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iPhonemaster5S

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Anyone here think the next iPhone will be wireless AC compatible? It's still a relatively new technology but there are some routers that support it, is it something apple would do or is just too new for them to include. I'm hoping that they include it it might give them an upper and against competitors.
 

Marrakas

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most likely, since they already added it to the new macbook air and the new airport extreme and time capsule.
 

cynics

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I'd imagine it would. The AirPort Extreme and time capsule support it. I waiting for it in an iMac dude to the massive amounts of streaming I do.
 

CosmoPilot

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It's a certainty.

Samsung and Giggles flagship phones now have it, so will Apple's.

Apple just introduced this technology a few months ago. Expect all Apple products to have it from here on out.
 

Agent-P

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It's a certainty.

Samsung and Giggles flagship phones now have it, so will Apple's.

Apple just introduced this technology a few months ago. Expect all Apple products to have it from here on out.

I know that was an autocorrect mistake, but I still found it funny (or maybe I just found it funny since I only got four hours of sleep last night).
 

cclloyd

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I know that was an autocorrect mistake, but I still found it funny (or maybe I just found it funny since I only got four hours of sleep last night).

I thought autocorrect doesn't correct you if you capitalize it. And why would it capitalize Giggles :p
 

Persifleur

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Apple introduced 802.11n wireless to Airport Extreme in 2007, and to Airport Express and Time Capsule in 2008. Apple computers like the iMacs and MacBooks officially received support in 2007 and 2008 (it was technically available earlier: see the whole 802.11n Enabler controversy). However, the iPhone 3g, released in 2008, and the 3gs, released in 2009, both had 802.11g. It wasn't until the iPhone 4 in 2010 that any iPhone got 802.11n support.

I'm not optimistic.
 

cynics

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Apple introduced 802.11n wireless to Airport Extreme in 2007, and to Airport Express and Time Capsule in 2008. Apple computers like the iMacs and MacBooks officially received support in 2007 and 2008 (it was technically available earlier: see the whole 802.11n Enabler controversy). However, the iPhone 3g, released in 2008, and the 3gs, released in 2009, both had 802.11g. It wasn't until the iPhone 4 in 2010 that any iPhone got 802.11n support.

I'm not optimistic.

Good point!

The iMac doesn't even have it yet. Everyone is expecting it in the next model so maybe we won't see it in the iPhone just yet.
 

iSmart

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I Hope that the iphone 5s will be compatible NFC, all Android phones are


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iphone 5s
 
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LucSkywalker

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iPhone not full 802.11n speed yet...

Check with an AirPort utility - iPhone 5 is not connected at 450mbps... Just somewhere in the 150 range if memory serve well. So "ac" seems in 2-3 steps.
 

SpoekGTi

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But apple says the it is wireless n compatible so technically it should get up to 450 Mbps.

If you connect it on a 5Ghz it might yes, but it'll probably connect on 300Mbps which are still theoretical speeds so you might get a solid 50mbps through the wireless chip in your phone.

So even when Apple puts in AC chips you are never going to get that 1750Mbps throughput when staying on the 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz frequency, hell i wanna risk my left kidney that you dont even get above the 100Mbps speeds
 

iPhonemaster5S

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If you connect it on a 5Ghz it might yes, but it'll probably connect on 300Mbps which are still theoretical speeds so you might get a solid 50mbps through the wireless chip in your phone.

So even when Apple puts in AC chips you are never going to get that 1750Mbps throughput when staying on the 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz frequency, hell i wanna risk my left kidney that you dont even get above the 100Mbps speeds

Interesting well still I do hope apple will be able to put the AC chip in the iPhone. Even though its already fast I want bragging rights. :p
 

lexvo

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But apple says the it is wireless n compatible so technically it should get up to 450 Mbps.

As far as I know, this depends on the number of WiFi antennas:
1 antenna = 150 Mbps
2 antennas = 300 Mbps
3 antennas = 450 Mbps

I think the iPhone has only 1 antenna. My 2009 iMac had 2 antennas.
 

iPhonemaster5S

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lexvo

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If your right then it should be able to support 300 Mbps. According to this article here http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-5...ed-third-antenna-for-simultaneous-voice-data/ it has dual antennas. Maybe the new one will have 3 or 4 of them t make it AC compatible.

Well, I was talking about WiFi-antennas and that article is about LTE/3G/...-antennas. I think these are different.

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It looks like the iPhone 5 has one WiFi antenna:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+iPhone+5+Wi-Fi+Antenna/10897/1
 

iPhonemaster5S

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Well, I was talking about WiFi-antennas and that article is about LTE/3G/...-antennas. I think these are different.

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It looks like the iPhone 5 has one WiFi antenna:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+iPhone+5+Wi-Fi+Antenna/10897/1

Whoops never guess I wasn't paying attention sorry about that. :eek::eek:

Curious abut only one wifi antenna, maybe that's something they will claim to revolutionize on by saying "we have amazing wireless AC capabilities and no other company has that"
 

JupiterDoc

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Gigabit 5G WiFi

802.11AC (Gigabit WiFi) remains a work in progress and is really just an extension of N. It is expected to be formally ratified by the IEEE later this year as the official standard. The current AC utilizes a Single-user MIMO. This employs a beamforming technology to send the signal efficiently to one single device at a time. By next year there will be chips available that can send signals to multiple devices simultaneously. When this becomes possible, you will save power on your devices because the fast ones don't have to keep the radio on for as long. You can also make the signal more efficient by only sending it in the direction of devices that are transferring data. The current version of AC might not be ready for prime time until we see multi-user MIMO’s next year.
 
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