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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:01 AM   #1
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Apple Applies for Patent on 'Audio Hyperlinking' to Facilitate Accessing Supplementary Podcast Content




Apple has applied for a patent with the U.S Patent and Trademark Office (via AppleInsider) on methods for using hyperlinks embedded into audio streams that could offer content creators the capability to link to other forms of media or control a device altogether. The main concept of the patent is outlined in the abstract of the filing, and explains how audio hyperlinks could be used to allow listeners to access such content within audio:
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Hyperlinks within an audio stream provide a way for a listener to access linked resources. An audio hyperlink encoded in an audio stream indicates the presence of an audio hyperlink in the audio stream, as well as providing information for traversing the hyperlink to the linked resource. The hyperlink may be conditionally traversed upon a user interaction or automatically upon detection in the audio stream, possibly pausing the audio stream containing the hyperlink during the traversal of the hyperlink and resuming the audio stream if the audio stream is returned to from the linked material. The linked material may be other audio content, but may also be any other type of desired content that may be accessible by the system processing the audio stream.

In the patent application, Apple gives an example of a podcast which could link to other podcasts, websites, or other media, and Apple describes how software could either automatically activate audio hyperlinks when detected or offer a user interface to allow users to have control over activation of the links.
While the patent application does not make any references to specific devices, examples and drawings outline how the process could be applied to such mobile devices such as iPhones, iPads, and iPods.

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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:06 AM   #2
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Def an interesting concept. More pops to get creative = good.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:08 AM   #3
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I can see Siri being used with this to activate the 'link' while listening when one's hands are not free.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:09 AM   #4
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Another one of those ideas that makes you wonder why nobody has thought of it until now.

This could be a great way for podcasts to link to relevant content such as news articles and for bands to link to their tour page from their album for example.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:11 AM   #5
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This is one of those things I never thought of but am surprised that nobody has done already after I hear about it.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:14 AM   #6
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This isn't a new idea. This is very much inline with cutting-edge research being done everywhere on music information retrieval (MIR), whose primary research goal is to enable all kinds of music content, recordings, MIDI, sheet music, anything to be able to link together with no metadata at all.

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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:14 AM   #7
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Another one of those ideas that makes you wonder why nobody has thought of it until now.

This could be a great way for podcasts to link to relevant content such as news articles and for bands to link to their tour page from their album for example.
or interactive audiobooks ... thinking like the old adventure books
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:15 AM   #8
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This is an intriguing idea. When will this manifest?
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:24 AM   #9
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:27 AM   #10
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Meh. Sounds a lot like an ad to me.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:31 AM   #11
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Would this be propritary to like Garageband and Logic? Does Apple have another podcast creation program?
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:33 AM   #12
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Meh. Sounds a lot like an ad to me.
Exactly. I'm sure there will be "good" uses for this but I too see it as a way to link to an external ad without having it encoded in the stream or at a particular time-stamp.
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Another one of those ideas that makes you wonder why nobody has thought of it until now.
They have. Several times.

By and large it hasn't caught on because it didn't work on iPods.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:38 AM   #14
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What's the point? If it catches on and is a really cool feature....other companies will just steal the technology, copy it and market it... slamming Apple in the process. When Apple tries to enforce their patent, the others will just claim that its critical technology to the platform, FRAND, blah blah blah...and the patent will then get tossed out.

Friggan joke.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:41 AM   #15
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Soundcloud already makes something like that or not?
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:41 AM   #16
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What's the point? If it catches on and is a really cool feature....other companies will just steal the technology, copy it and market it... slamming Apple in the process. When Apple tries to enforce their patent, the others will just claim that its critical technology to the platform, FRAND, blah blah blah...and the patent will then get tossed out.

Friggan joke.
Get ahead of yourself much?
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:45 AM   #17
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NTT DoCoMo thought of this about 6 years ago

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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:49 AM   #18
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I don't understand this, could someone clarify for me?
- is it that you can link to certain parts of an audio file? - Say, 10:46 in an hour long audio file?
Or is it that an audio file (or stream, whatever) can link to stuff - if so,*how does one activate those links,*do they get activated when a certain point is reached in the audio file or is it done by other means?
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This isn't a new idea. This is very much inline with cutting-edge research being done everywhere on music information retrieval (MIR), whose primary research goal is to enable all kinds of music content, recordings, MIDI, sheet music, anything to be able to link together with no metadata at all.
Yes, but guess who patented it first. Funny world we live in.
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What's the point? If it catches on and is a really cool feature....other companies will just steal the technology, copy it and market it... slamming Apple in the process. When Apple tries to enforce their patent, the others will just claim that its critical technology to the platform, FRAND, blah blah blah...and the patent will then get tossed out.

Friggan joke.
What are you on about? Quit this nonsense.
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 09:53 AM   #21
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It's going to be used for ads.
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What's the point? If it catches on and is a really cool feature....other companies will just steal the technology, copy it and market it... slamming Apple in the process. When Apple tries to enforce their patent, the others will just claim that its critical technology to the platform, FRAND, blah blah blah...and the patent will then get tossed out.
FRAND patents become FRAND only if the patent holder makes them FRAND.

"Standard essential patents" are patents that are needed to implement a standard. When a standard is created, everyone involve will try to make sure that everyone holding a patent that would be standards essential will be made available as FRAND; if they refuse then the standard makers have a problem and need to change the standard so that the patent isn't required.

In neither case will the patent be thrown out.
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Def an interesting concept. More pops to get creative = good.
I could see this going beyond just podcasts. Or even just audio. Imagine iTunes U with synced slides popping up during audio feeds or even just written comments, perhaps added by students themselves (much like those vocal recorders apps)

Or second screen applications or switching on and off audio tracks for other languages or commentary.

Or yes even advertising.

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When Apple tries to enforce their patent, the others will just claim that its critical technology to the platform, FRAND, blah blah blah...and the patent will then get tossed out.
You can't just call something FRAND and it is so. Google tried it several times and it didn't work.

Companies have to agree to add their IP into a standard and it has to be something with basically no other possible method or this is the overwhelming preferred method.
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[...]that could offer content creators the capability to link to other forms of media or control a device altogether.
If it was used with applescript, it could be really interesting for tutorials as well... No need for a video file, just audio, and everything plays out on screen... of course you wouldn't be able to do something else at the same time... But with this:

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The hyperlink may be conditionally traversed upon a user interaction or automatically upon detection in the audio stream,[...].
You could turn it off...

Of course the ad thing springs to mind... and that would be annoying, especially if it does so automatically upon detection...
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Old Aug 8, 2013, 10:24 AM   #25
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Apple lately seems to be spending most of its time patenting rather than innovating.
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