Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:21 AM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Apple in Talks with Korea's SK Telecom for iPhone Supporting Faster LTE-Advanced Networks




The Korea Times reports (via Engadget) that Apple and South Korean carrier SK Telecom are in talks regarding a future iPhone that would support faster LTE-Advanced (LTE-A) data networks. Just last week, the carrier announced the launch of the world's first publicly accessible LTE-A network.
Quote:
"SK Telecom is approaching Apple to put our LTE-A technology on the upcoming iPhone 5S. We are in the middle of negotiations," said an SK Telecom executive, requesting anonymity. [...]

Because Korea has recently seen a huge demand for devices supporting high-speed networks, Apple intends to use Korea as the litmus test to gauge the marketability of LTE-A technology before making inroads into China, according to industry sources.
LTE-A supports a theoretical maximum download speed of 150 Mbps, twice as fast as the LTE standard used on the iPhone 5, although real-world speeds are in general significantly slower than theoretical maximums.

The report suggests that Apple could release an LTE-A iPhone "in the coming months" on the iPhone 5S, but it seems fairly unlikely that Apple would be prepared to support the standard so soon after beginning negotiations with SK Telecom, even if the company has already been working on the technology.

Article Link: Apple in Talks with Korea's SK Telecom for iPhone Supporting Faster LTE-Advanced Networks
MacRumors is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:23 AM   #2
tann
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Nottingham, England
The UK hasn't even really got LTE yet.
__________________
2013 13" MacBook Air i5/8GB/256GB || Silver 64GB iPhone 6 || 32GB Cellular Silver iPad rMini!
Follow me on Twitter!
tann is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:26 AM   #3
nick_elt
macrumors 68000
 
nick_elt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by tann View Post
The UK hasn't even really got LTE yet.
The more countries sign up and more handsets have lte-a the faster you will get it
__________________
White Macbook, 2012 Macbook air 13", titanium grey galaxy note 2, ipad 3rd gen, apple tv 3
nick_elt is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:29 AM   #4
ValSalva
macrumors 68040
 
ValSalva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Burpelson AFB
Wow, 150 Mbps. That should burn through a data plan nice and fast
ValSalva is offline   6 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:30 AM   #5
KimJongEun
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by ValSalva View Post
Wow, 150 Mbps. That should burn through a data plan nice and fast
Unlimited data plan
__________________
27" 2011 iMac, 3.1GHz i5, 8GB RAM, 1TB HD, HD6970M
Audinst HUD-MX1 USB DAC, Sennheiser HD598
KimJongEun is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:31 AM   #6
viperGTS
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by ValSalva View Post
Wow, 150 Mbps. That should burn through a data plan nice and fast
Yeah, if you're irresponsible.
viperGTS is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:33 AM   #7
vmachiel
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Holland
I don't care about peak speeds. Just give me 15, maybe 20 Mbit/s EVERYWHERE, and I'll be very happy.
__________________
2010 MBP, 2.4 GHz i5, 8 GB RAM, 240 GB SSD; 32GB Silver iPhone 5S; 32 GB Wifi iPad (3rd gen)
vmachiel is offline   13 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:38 AM   #8
Tankmaze
macrumors 65816
 
Tankmaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
apple need to make safari in iOS to be able to download files, to make use of that massive speed.
__________________
Check out our game Tank Maze
Tankmaze is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:40 AM   #9
Dwalls90
macrumors 68040
 
Dwalls90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Rather see this bandwidth for higher data plan sizes than stupidly fast rates.

I don't need my LTE to be faster than my home WiFi, if I only get 2GB a month ...
__________________
rMBP 4850HQ & iPhone 6
Dwalls90 is offline   13 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:42 AM   #10
dugbug
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Well its possible. AT&T and Sprint have both published a US LTE-Advanced deployment plan for 2013, and qualcomm has new Gobi chipsets that implement it.


http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/25...ent-plans-2013

I don't know if the Gobi chips are "apple low power happy" but don't see why they wouldn't be for a fall 2013 phone
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/27/28...s-lte-advanced

I must admit I had not thought of a wireless radio improvement for the 5S. We have all gotten myopic vision on CPU speed and fingerprint security.
__________________
Doodle Dice iOS puzzle game: http://www.dyerware.com/forum/index....pic,194.0.html
The greatest iOS game in the world? Perhaps my friends. Perhaps.
dugbug is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:43 AM   #11
chrmjenkins
macrumors 603
 
chrmjenkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CA
Qualcomm's latest radio that apple is likely to use next supports LTE-A so it's just a matter of Apple designing in the transceivers, antennas and firmware to support it.
__________________
Read my Apple A8, iPhone 6 preview and prediction thread here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1770411
Twitter: @anexanhume
chrmjenkins is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:45 AM   #12
tasset
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: May 2007
The only hardware upgrade the 5S can have that will make me get it is not a faster LTE chip, but 'The One' LTE chip to rule them all. I want to buy one iPhone and hop between any US carrier and hopefully international that I please. Supposedly there is a Qualcomm chip that brings this close to reality and in my opinion when we see multiple colors of iPhones then this chip is inside. I doubt Apple will spread its supply chain across three variations (color, capacity, and carrier).
tasset is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:51 AM   #13
iPhonemaster5S
macrumors Demi-God
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Colorado
LTE-A would be awesome for the next iPhone but as we saw it took forever for LTE to be implemented on the iPhone. LTE-A networks aren't even going to be ready in time for a 5S release, so I think its safe to say apple probably won't bring LTE-A with the 5S.
__________________
16 GB T-mobile Samsung Galaxy S5
16 GB T-mobile iPhone 6 (On Order)
16 GB AT&T iPhone 5S
32 GB AT&T iPad 2
iPhonemaster5S is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:54 AM   #14
nick_elt
macrumors 68000
 
nick_elt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by iPhonemaster5S View Post
LTE-A would be awesome for the next iPhone but as we saw it took forever for LTE to be implemented on the iPhone. LTE-A networks aren't even going to be ready in time for a 5S release, so I think its safe to say apple probably won't bring LTE-A with the 5S.
Might be South Korean specific, a big finger to Samsung from Apple
__________________
White Macbook, 2012 Macbook air 13", titanium grey galaxy note 2, ipad 3rd gen, apple tv 3
nick_elt is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 10:58 AM   #15
Oletros
macrumors 603
 
Oletros's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Premià de Mar
Quote:
Originally Posted by nick_elt View Post
Might be South Korean specific, a big finger to Samsung from Apple
How it is a big finger to Samsung?
__________________
There are four kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, statistics, and analyst projections.

Last edited by maflynn; Jul 1, 2013 at 08:29 PM. Reason: Removed deleted post from quote
Oletros is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 11:05 AM   #16
osofast240sx
macrumors 68020
 
osofast240sx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by iPhonemaster5S View Post
LTE-A would be awesome for the next iPhone but as we saw it took forever for LTE to be implemented on the iPhone. LTE-A networks aren't even going to be ready in time for a 5S release, so I think its safe to say apple probably won't bring LTE-A with the 5S.
T-Mobile, att, verzion and sprint will deploy LTE-a before the year is out.
osofast240sx is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 11:06 AM   #17
gnasher729
macrumors G5
 
gnasher729's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by KimJongEun View Post
Unlimited data plan
150 Mbps burns through an unlimited data plan fast

Last edited by maflynn; Jul 1, 2013 at 08:29 PM. Reason: Removed deleted post from quote
gnasher729 is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 11:08 AM   #18
caonimadebi
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: May 2009
What's the point?

so you can burn through your meager 3GB in under 3 minutes??
When will the carriers understand that $10/GB for wireless data is the biggest bottleneck for most consumers??
__________________
15" MBP 2.66Ghz C2D/8GB/128GB SSD; iPhone 4
caonimadebi is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 11:10 AM   #19
Menel
macrumors 601
 
Menel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Atlanta
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacRumors View Post
Image


The Korea Times reports (via Engadget) that Apple and South Korean carrier SK Telecom are in talks regarding a future iPhone that would support faster LTE-Advanced (LTE-A) data networks. Just last week, the carrier announced the launch of the world's first publicly accessible LTE-A network.LTE-A supports a theoretical maximum download speed of 150 Mbps, twice as fast as the LTE standard used on the iPhone 5, although real-world speeds are in general significantly slower than theoretical maximums.

The report suggests that Apple could release an LTE-A iPhone "in the coming months" on the iPhone 5S, but it seems fairly unlikely that Apple would be prepared to support the standard so soon after beginning negotiations with SK Telecom, even if the company has already been working on the technology.

Article Link: Apple in Talks with Korea's SK Telecom for iPhone Supporting Faster LTE-Advanced Networks
150mbps is NOT 'twice as fast as' the 100mbps iPhone 5's LTE modem.

100 to 150 = 50% faster, or 150% speed.

Plenty of people on ATT, Verizon, and others are reporting 60-70mbps speedtests which is right in line with what is expected from a 100mbps link with 30-40% overhead when the RLC, RRC, and PDCP protocol bits are taken into account for each packet to provide robust data over wireless.
__________________
iPhone 6 • iPad Air • Mac mini (2011)
Menel is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 11:16 AM   #20
chrmjenkins
macrumors 603
 
chrmjenkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CA
Quote:
Originally Posted by dugbug View Post
That doesn't have much to do with anything
And they're standard essential too.
__________________
Read my Apple A8, iPhone 6 preview and prediction thread here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1770411
Twitter: @anexanhume
chrmjenkins is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 11:18 AM   #21
awulf
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: South Australia
Send a message via ICQ to awulf Send a message via AIM to awulf Send a message via Yahoo to awulf Send a message via Skype™ to awulf
Quote:
Originally Posted by Menel View Post
150mbps is NOT 'twice as fast as' the 100mbps iPhone 5's LTE modem.

100 to 150 = 50% faster, or 150% speed.

Plenty of people on ATT, Verizon, and others are reporting 60-70mbps speedtests which is right in line with what is expected from a 100mbps link with 30-40% overhead when the RLC, RRC, and PDCP protocol bits are taken into account for each packet to provide robust data over wireless.
I can back your statement my fastest result, 88.66Mb/s down:
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/574373924
awulf is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 11:36 AM   #22
appleisking
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: May 2013
Meh why would you ever need such speeds. LTE has already reached bandwith speeds that will enable web browsing on a phone as fast as a computer. Do we really need more? Now, if we can somehow have carriers significantly reduce prices on their networks, so that people an actually not be afraid of burning through their data plans, then maybe we can start talking about this.
appleisking is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 11:40 AM   #23
nephron8
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by vmachiel View Post
I don't care about peak speeds. Just give me 15, maybe 20 Mbit/s EVERYWHERE, and I'll be very happy.
So true.No point in building network which work at specific places.
nephron8 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 11:43 AM   #24
OriginalMacRat
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by osofast240sx View Post
T-Mobile, att, verzion and sprint will deploy LTE-a before the year is out.
I remember reading that T-Mobile US only used LTE-A hardware for their network. That's their reasoning that they were going to be faster than the competition.
OriginalMacRat is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 1, 2013, 11:44 AM   #25
AndyHardwake
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sochi
Just last week, the carrier announced the launch of the world's first publicly accessible LTE-A network.

Not sure this announcement was accurate, http://www.yota.ru/ru/news/details/?ID=316537

Not sure this is anything other than marketing hype as at that time there was simply no LTE-A user equipment to test their network.
AndyHardwake is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is Apple doing the throttling LTE on the networks? tigres iPhone 26 Jun 5, 2013 10:44 PM
Will the iPhone 5 Support LTE Advanced? Lightey iPhone 4 Mar 28, 2013 01:24 PM
Apple Devices to Support Many New International LTE Networks In Coming Months MacRumors iOS Blog Discussion 18 Dec 14, 2012 08:52 PM
Apple Must Approve Carrier LTE Networks Before Allowing iPhone 5 to Connect to Them MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 112 Dec 4, 2012 03:15 PM
Apple confirms iPhone 5 won't do simultaneous voice and LTE data on CDMA networks digital.l0gic Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices 2 Sep 13, 2012 09:01 PM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:46 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC