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Old Aug 8, 2013, 08:51 AM   #1
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Nidal Hasan trial in Ft Hood already a joke

Nidal Hasan, the turncoat domestic murder ADMITS to the crime, and WANTS the death penalty.

Yet court refuses to accept this and enters a Not Guilty plea "on his behalf".

The way I see it is:
He represents himself, yet the court does not recognize him and says what they please, making this a kangaroo court, meaningless, unethical and likely immoral.

Instead of accepting his plea hang the bastard (better yet strap a bomb on him) he is doing a successful attack on US military legal system (which already is damaged).

He is not mental
He is avowed mujahedin
He is preventing his "defense team" from defending him.
He wants to be killed (and a martyr).
It's costing millions.

He needs a deep hole in ground now where sun don't shine, be it alive or dead, not given another venue to mock peace loving, accepting (not just tolerating) people.


This is sick, really sick.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:12 AM   #2
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'Peace loving accepting people' aren't usually walking around with lethal weapons in my experience.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:18 AM   #3
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Yet court refuses to accept this and enters a Not Guilty plea "on his behalf".
I don't understand. Usually the military has no problem with harsh judgement for harsh crimes.

PS- it should be "trial".
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Instead of accepting his plea hang the bastard (better yet strap a bomb on him)
Why not blow him up at a wedding with a drone missile?


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He needs a deep hole in ground now where sun don't shine, be it alive or dead, not given another venue to mock peace loving, accepting (not just tolerating) people.
America? Peace-loving? lololololololololololol
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 10:15 AM   #5
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I don't understand. Usually the military has no problem with harsh judgement for harsh crimes.
Nor do I, so why are they forcing this trial?

Just accept his guilty please and shoot him. Finished in 1/2 hour.

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America? Peace-loving? lololololololololololol
Compared to some in middle east, America is a combaya love fest (minus the political name calling)

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'Peace loving accepting people' aren't usually walking around with lethal weapons in my experience.
A pencil can be lethal weapon.

And they are usually crazy.
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So basically he wants to become a martyr and you want the military to help him with that...

Better to let his defence team do their job and hopefully get him life in prison instead of giving him what he wants with the death penalty and a chance to become a martyr and recruiting tool for more terrorists.
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So basically he wants to become a martyr and you want the military to help him with that...

Better to let his defence team do their job and hopefully get him life in prison instead of giving him what he wants with the death penalty and a chance to become a martyr and recruiting tool for more terrorists.
I understand the politics and as a rule I am anti-death penalty. It just seems odd because my impression is that the military view of judgement is usually uncompromising.
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Compared to some in middle east, America is a combaya love fest (minus the political name calling)

It's very likely that America has killed the most innocent people around the world since WW2.

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why are they forcing this trial?

Just accept his guilty please and shoot him. Finished in 1/2 hour.
Calling for a trial to be cut short and a defendant shot - you must be one of those 'peaceful accepting' Americans you were talkin' about.


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A pencil can be lethal weapon.

And they are usually crazy.
Car can be lethal weapin and is a usually crazy tooo.
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Some people deserve to die, others deserve to live their entire lives in an isolation cell with alternating pornography/mohammad wallpaper and having backstreet boys playing on loop for the rest of their lives.
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So basically he wants to become a martyr and you want the military to help him with that...

Better to let his defence team do their job and hopefully get him life in prison instead of giving him what he wants with the death penalty and a chance to become a martyr and recruiting tool for more terrorists.
Wait a second. This crime was deemed by our government as work place violence and not a terrorist attack. So if he is not a terrorist then how can he be a martyr if we put him to death?
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Wait a second. This crime was deemed by our government as work place violence and not a terrorist attack. So if he is not a terrorist then how can he be a martyr if we put him to death?
His reasoning for the attacks was he didn't want to have to go and kill other muslims, so whatever the government classifies the attack as he and probably lots of radicals in the middle east will see him as defending Islam. And if the US government kills him for that then it will be a great recruiting tool for radicals.
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His reasoning for the attacks was he didn't want to have to go and kill other muslims, so whatever the government classifies the attack as he and probably lots of radicals in the middle east will see him as defending Islam. And if the US government kills him for that then it will be a great recruiting tool for radicals.
Please. That is a crock. If that is the case then we should of never killed Osama or any of these guys http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...icted-in-2012/

Maybe our nobel peace prize winning president can announce that we will no longer kill terrorist because they will then stop recruiting people.
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I disagree. I think it's a great trail. There's a lovely waterfall just after the 3 mile point on the left side, and the view from the mountain at mile 6 is spectacular.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 05:24 PM   #14
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It's very likely that America has killed the most innocent people around the world since WW2.

Calling for a trial to be cut short and a defendant shot - you must be one of those 'peaceful accepting' Americans you were talkin' about.

Car can be lethal weapin and is a usually crazy tooo.
I am pretty sure Stalin (CCCP) is the king of killing innocents, with Hitler (Nazi) not far behind, but for sure America is guilty of some atrocities, don't deny that.


I did not say cut trial short, just efficient.
Ask defendant if Guilty
Defendant says yes.
Bunch of lawyers review it for procedural correctness (while fresh), if good, to next step.
Ask defendant if he wants to appeal, he says NO.
Case closed.
Sentence pronounced.

To say a trial cannot be correctly, with all the same steps as other, done in 1/2 hour is missing the point. It has been 2 years of preparation, and the defendant agrees with everything he is charged with, so the trial is merely making the record as fact.


And yes, some crazy used a car in Venice Beach, CA.
I think you are saying all Americans are crazy.
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So basically he wants to become a martyr and you want the military to help him with that...

Better to let his defence team do their job and hopefully get him life in prison instead of giving him what he wants with the death penalty and a chance to become a martyr and recruiting tool for more terrorists.
Military is already set to do that.
I did suggest a deep hole for him, dead or ALIVE.

Yes sir, the US Gub wants to make him a martyr, and is doing a terrible job at it too.

I would have accepted his guilty plea and sentenced him to life in solitary confinement. A cell in YUCCA MOUNTAIN, just a shower and hole, cold floor to sleep on.
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Military is already set to do that.
I did suggest a deep hole for him, dead or ALIVE.

Yes sir, the US Gub wants to make him a martyr, and is doing a terrible job at it too.

I would have accepted his guilty plea and sentenced him to life in solitary confinement. A cell in YUCCA MOUNTAIN, just a shower and hole, cold floor to sleep on.
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Please. That is a crock. If that is the case then we should of never killed Osama or any of these guys http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...icted-in-2012/
If it was possible to capture any of those guys alive, especially Osama we shouldn't have killed them. Locking them up in jail for life does the same damage to the terrorist networks as killing them, but it doesn't give the benefit to the terrorists of using them as a martyr and a recruiting tool.
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Some people deserve to die, others deserve to live their entire lives in an isolation cell with alternating pornography/mohammad wallpaper and having backstreet boys playing on loop for the rest of their lives.

damn. that's pure evil genius right there.
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It's very likely that America has killed the most innocent people around the world since WW2.
An astonishing statement to make.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_death_toll

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_ki...munist_regimes


Here's just one excerpt, regarding Cambodia:

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The Killing Fields were a number of sites in Cambodia where large numbers of people were killed and buried by the Khmer Rouge regime, during its rule of the country from 1975 to 1979, immediately after the end of the Vietnam War. At least 200,000 people were executed by the Khmer Rouge,[125] while estimates of the total number of deaths resulting from Khmer Rouge policies, including disease and starvation, range from 1.4 to 2.2 million out of a population of around 7 million.[126]

Democratic Kampuchea (Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge) experienced serious hardships due to the effects of war and disrupted economic activity. According to Michael Vickery, 740,800 people in Cambodia in a population of about 7 million died due to disease, overwork, and political repression.[127] Other estimates suggest approximately 1.7 million and it is described by the Yale University Cambodian Genocide Program as "one of the worst human tragedies of the last century."[128]

Researcher Craig Etcheson of the Documentation Center of Cambodia suggests that the death toll was between 2 and 2.5 million, with a "most likely" figure of 2.2 million. After 5 years of researching some 20,000 grave sites, he concludes that "these mass graves contain the remains of 1,112,829 victims of execution."[127]

Steven Rosefielde claims that Democratic Kampuchea was the deadliest of all communist regimes on a per capita basis, primarily because it "lacked a viable productive core" and "failed to set boundaries on mass murder."[129]
That is more than a million directly executed, with an additional 1-1.5 million worked/starved to death.
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Only astonishing because you either can't read, or don't know when WW2 was.
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Only astonishing because you either can't read, or don't know when WW2 was.
Since I can't read and don't know when WW2 was, enlighten me regarding your estimate.
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Since I can't read and don't know when WW2 was, enlighten me regarding your estimate.
Estimate of what. You don't seem to understand the original statement.
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Estimate of what. You don't seem to understand the original statement.
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It's very likely that America has killed the most innocent people around the world since WW2.
How many innocent people around the world has America has killed since WW2?

Is this a Common Core English test question? Sorry, I don't see the trick.

N="Number of innocent people around the world has America has killed since WW2."

N = ?
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Estimate of what. You don't seem to understand the original statement.
I don't understand the statement either, can you please provide the number of innocent people that America has killed first hand since WW2?
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How many innocent people around the world has America has killed since WW2?

Is this a Common Core English test question? Sorry, I don't see the trick.

N="Number of innocent people around the world has America has killed since WW2."

N = ?
Why did you post a link to genocides pre-WW2 and then an example of a homeland genocide post-WW2?

If you have an example of a regime that you think has killed more people around the world (ie. not on their home territory), than America - then get on with it.

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I don't understand the statement either, can you please provide the number of innocent people that America has killed first hand since WW2?
No I can't provide the exact number. But do feel free to make a claim for another country that has killed more innocent people since WW2 around the world (ie. not on their home territory).
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