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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:03 PM   #1
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JetBlue and American Airlines Giving iPad Electronic Flight Bags to All Pilots




Both JetBlue and American Airlines have announced they are issuing iPads to all pilots to replace the heavy paper manuals in flight phases.

American says it is the first major commercial carrier to deploy Electronic Flight Bags (EFB) throughout their entire fleet, and the airline has decided to discontinue paper revisions of pilot flight manuals.

The airline estimates it will save more than 400,000 gallons of fuel per year, worth $1.2 million at current prices.

JetBlue announced today that it has also received FAA approval to issue iPads to its pilots, with some added capabilities that are unique to the airline. Because JetBlue is introducing in-flight Wi-Fi across all its aircraft, its pilots will be able to receive real-time weather and document updates in-flight.
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Following a successful trial phase with approximately 60 pilots over several months, JetBlue already has begun giving all 2,500 pilots a fourth-generation 16 GB Wi-Fi capable Apple iPad. While JetBlue has been approved for a decade to use a PC-based laptop in the cockpit - called an Electronic Flight Bag (EFB) - the iPads will offer new capabilities and conveniences, especially as JetBlue implements Ka-Band satellite Wi-Fi.
JetBlue pilots will use WSI Optima for weather updates, Comply365 for digital documents, and a third app for aircraft performance, weight and balance calculations. JetBlue will roll out its electronic flight bags over the next three months.

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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:09 PM   #2
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And yet I still have to turn my Kindle off when ascending/decending.
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:12 PM   #3
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Should have done that years ago... my buddy who flies uses his iPad all the time for the past 3 years when flying his lil jet from Texas to Florida. Forget which app he got, but he says... this is a must for pilots.

Coolest thing is - how much gas it actually will save over an accruing amount of time.
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:12 PM   #4
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:13 PM   #5
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Ha, at first, I read the title as "JetBlue and American Airlines Giving iPad Electronic Flight Bags to All Passengers" and I was like "HOLY $417"!
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:16 PM   #6
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Ah so this is why the stock is down today when the market overall is up.
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:20 PM   #7
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Ah so this is why the stock is down today when the market overall is up.
Yes because another indication of total domination of a market that will someday be larger than smartphones and similar in size to PC (with much more shorter lifecycles on the products) is meaningless Because such domination clearly is not going to result in any increases in income.
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:27 PM   #8
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Ah so this is why the stock is down today when the market overall is up.
Personally... I think investors are driving it down on purpose so they can buy low and rake in again in the fall. Sad and frustrating.
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:33 PM   #9
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Makes sense. What happens if the iPad fails in flight though?
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:35 PM   #10
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help help is their an Apple Genius on board?

the Captain spilled Coffee on his iPad!!!
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:36 PM   #11
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JetBlue

They don't fly to my airport in Manchester, NH (yet) but JetBlue sent an Airbus here a few weeks ago from JFK and then back again after an hour. The reason? To test the iPad EFB. Curiously, Southwest Airlines on that same day at that same time was having a '15-year anniversary' celebration here, and I'm sure the sight of a JetBlue A320 just dropping in pleased them to no end.
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:43 PM   #12
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They don't fly to my airport in Manchester, NH (yet) but JetBlue sent an Airbus here a few weeks ago from JFK and then back again after an hour. The reason? To test the iPad EFB. Curiously, Southwest Airlines on that same day at that same time was having a '15-year anniversary' celebration here, and I'm sure the sight of a JetBlue A320 just dropping in pleased them to no end.
Oh please not the Airbus Boing argument! We all know that Airbus rules ok.
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Makes sense. What happens if the iPad fails in flight though?
been using iPad since it was released and it never failed me.
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:52 PM   #14
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KLM also announced it will begin issuing 5000 iPads to pilots and pursers.

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The iPad enables staff to offer passengers even more personal service and can, for instance, be used to update them more quickly on last-minute operational changes.

The decision comes as the FAA confirmed it will revaluate the use of personal electronic devices, including the iPad on flights in the United States.
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 02:55 PM   #15
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Makes sense. What happens if the iPad fails in flight though?
I wonder if there will be two per flight... If not, I'm sure they could borrow one from someone in the cabin
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Should have done that years ago... my buddy who flies uses his iPad all the time for the past 3 years when flying his lil jet from Texas to Florida. Forget which app he got, but he says... this is a must for pilots.

Coolest thing is - how much gas it actually will save over an accruing amount of time.
Not everybody agrees, apparently. There's general aviation pilot raging away on the Apple discussion forums about how his iPad supposedly overheated while he was in a landing pattern. He claims the iPad is a danger to all pilots and passengers. His point apparently is that small planes don't generally have air-conditioned cockpits and that it gets real hot sometimes. I'm not a pilot so I'm not competent to comment on that claim. What about it?
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One step closer to doing away with the asinine "10,000 feet" rule.
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I would worry more about the lithium battery in it than overheating. They r prob rated.
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 03:10 PM   #19
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Makes sense. What happens if the iPad fails in flight though?
My guess is they will have at least two iPads on every flight (pilot, co-pilot, and maybe a spare). The chances of multiple iPads failing in flight is extremely slim except in the case of something like an EMP attack. If an EMP attack happened, though, I'd have to think that there would be plenty of other avionic-related electronics on the airplane failing, as well.
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Ah so this is why the stock is down today when the market overall is up.
In related news, analysts believe Apple's iPhone shipments to be down 10% year-over-year in Western Europe.

How would you interpret both news side by side?
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And yet I still have to turn my Kindle off when ascending/decending.
See? We always knew that was complete and total garbage!
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Old Jun 26, 2013, 03:34 PM   #22
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wow, great decision. less mess and time wastage
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Makes sense. What happens if the iPad fails in flight though?
Previously, they did have to bring their chart bag with them. I'd be happier if they still brought at least the approach charts for the destination and alternates.
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Oh please not the Airbus Boing argument! We all know that Airbus rules ok.
Airbus owns the treetops and the Atlantic.
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And yet I still have to turn my Kindle off when ascending/decending.
The Kindle has not been certified in-flight by the FAA now, has it?



iPad too big for a small planes, I use a Nexus 7...
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