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Old Aug 23, 2013, 09:27 AM   #1
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11" MBA 2012 vs 2013 which one is quieter?

In my country, for a very brief period of time, I have the opportunity to buy 2012 MBA 11" for $300 less than the 2013 MBA 11" both brand new, unopened.
The *only* thing I care about is the fan noise, I want to make sure it stays at or below 2000 rpm as long as possible.

I currently have a MBA 11" (Mid-2011). Under 21C degrees (70F) room temperature it stays at 2000 rpm with Skype audio only and Firefox.

Normally I would buy the 2012 for 300 less, but if the new Haswell is more silent (with the lower TDP and all) then it's worth for me to pay 300 more.
I don't care about the storage, battery, ram etc. and I will buy an 11" for sure.
I will appreciate any insight about those two machines, thanks in advance.
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Old Aug 23, 2013, 10:28 AM   #2
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In my country, for a very brief period of time, I have the opportunity to buy 2012 MBA 11" for $300 less than the 2013 MBA 11" both brand new, unopened.
The *only* thing I care about is the fan noise, I want to make sure it stays at or below 2000 rpm as long as possible.

I currently have a MBA 11" (Mid-2011). Under 21C degrees (70F) room temperature it stays at 2000 rpm with Skype audio only and Firefox.

Normally I would buy the 2012 for 300 less, but if the new Haswell is more silent (with the lower TDP and all) then it's worth for me to pay 300 more.
I don't care about the storage, battery, ram etc. and I will buy an 11" for sure.
I will appreciate any insight about those two machines, thanks in advance.
my 2013 haswell Fan RPM is 1190. but as for 21 degrees, it normally is 28 or 32 as i am typing to you know, i have never ever saw it at 21, you must live somewhere cold? or have Aircon?
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Old Aug 23, 2013, 11:16 AM   #3
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my 2013 haswell Fan RPM is 1190. but as for 21 degrees, it normally is 28 or 32 as i am typing to you know, i have never ever saw it at 21, you must live somewhere cold? or have Aircon?
ha, the irishman telling someone else he lives somewhere cold
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Old Aug 23, 2013, 11:17 AM   #4
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my 2013 haswell Fan RPM is 1190. but as for 21 degrees, it normally is 28 or 32 as i am typing to you know, i have never ever saw it at 21, you must live somewhere cold? or have Aircon?
oh, 21 is for the winter, these days it's 25-30 degrees outside, and my fan is more like 2500-3000 rpm. your 1190 is great i've never seen that with 2011 model, thanks for the info..
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Old Aug 23, 2013, 11:22 AM   #5
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oh, 21 is for the winter, these days it's 25-30 degrees outside, and my fan is more like 2500-3000 rpm. your 1190 is great i've never seen that with 2011 model, thanks for the info..
2013s are super quiet and super cool.
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Old Aug 23, 2013, 12:39 PM   #6
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Normally I would buy the 2012 for 300 less, but if the new Haswell is more silent (with the lower TDP and all) then it's worth for me to pay 300 more.
By the numbers, everything else being equal, the Haswell *should* run *slightly* cooler = fan staying quieter. But I say don't expect miracles. If u push it, the fan will still come on strong.

Known so far:

2012 idle = 2,000 rpm
2013 idle = 1,200 rpm
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Old Aug 23, 2013, 02:05 PM   #7
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I have both in i7 versions. The '13 is a lot quieter for me... Much better machine
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Old Aug 23, 2013, 04:31 PM   #8
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Wife has a 13" 2012. I have an 11" 2013. Zero noise from either so far.
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Old Aug 23, 2013, 08:23 PM   #9
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Even when I watch youtube videos on my 11 mba 2013, it is quiet and there is not heat build-up unlike the earlier mbas.
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Old Aug 23, 2013, 09:38 PM   #10
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Not even close..the 2013's are superior. I've yet to hear my fan in my MBA 11".
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Old Aug 24, 2013, 12:57 AM   #11
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2013 13" i7 here and after 3 weeks of pretty good use, have yet to hear the fan...
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Old Aug 24, 2013, 02:56 AM   #12
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Just as noisy when the fan is running, just as quiet when it isn't. But the 2013 runs the fans less.
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Old Aug 24, 2013, 03:09 AM   #13
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I have bougth yesterday 13" 2013 and also didnt hear any sound, thought that something wrong lol because my previous laptop was like a tractor
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Old Aug 24, 2013, 07:58 AM   #14
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...spec for spec on each processor the Haswell's should be the quieter machines...
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Old Aug 24, 2013, 10:20 AM   #15
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...spec for spec on each processor the Haswell's should be the quieter machines...
yeah, with the lower TDP, LPDDR3 etc. with the same chasis and fan and all...
i thought someone would say "keep your 300 bucks 2012 is just as silent" oh well...
thanks for all the input, 2013 it is..
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Old Aug 24, 2013, 02:12 PM   #16
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I've been using 13 inch 2013 MBA for the past 3 weeks and I only heard the fan for 10 mins when editing 1080p video. Since then, I've never heard it again. Thought I had a faulty unit but confirmed everything is OK by running a fan speed check app, it was running around 1192 rpm. Since past 3 weeks, watched many youtube, edited many photos, installed and ran tons of apps and finally atm I am installing mavericks starting from beta 1. I am currently installing beta 4 and why I am telling you this; I still don't hear the goddamn fan this is an amazing product. I just can't believe it as a former windows notebook user.
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Old Aug 24, 2013, 02:32 PM   #17
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Same here:
Went from a 2011 13" MBA (i5/4GB/256G SSD) to a 2013 13" MBA (i7/8GB/512G SSD) and the new machine is so much more enjoyable for me. I use it at work and have to run a full Windows 7 with Parallels and it not only now lasts the whole working day on battery, but so far I have not been exposed to any noticeable fan noise - quite the contradiction to my 2011 model that regularly made a lot of noise (and I tried a lot to cut it down).
But sorry, I can not comment on how a 2012 MBA would compare...

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Old Aug 27, 2013, 03:04 PM   #18
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I bought the 11" 2013. I don't know about 2012 but this is not even in the same league with the 2011, highly recommended. Thanks again for all the help..

Edit: MagSafe 2 is stupid though; L-shaped are much better..
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