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Old Sep 22, 2013, 09:11 AM   #1
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Kenyan Mall Attack

"Masked gunmen stormed into a fancy, crowded mall in Nairobi on Saturday and shot dead at least 39 people and wounded more than 150 in one of the most chilling terrorist attacks in East Africa since Al Qaeda blew up two American embassies in 1998."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/22/wo...anted=all&_r=0
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 09:36 AM   #2
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AP is reporting death toll is at 59, including children. I read somewhere yesterday the terrorist were having people recite prayers to determine is they were muslim or not, I'll see if I can dig up the link.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 09:43 AM   #3
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AP is reporting death toll is at 59, including children. I read somewhere yesterday the terrorist were having people recite prayers to determine is they were muslim or not, I'll see if I can dig up the link.
They were asking who the prophets mother and father were, bit tricky for a non Muslim.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 09:48 AM   #4
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They were asking who the prophets mother and father were, bit tricky for a non Muslim.
The newspapers and the TV here are reporting the same story in the Netherlands.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 09:59 AM   #5
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I read somewhere yesterday the terrorist were having people recite prayers to determine is they were muslim or not, I'll see if I can dig up the link.
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They were asking who the prophets mother and father were, bit tricky for a non Muslim.
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The newspapers and the TV here are reporting the same story in the Netherlands.
Yes. They were religious fanatics, trying to separate out those who shared their faith.

Is there anything to be gleaned from that?
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 10:10 AM   #6
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Yes we can glean that religion is a wonderful thing and we need more of it the world...
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 10:18 AM   #7
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Yes we can glean that religion is a wonderful thing and we need more of it the world...
Religion can be a wonderful thing.

It can also be misused.

Like most things in this world.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 10:21 AM   #8
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Religion can be a wonderful thing.

It can also be misused.

Like most things in this world.
Do you think we still need religion for those wonderful things to happen? Are we evolved enough as a species to want to help each without doing so just because the church says we should?
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 10:25 AM   #9
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Do you think we still need religion for those wonderful things to happen? Are we evolved enough as a species to want to help each without doing so just because the church says we should?
IMO, we are nowhere near that point.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 10:27 AM   #10
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IMO, we are nowhere near that point.
You're probably right...
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 12:44 PM   #11
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That loving and peaceful religion again. We can't judge though.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 01:05 PM   #12
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That loving and peaceful religion again. We can't judge though.
Yes, Because all Muslims and only Muslims are terrorists

Christians have never waged war and committed mass murder.

EVER.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 02:44 PM   #13
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That loving and peaceful religion again. We can't judge though.
What exactly do you hope to gain by "judging"?
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That loving and peaceful religion again. We can't judge though.
I think it has more to do of living in a culture of failure and violence rather than the religion. Same with problems in the middle east.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 02:48 PM   #15
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What exactly do you hope to gain by "judging"?
... an entire population of 1.6 billion people.

[finished that sentence for you]

Of course we're all judging the acts of those perpetrated the massacre.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 03:49 PM   #16
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Yes, Because all Muslims and only Muslims are terrorists

Christians have never waged war and committed mass murder.

EVER.
This isn't a story about Christians but it didn't take long (next post) before the apologists/anti-Christian clan would swarm. Business as usual here.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 04:15 PM   #17
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Do you think we still need religion for those wonderful things to happen? Are we evolved enough as a species to want to help each without doing so just because the church says we should?
That last sentence implies that people actually base their behavior on what the Church tells them. Sure some people it's say their faith that make them a good person, but it's bull crap. The majority of those currently spending time in the US prison system are Christians. Not because Christians are inherently bad, no more than they are inherently good, but simply because they make up the majority of this country.

As I like to say, religion is simply an excuse people use to justify what they already believe.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 04:24 PM   #18
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This isn't a story about Christians but it didn't take long (next post) before the apologists/anti-Christian clan would swarm. Business as usual here.
One person.

That's quite the "swarm" you got there.

I think you're disappointed you didn't work up a bigger one.
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This isn't a story about Christians but it didn't take long (next post) before the apologists/anti-Christian clan would swarm. Business as usual here.
Hmmm...so what did this quote mean:

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That loving and peaceful religion again. We can't judge though.
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Muhammad allowed 600+ people to be beheaded at one time, not sure why this wouldn't be considered following in his footsteps.
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I am sure it was another "gun free zone".
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I am sure it was another "gun free zone".
There it is!!!
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There it is!!!
And boom goes the dynamite!
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Old Sep 23, 2013, 05:20 AM   #25
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Religion can be a wonderful thing.

It can also be misused.

Like most things in this world.
If abolishing religion saves just one life then it's worth it
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