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Old Aug 10, 2013, 06:12 PM   #1
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Arizona family put their religious faith to the test

Sick with the ever increasing laws permitting abortion and homosexuality, the Northern Arizona Gastonguay family "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led" them. They packed their things, and two small kids (and a grandparent for good measure) then set sail from San Diego in their a̶r̶c̶ boat towards the island nation of Kiribati.

They were sailing for weeks when a series of storms hit them and damaged their vessel, leaving them adrift and unable to make progress. They were at sea bobbin' around for about 2 months and running out of food. But the good Lord came through, and a Venezuelan fishing boat spotted them and picked them up.

They're back home now, safe and sound, but it's not all good news as they'll be "forced to pay these taxes that pay for abortions we don't agree with."

Boo Hoo.

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Old Aug 10, 2013, 06:19 PM   #2
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The real question here is:

How on Earth did a Venezuelan boat rescue them?

I mean, Venezuela has no Pacific outlets... (Yes I do understands boats travel, but the odds of this).
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Old Aug 10, 2013, 06:28 PM   #3
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So, just to confirm, are you mocking that these people decided to actually attempt to do something about their beliefs rather than just bitch about it?
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Old Aug 10, 2013, 06:34 PM   #4
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So, just to confirm, are you mocking that these people decided to actually attempt to do something about their beliefs rather than just bitch about it?
I don't think people should go around 'doing something about their religious beliefs'. Buildings have a habit of being blown up that way. Pray-the-gay-away institutions get set up that way.
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Old Aug 10, 2013, 06:38 PM   #5
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I don't think people should go around 'doing something about their religious beliefs'. Buildings have a habit of being blown up that way. Pray-the-gay-away institutions get set up that way.
Let's see here, you mock these people because they decided to leave the country they think is going down under. Now, if they bitch about it in the country they want to leave, you also mock them?

In what sense does your logic seem great? All I see here is mocking regardless what people do.
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Old Aug 10, 2013, 06:42 PM   #6
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Let's see here, you mock these people because they decided to leave the country they think is going down under. Now, if they bitch about it in the country they want to leave, you also mock them?

In what sense does your logic seem great? All I see here is mocking regardless what people do.
I think he was referring to the idiotic decision of going on this dangerous trip with young children for the sake of their religious beliefs, or that's how I see it. Very stupid decision.
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Old Aug 10, 2013, 06:42 PM   #7
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Maybe God's telling them that life isn't so bad where they're at and they should be thankful for what they have.
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Clearly its a sign that God loves abortions. Otherwise he would have saw them safely to the islands.
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Old Aug 10, 2013, 06:45 PM   #9
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Why not just handle venomous snakes as a gesture of faith, like normal religious nuts do?
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Old Aug 10, 2013, 06:48 PM   #10
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Let's see here, you mock these people because they decided to leave the country they think is going down under.
Yes.

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Now, if they bitch about it in the country they want to leave, you also mock them?
Yes.

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In what sense does your logic seem great?
Like Tina Turing sang, 'what's logic got to do with it?'
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So, just to confirm, are you mocking that these people decided to actually attempt to do something about their beliefs rather than just bitch about it?
If anyone god is the one doing the mocking here. He clearly tried to kill their small children off in the ocean. Ironic when the were trying to escape abortion. And to pile on the irony they are all getting flown back on the US taxpayers dollar when they are against taxes. Two heavenly zingers.
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I think he's was referring to the idiotic decision of going on this dangerous trip with young children for the sake of their religious beliefs, or that's how I see it. Very stupid decision.
Moses and the Hebrews didn't think it was stupid and we know how that turned out.

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Yes.
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Yes.
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Like Tina Turing sang, 'what's logic got to do with it?'


But hell, you like recent events in the modern world? Here a good one for you:

Nor did the first pilgrims think it was stupid to move from England to the Eastern US due to religious beliefs. This country was founded on the principles of religious beliefs and right to believe in whoever you want to believe without having to worry.

However, people like OP who like to mock and ridicule that same principle should be the ones who should set sail. Grow up OP.
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I don't think people should go around 'doing something about their religious beliefs'. Buildings have a habit of being blown up that way. Pray-the-gay-away institutions get set up that way.
Now we're insinuating that everyone with a religious belief system blows up buildings? Could you really get more ignorant? That's not any different than mocking homosexuals.
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Nor did the first pilgrims think it was stupid to move from England to the Eastern US due to religious beliefs. This country was founded on the principles of religious beliefs and right to believe in whoever you want to believe without having to worry.
I do apologize for the pilgrims setting sail to the US. Ruined your chances at a secular society.

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Now we're insinuating that everyone with a religious belief system blows up buildings? Could you really get more ignorant? That's not any different than mocking homosexuals.
Yes. That's what I'm insinuating.

Everyone with religious beliefs goes around blowing up buildings.

And yes, that's the same as mocking homosexuals.

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I do apologize for the pilgrims setting sail to the US. Ruined your chances at a secular society.
I actually like that they did. Imagine if we'd have waited until a non-religious fleet moved along? We wouldn't be having this conversation....
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I actually like that they did. Imagine if we'd have waited until a non-religious fleet moved along? We wouldn't be having this conversation....
Quite right.

We'd be talking about the latest innovation in stem cell research. Not some loons that took a 3 year old and a baby out into the middle of the ocean to see where the invisible man took them because they didn't like their taxes going to gays and abortions.
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The family should consider emigrating to Chile.

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Abortion in Chile is illegal without exception.

The Chilean abortion law is considered one of the most restrictive in the world.

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The family should consider emigrating to Chile.
Not bad. Just leaves the issue of that pesky Inter-American Commission on Human Rights ruling in favour of the gays in Chile every increasingly.
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They are prepared to risk their lives in the name of faith?

Insanity.
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Nor did the first pilgrims think it was stupid to move from England to the Eastern US due to religious beliefs. This country was founded on the principles of religious beliefs and right to believe in whoever you want to believe without having to worry.
That's certainly what we Americans teach our children. Unfortunately it's nothing but a fairy tale. The truth is that the first Europeans who settled here were just as intolerant of other people's beliefs.
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They also endangered a newborn and we won't even talk about how the government is helping them. now for some info about the place they thought they were going. This is a case of the grass is greener on the other side of the sea.

I think the goverment should issue them some tinfoil hats.
1) Overcrowding has been a problem. In 1988 it was announced that 4,700 residents of the main island group would be resettled onto less-populated islands.
So they definitely need immigrants, specifically ones that don't have high-level skills to offer.

2) In 2002 Kiribati passed a controversial law enabling the government to shut down newspapers.
Please note the small government that does little to interfere with its people.

3) Kiribati is expected to be the first country to lose all its land territory to global climate change....in April 2013, President Tong began urging citizens to evacuate the islands and migrate elsewhere.
So, even if this family had been successful, they may have been required to board a ship again in the near future.

4) Kiribati is one of the world's poorest countries

5) The people of Kiribati speak an Oceanic language called "Gilbertese". Although English is also an official language, it is not used very often outside the island capital of Tarawa
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Hope they get charged with child endangerment and have their kids taken away so they can grow up in a sane and safe environment.
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That's certainly what we Americans teach our children. Unfortunately it's nothing but a fairy tale. The truth is that first Europeans who settled here were just as intolerant of other people's beliefs.
My 10th great grandmother, Alice Lake, was the 4th person to be hung as a witch (in 1650) in the new world. Belief in witches hardly seems to be an "enlightened" state of mind but jav6454 seems to think that such behavior is irrelevant as long as people can freely practice their religion.
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Moses and the Hebrews didn't think it was stupid and we know how that turned out.
Moses and the Hebrews were a bunch of mercenaries who had a fallout with their master, fled Egypt to terroize the Sinai for 40 years before making themselves a place to live in Palestine by genocide.


Not sure what this has to do with some braintards packing their children onto a small boat (obviously not really sea-worthy) to some remote islands with neither the space for them nor a future of any kind...
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Ignorant religious people do stupid **** based on false reasons. Yawn.

I must admit, "god" works in mysterious waves.
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