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Old Jun 27, 2013, 08:02 PM   #1
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Hey guys, last day to return my macbook air within the 14 day period is tomorrow. Question: right now, when I run activity monitor with programs I normally use, it says I have about 500-600mb remaining. Is that adequate if say I were to open more tabs in chrome or more preview files or more word documents? Also, with Maverick coming out soon, will I need the extra ram? Thanks!
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Old Jun 27, 2013, 08:26 PM   #2
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Without a doubt get the 8GB, you'll regret it if you don't
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Old Jun 27, 2013, 10:06 PM   #3
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I hate these "4GB or 8GB" threads more and more each time. And the reason why is..I'm scared that I'm going to regret staying with the 4GB model. If I could I'd go with 8GBs to be safe but Best Buy doesn't carry it. I do have the option of getting the 13" rMBP but I'm really liking the air.
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Old Jun 27, 2013, 10:24 PM   #4
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i hate these "4gb or 8gb" threads more and more each time. And the reason why is..i'm scared that i'm going to regret staying with the 4gb model. If i could i'd go with 8gbs to be safe but best buy doesn't carry it. I do have the option of getting the 13" rmbp but i'm really liking the air.
Yep

With that, 8GB is a minimum in my world, regardless of use.

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Old Jun 27, 2013, 10:28 PM   #5
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There's no excuse for that little RAM except trying to frustrate ignorant buyers into upgrading sooner.

Same with the 5400rpm drives, == Apple marketing conspiracy.
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Old Jun 27, 2013, 10:46 PM   #6
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There is no reason to not get 8gb since you can't upgrade later on.
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 01:31 AM   #7
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I just upgraded my 2012 MacBook Air with i5 and 4gb to the new 2013 with i7 and 8gb.

To tell the truth, the GENERAL performance is almost the same.

Multiple tabs, mail, skype, spotify, and videos worked perfectly on my 2012 4gb model. Final Cut Pro X and PS worked flawlessly as well.

I wouldn't bother for multiple tabs, and word documents. Those are not demanding tasks. Besides, if Mavericks needed at least 8gb to work properly, Apple would be in trouble.
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 02:44 AM   #8
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I just upgraded my 2012 MacBook Air with i5 and 4gb to the new 2013 with i7 and 8gb.

To tell the truth, the GENERAL performance is almost the same.

Multiple tabs, mail, skype, spotify, and videos worked perfectly on my 2012 4gb model. Final Cut Pro X and PS worked flawlessly as well.

I wouldn't bother for multiple tabs, and word documents. Those are not demanding tasks. Besides, if Mavericks needed at least 8gb to work properly, Apple would be in trouble.
What is your recommendation for OP? Upgrade to 8GB or stick with 4GB?
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 02:51 AM   #9
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I replaced my 2012 i7/8/256 with 2013 i5/4/256.
To be honest,I don't see any difference.
Running OSX 10.9 DP2.

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Old Jun 28, 2013, 03:08 AM   #10
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Hey guys, last day to return my macbook air within the 14 day period is tomorrow. Question: right now, when I run activity monitor with programs I normally use, it says I have about 500-600mb remaining. Is that adequate if say I were to open more tabs in chrome or more preview files or more word documents? Also, with Maverick coming out soon, will I need the extra ram? Thanks!
4 GB is working fine for me.
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 03:16 AM   #11
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I think it largely depends on how long you intend to hold onto the hardware. 4GB should be plenty enough for now, though in 3-4 years it might not be. (Eg. A lot of people only upgrade their computers every 5 years or so)
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 03:43 AM   #12
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What is your recommendation for OP? Upgrade to 8GB or stick with 4GB?
clearly his recommendation is to stick with 4GB.
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 05:59 AM   #13
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clearly his recommendation is to stick with 4GB.
Oh is it...thanks for clearing that up for him

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Old Jun 28, 2013, 07:32 AM   #14
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I think you can start by looking at your current usage. Also, battery life could be impacted by having more RAM. Lastly, tech specs have hit a wall in the computer industry so I think in the future you'll start seeing software that is more efficient with limited resources.

Specs are not getting bigger and faster. They are getting smaller and more efficient.
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 07:37 AM   #15
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I hate these "4GB or 8GB" threads more and more each time. And the reason why is..I'm scared that I'm going to regret staying with the 4GB model. If I could I'd go with 8GBs to be safe but Best Buy doesn't carry it. I do have the option of getting the 13" rMBP but I'm really liking the air.
Indeed... But until the day Apple offers only one RAM option, we are doomed to read them.

Unless... MR has a rule that if you talk about this you're banned
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 08:12 AM   #16
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Oh is it...thanks for clearing that up for him
seems like you're being a bit sarcastic, but you're welcome

let's see - he just upgraded to 8g and "the GENERAL performance is almost the same"

so he said he "wouldn't bother for multiple tabs, and word documents"

which to me sounds like he's saying 4g is good enough.
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 08:20 AM   #17
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seems like you're being a bit sarcastic, but you're welcome
Tried to.. But in hindsight i have to consider it a fail due to 2 days of insomnia (and counting)

On a sidenote: These 4GB/8GB - i5/i7 - LG/SS display - Batterylife threads are getting really..um, amusing
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 08:50 AM   #18
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Tried to.. But in hindsight i have to consider it a fail due to 2 days of insomnia (and counting)

On a sidenote: These 4GB/8GB - i5/i7 - LG/SS display - Batterylife threads are getting really..um, amusing
Let's just resurrect this thread in a few years and change the 4s to 8s and 8s to 16s. It will save time and all of the advice will be exactly the same.
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 10:23 AM   #19
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The only real difference most users will experience is in read/write delay using swap. If you wish to reduce wear and tear on your drive and slightly improve performance when swap is necessary, go with 8GB. Otherwise, 4GB is fine if you accept the slight delays during heavy RAM usage while your system uses swap and the fact that those read/writes place wear on your SSD.
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Old Jun 28, 2013, 12:47 PM   #20
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Let's just resurrect this thread in a few years and change the 4s to 8s and 8s to 16s. It will save time and all of the advice will be exactly the same.
A few years ago it was worse when we only had 1 and were trying to figure out if we should go to 2 or 4!

The big difference is that now the RAM is soldered on.

Personally, I'm probably just going to stick with 4. I know I've kept going back and forth on it. But based on my projected usage, 4 is going to be plenty (my desktop at home only has 3). Also, while the Air will be my primary machine, it won't be my only machine.

Plus with all of the improvements Apple is making to their computers & OS X, the average user won't notice much of a difference. OS X has always been good at making do with RAM and it's only getting better. And, in my opinion, Apple doesn't sell computers with inadequate RAM for average use: meaning that for web browsing, music, movies, documents & light gaming, the base RAM is sufficient. "Power-users" (VM, Audio/Video Production, Graphics) would likely upgrade from the base RAM.
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How many can confirm the performance of 4GB's? Does it lag or hang after owning it for more than a year?
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How many can confirm the performance of 4GB's? Does it lag or hang after owning it for more than a year?
It's probably not the time so much as the demands of a new OS or specific software. That is my understanding anyway.
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It's probably not the time so much as the demands of a new OS or specific software. That is my understanding anyway.
Yes, but those demands can increase in successive versions.
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Yes, but those demands can increase in successive versions.
OS X Mavericks is introducing technology that actually reduces the need for more RAM, so I don't know that that axiom will prove true any longer. Early reports in this from Mavericks users are favorable.
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