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ishkan

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Just received a ransom notes from Parallel that Maverick won't work with Parallel 7. Never again :mad:.

"URGENT SERVICE NOTIFICATION FOR PARALLELS DESKTOP 7 FOR MAC USERS:
If you intend to upgrade to the upcoming Mac OS X Mavericks (10.9), please note that Parallels Desktop 7 for Mac will not support OS X Mavericks (10.9). You will not be able to launch your Windows virtual machine or directly use your files through Parallels Desktop 7.

Before you install OS X Mavericks; upgrade to Parallels Desktop 9 for Mac, as it is the only version available today ready for Mavericks.

Upgrade to Parallels Desktop 9 for Mac"
 
Just received a ransom notes from Parallel that Maverick won't work with Parallel 7. Never again :mad:.

"URGENT SERVICE NOTIFICATION FOR PARALLELS DESKTOP 7 FOR MAC USERS:
If you intend to upgrade to the upcoming Mac OS X Mavericks (10.9), please note that Parallels Desktop 7 for Mac will not support OS X Mavericks (10.9). You will not be able to launch your Windows virtual machine or directly use your files through Parallels Desktop 7.

Before you install OS X Mavericks; upgrade to Parallels Desktop 9 for Mac, as it is the only version available today ready for Mavericks.

Upgrade to Parallels Desktop 9 for Mac"

Given that the "upgrade" is 49 on up, it might not be a bad idea to switch to another virtual. Parallels 7 should have a non-version upgrade for free or just a couple of dollars to work with 10.9. I am sure some will disagree but for me, it is more the principle of various software makers squeezing more out of the average user.
 
Parallel 7 won't work with OSX 10.9

I live in Bangkok, where it is easier to buy a fake than the real thing, but I bought Parallels 7 from their site. No I see their software is no longer forward compatible after just 2 years.

I think that Parallels are way over estimating the loyalty of their customers.
 
Just saw this as well.
Parasites.

Tell me - is it possible to switch to another VM manager without loosing existing parallels VM ?

I'm not paying them 50 for an 'upgrade'. Hell I doubt Mavericks itself would cost that much
 
If you don't want to pay for a Parallels upgrade then don't upgrade to Mavericks. Simple enough. Lots of apps have problems with OS upgrades. While their upgrade price is a little high, you still have choices.
 
If you don't want to pay for a Parallels upgrade then don't upgrade to Mavericks. Simple enough. Lots of apps have problems with OS upgrades. While their upgrade price is a little high, you still have choices.


Oh fine - I'll forgo upgraded battery life and increased preformance, not to mention new features like multiple monitors and tabbed finder just because Parallels are leeches? I think not. Vitrual Box all the way.

Think about this - if every software company took the attitude of Parallels - how many people would upgrade ? Supposing every piece of software on your system needed a 50EUR upgrade everytime there was a new OS ? Would Apple be happy with that ? Don't think so.

This move by parallels is pure opportunism - they will be punished by losing customers.
 
I think not. Vitrual Box all the way.

VirtualBox is great for free (and sometimes better at things like supporting the latest Linux distros) but I have to say that, overall, Parallels is much slicker with better graphics and USB support, and nice features for integrating Windows and OS X applications.

Might be time to give VMWare Fusion another go - anybody done a recent side-by-side comparison of Fusion and Parallels? Do they have a better track record at supporting new host and guest OSs without a paid upgrade?
 
VirtualBox is great for free (and sometimes better at things like supporting the latest Linux distros) but I have to say that, overall, Parallels is much slicker with better graphics and USB support, and nice features for integrating Windows and OS X applications.

Might be time to give VMWare Fusion another go - anybody done a recent side-by-side comparison of Fusion and Parallels? Do they have a better track record at supporting new host and guest OSs without a paid upgrade?

Might just bootcamp. My software should run quicker in windows natively
 
"Might just bootcamp. My software should run quicker in windows natively"

Ok, Fusion/Parallels allows you to run your Win apps without rebooting, right?

Or have I got something wrong. I have P7 and agree with everything said, but that's the only way to not reboot into Bootcamp, right?
 
Good and.....

Just received a ransom notes from Parallel that Maverick won't work with Parallel 7. Never again :mad:.

"URGENT SERVICE NOTIFICATION FOR PARALLELS DESKTOP 7 FOR MAC USERS:
If you intend to upgrade to the upcoming Mac OS X Mavericks (10.9), please note that Parallels Desktop 7 for Mac will not support OS X Mavericks (10.9). You will not be able to launch your Windows virtual machine or directly use your files through Parallels Desktop 7.

Before you install OS X Mavericks; upgrade to Parallels Desktop 9 for Mac, as it is the only version available today ready for Mavericks.

Upgrade to Parallels Desktop 9 for Mac"

useful warning. Thanks iskahn.....:D

Have to confirm from the developer tough....:eek:


:):apple:
 
Parallels 7 is two versions old now, 8 and 9 will work with Mavericks. Its not reasonable to expect developers to go back and make older versions compatible with new operating systems.
 
I'm down to running only 1 program in Windows...Quicken. Looks like it's time to put up with the inconvenience of a reboot to run it in Bootcamp. God, I wish I could find an acceptable alternative to Quicken for Windows!!!
 
I'm down to running only 1 program in Windows...Quicken. Looks like it's time to put up with the inconvenience of a reboot to run it in Bootcamp.

Tip: VirtualBox is a free alternative to Parallels or VMWare Fusion. It's not as slick or well-integrated, doesn't have such good 3D support, but should be more than adequate for running Quicken - and far less hassle than rebooting.

Parallels 7 is two versions old now, 8 and 9 will work with Mavericks. Its not reasonable to expect developers to go back and make older versions compatible with new operating systems.

Replace "two versions old" with "two years old", point out that the upgrade price is 60% of the new price and that doesn't sound quite so good - does it?



Or have I got something wrong. I have P7 and agree with everything said, but that's the only way to not reboot into Bootcamp, right?

If you don't want to reboot - Parallels, VMWare Fusion and VirtualBox let you run Windows (and other operating systems) in a virtual machine without rebooting. VirtualBox is free and worth trying first to see if it does what you need.

The other alternative is Wine (free) or the commercial version Crossover which aims to let Windows applications run on OSX or Linux without needing Windows. Haven't tried that - but it really comes down to whether the software you want to run is supported & works.
 
Looks like it's time to put up with the inconvenience of a reboot to run it in Bootcamp. God, I wish I could find an acceptable alternative to Quicken for Windows!!!

Similar situation here - unlike some, I don't absolutely have to run both OS at the same time. I'm down to two programs (MS Excel and Elaborate Bytes' DVD dup software) that I strongly prefer to the similar Mac options. I don't mind paying for an upgrade, but as OP said, $50 is ransom considering the other options.

So assuming that I jump from 10.6.8 to "Mavericks", my Parallels will end up in the bin. Bootcamp, here I come.

God, I wish I could find an acceptable alternative to Quicken for Windows!!!

I'd be in line for that too. I do miss the old "Quicken for PC" days.
 
I finally manage to move all my VMs out of Parallel into VirtualBox. I am using this guide:

http://www.neilturner.me.uk/2008/11/19/how_to_migrate_a_parallel.html.

The link for the VM converter has changed, but you can search for it at VMWare site. It took me full 2 days to do the all the conversions. That was the most expensive USD50 I ever saved :D. It was stupid and irrational behaviour on my part, but I hate to be cornered. The feeling of being force to do something I am not ready to do yet. Anyway now all my VM can either run on VirtualBox or VMware. That by itself is sweet.

I am a software developer myself, but this whole thing of force upgrade just don't feel right. Sure I have the choice of not upgrading anything else until I upgrade Parallel, but that just ridiculous in my book.
 
Is the developer still updating the application? If it hasn't received an update in a while, why should it be expected that they will continue to update it? At some point the company has to decide to dedicate resources to things other than an aging application that has been replaced TWICE by newer versions.

mic j, I use VirtualBox for a Windows 7 VM just for Quicken. Suits things JUST FINE. It works just as if I had Quicken installed on a Windows computer.
 
Yep

If you don't want to pay for a Parallels upgrade then don't upgrade to Mavericks. Simple enough. Lots of apps have problems with OS upgrades. While their upgrade price is a little high, you still have choices.

No one is forcing anyone to upgrade to 10.9. Why do people think everything should be done for free?
 
So Parallels 7 is now two versions old. It works fine on even the presently-current version of OS X. It will not work on the about-to-be-released version of OS X.

Similarly, VMWare Fusion 4 is two versions old. It doesn't even work fine on the current version of OS X, much less Mavericks. VMWare Fusion 5 'sort of' works on Mavericks, but won't be officially supported.

Why do people think software companies should offer support for two-version-old versions of their software in perpetuity?
 
I am a software developer myself, but this whole thing of force upgrade just don't feel right. Sure I have the choice of not upgrading anything else until I upgrade Parallel, but that just ridiculous in my book.

So you would continue upgrading your old software regardless of how old it is? And give the new version away for free? And maintain three separate versions of it at one time?
 
Consider that Parallels has kernel extensions and has to integrate at a pretty low level of the OS to work its virtualization magic. Most applications don't do that and it is much easier to support upgrades of the OS. also, mavericks rewrote much of the 3d support which Parallels uses for 3d accelerated display.
 
They are now spamming me with urgent messages that I need to upgrade.

F**kers. I'll stay on ML just to spite them at this stage. You hear that Apple ? You are losing out on OS upgrade money cause of these guys.
 
There is often a difference between not supported and wont work. Give a few days and see what happens. I remember a similar situation with an earlier version of Parallels and it ended up working just fine for me.

I'm gonna give it a shot and see if my luck continues.
 
Oohhhhhh!

They are now spamming me with urgent messages that I need to upgrade.

F**kers. I'll stay on ML just to spite them at this stage. You hear that Apple ? You are losing out on OS upgrade money cause of these guys.

That's get 'em!

YEAH, LET APPLE KEEP THEIR $29!
 
That's get 'em!

YEAH, LET APPLE KEEP THEIR $29!

Well...erm that is the essence of the free market. The more people who don't buy and protest, the more pressure there is to change. But you be a good sheep there and buy everything they tell you.

There is often a difference between not supported and wont work. Give a few days and see what happens. I remember a similar situation with an earlier version of Parallels and it ended up working just fine for me.

I'm gonna give it a shot and see if my luck continues.

Do let us know what you find. I can't risk it at the moment need my windows partition working for a project.
 
Huh?

Well...erm that is the essence of the free market. The more people who don't buy and protest, the more pressure there is to change. But you be a good sheep there and buy everything they tell you.

Oh, **** with your stupid sheep comment. I understand how the free market works, but I also understand that a few people bitching that their 2+ year old software isn't compatible with the latest OS and pledging not to spend another $29 isn't going to do ****.

I don't have or use any virtualization software, I'm just tired of cheap people not willing to pay people for their work.
 
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