 options (or 10 depending on where you are). Also, you might buy an album that has songs you don't like.

Also, the ratings can mean whatever you want. 1 = good.....3 = awesome.....5 =holy crap!!!
 

hazuki

macrumors regular
May 17, 2013
107
1
Bali
one thing i don't like is the white UI
the black UI is better

can anyone post a screenshot with lyrics showing on now playing?
i'll appreciate it
 

frayne182

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Oct 1, 2012
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Canada
I really hate how they removed the rating system, but its still available in iTunes. I use ratings to make new playlists lol.

Oh well its Beta. I'll see that they add down the road.
 
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