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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:07 PM   #1
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ITC Rules in Favor of Apple, Older Samsung Products Facing Ban




The U.S. International Trade Commission today ordered an import ban against some Samsung products after finding that the company did infringe on two key Apple patents. The patents include the "Steve Jobs patent" that pertains to touchscreen technology and a patent that detects when a headset is plugged into a device.

Like the import ban that was levied against Apple and later vetoed, Samsung's import ban will take place after a 60-day Presidential review period. It is unlikely that Samsung will get the same presidential intervention, however, as Samsung's patent violations do not involve standard-essential patents. According to AllThingsD, Apple praised the court's decision.

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"With today's decision, the ITC has joined courts around the world in Japan, Korea, Germany, Netherlands and California by standing up for innovation and rejecting Samsung's blatant copying of Apple's products," Apple said. "Protecting real innovation is what the patent system should be about."
This particular Apple vs. Samsung case began back in mid-2011, after Apple asked the ITC to investigate whether the South Korean company had infringed on a number of different patents. In addition to taking their case to the ITC, Samsung and Apple have fought in numerous courtrooms around the world since their dispute began.

The two have a number of other court battles coming in the months ahead, including an upcoming trial in November that will redetermine a portion of the damages that Samsung must pay Apple.



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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:08 PM   #2
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I wonder if this will this also get vetoed...
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:09 PM   #3
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WIll this also get Vetoed i wonder
No.

Apple doesn't use the shady tactic of using standard essential patents as a weapon.
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:09 PM   #4
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There needs to be a ban on "bans".
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:11 PM   #5
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Well Samsung, when you start making some "real innovation," then we can talk about Apple's innovation.
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:12 PM   #6
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Oooooooh gurl, let me get the popcorn!

Edit: Never mind. Quite the bore-fest
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:16 PM   #7
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I wonder if this will this also get vetoed...
Not a chance....

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.....Samsung's import ban will take place after a 60-day Presidential review period. It is unlikely that Samsung will get the same presidential intervention, however, as Samsung's patent violations do not involve standard-essential patents. According to AllThingsD, Apple praised the court's decision.

With today's decision, the ITC has joined courts around the world in Japan, Korea, Germany, Netherlands and California by standing up for innovation and rejecting Samsung's blatant copying of Apple's products," Apple said. "Protecting real innovation is what the patent system should be about."

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I must have been under a rock; didn't know about these courtroom 'victories', especially the one in Korea.
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:17 PM   #8
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So if this doesn't get vetoed will people say Obama is anti South Korea ?
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:19 PM   #9
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No.

Apple doesn't use the shady tactic of using standard essential patents as a weapon.
And by "shady" you mean the fact that Samsung is defending its patents (FRAND or not) which they are entitled to do, right?

There is one and only one guilty party in whole this mess - it's Apple. They started it and they are losing it.
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There is one and only one guilty party in whole this mess - it's Apple. They started it and they are winning it.
There, thought I'd fix that to match the article.
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:26 PM   #13
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There thought I'd fix that to match the article.
If they are winning how come Samsung is now making more profits than Apple? Both companies scored exactly one ITC ban on outdated models. That's what Samsung wants - so far all these lawsuits did not prevent them from releasing innovative products and making profits in the process. Apple on the other hand... are not doing as well with iPhone market share dropping to 13% (far behind Samsung)
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Pffffff typical. Only in America.
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:28 PM   #15
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If they are winning how come Samsung is now making more profits than Apple? Both companies scored exactly one ITC ban on outdated models. That's what Samsung wants - so far all these lawsuits did not prevent them from releasing innovative products and making profits in the process. Apple on the other hand... are not doing as well with iPhone market share dropping to 13% (far behind Samsung)
you still drunk with that absurd piece of garbage that people call article?
pls do a google search my friend...you will find how stupid that article was. im sure plenty of ppl will now post the links...
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:32 PM   #16
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Come on, what did you think, it's not Apple beeing banned, so good bye Samsung products. Noone will veto this one out
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(FRAND or not)
Ha ha well there's kind of a huge difference.

This guy. Samsung's work from home program must pay out pretty well.
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:33 PM   #18
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If they are winning how come Samsung is now making more profits than Apple? Both companies scored exactly one ITC ban on outdated models. That's what Samsung wants - so far all these lawsuits did not prevent them from releasing innovative products and making profits in the process. Apple on the other hand... are not doing as well with iPhone market share dropping to 13% (far behind Samsung)
I'd love to "not do well" as well as Apple does...

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Ha ha well there's kind of a huge difference.

This guy. Samsung's work from home program must pay out pretty well.
Clearly. I had to look at his comment twice to believe my eyes.
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Come on, what did you think, it's not Apple beeing banned, so good bye Samsung products. Noone will veto this one out
The ones being banned are so old they aren't even sold anymore.
The issue here is not the products, but the ban itself and the precedence it sets.
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I wonder if this will this also get vetoed...
Probably not since the US always sides with apple. Sad situation
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Old Aug 9, 2013, 05:36 PM   #22
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Eh the only thing I think about about when I see Samsung is "Make a comeback Sony" Samsung stuff is good and all just so ****** vanilla. No swag

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If they are winning how come Samsung is now making more profits than Apple?
Is this the article -- Strategy Analytics: Strategy Analytics: Samsung Becomes World's Most Profitable Handset Vendor in Q2 2013 -- the one you're talking about?

Did you fail to read the Appleinsider article that thoroughly deconstructed that claim? As Dilger notes in that article:

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Strategy Analytics's "division by two" profit "estimates" press release was picked up and uncritically published by a variety of sources, including Juliette Garside of the Guardian UK, David Murphy of PC Mag, Tim Worstall of Forbes, Christopher Harress of London's International Business Times, Don Reisinger of CNET, Ryan Knutson of the Wall Street Journal, Kevin C. Tofel of Gigaom, Zach Epstein of Boy Genius Report, Matt Clinch of CNBC, and a report by BBC News.
We'll add you to the list of individuals who were snookered by that fundamentally flawed analysis.

Or were you talking about some other claim? References, please.

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Ha ha well there's kind of a huge difference.

This guy. Samsung's work from home program must pay out pretty well.
Oh dear God we're not going to have this again are we? The good old you don't agree with my 'opinion' so therefore you work for Samsung

Please find a different tune eh?
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I wonder if this will this also get vetoed...
Only if the ban is based on FRAND patents.

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Probably not since the US always sides with apple. Sad situation
It's not siding with Apple. It's all about FRAND patents.
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