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Old Sep 26, 2013, 09:05 AM   #1
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Note-Taking App Vesper Updated with iOS 7 Redesign, New Typography Options




Vesper, a note-taking app developed by a team led by Apple blogger John Gruber, has launched an update that features a complete redesign in-line with the "flat" design principles of iOS 7, as well various other enhancements such as 64-bit support on the iPhone 5s, new typography settings and improved text rendering. The update also includes brand new gestures for photo management and performance improvements.

Originally released in June, Vesper offers a simplistic user interface that focuses on quick input and customizable organization, using a "tags" based system to easily group items into collections. The app also supports photos in addition to text along with an in-app browser, and drag and drop functionality for organization.

Vesper can be downloaded from the App Store for $4.99. [Direct Link]

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Old Sep 26, 2013, 09:16 AM   #2
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Is there anything that this app does that Day One doesn't do way better?
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Old Sep 26, 2013, 09:23 AM   #3
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No question this is a great looking and polished app. Lack of sync and no iPad version is still going to be a deal killer for many though.
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Old Sep 26, 2013, 09:28 AM   #4
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STILL no sync? $4.99?

WTF?

As some blogger said, why is no one saying "data silo"?
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Old Sep 26, 2013, 09:47 AM   #5
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Is there anything that this app does that Day One doesn't do way better?
Simplicity. In Vesper, you tag your notes, swipe to the right, and you see the drawer of your tags. In Day One, I don't think it works that way. Day One is more of a journaling/entry type of app.
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Old Sep 26, 2013, 12:00 PM   #6
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Jottpad is pretty nifty. This one is way overpriced for no sync abilities.

(no, i don't make jottpad)
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Old Sep 26, 2013, 12:27 PM   #7
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STILL no sync? $4.99?

WTF?

As some blogger said, why is no one saying "data silo"?
Currently on sale at $3.99.

I agree that the app is expensive considering limited feature set, but included features are very well done with great "physics" that cannot be demonstrated in pictures.

Having said that, the app badly needs cloud sync, share (not email/SMS variety but live cloud-based share), and iPad version.
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No question this is a great looking and polished app. Lack of sync and no iPad version is still going to be a deal killer for many though.
lack of sync for sure. if i cant read my notes on another device or even one of my computers as i can w/ Notes, then i dont know why i want it.
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Old Sep 26, 2013, 02:04 PM   #10
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It's all very well having a 'beautiful app' but if their is no sync it really is a waste of time. Looking at the list of developers involved in this app I can't believe they haven't realise this.
It may not be so attractive but I'll stick with Simplenote, it's free and even has a free Mac app too.
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Old Nov 16, 2013, 09:47 AM   #11
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Interesting comments about sync being essential.

I'd agree cloud sync is great for things like shopping lists and todo lists, but I don't want it for very personal information (medical, financial, passwords, etc). I want to keep that information out of somebody-else's nebulous cloud. The recent macrumors security breach serves as a reminder that determined hackers are a constant threat to sensitive online data - particularly where it exists in large, lucrative concentrations.

So that's why I like the idea of no sync (or at least being able to turn it off and keep it off)

That said, the vesper devs have sync on their todo list: http://daringfireball.net/2013/09/ve...new_whats_next. But it's reassuring to see they understand the dangers of just throwing everyone's data into some cloud somewhere:

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(Conversely, we’ve also received a surprising number of comments from users over the past few months praising Vesper for not having any sort of online syncing — some of it fueled by the revelations regarding the U.S. government’s warrantless surveillance of popular Internet services. Syncing in Vesper will always be optional, and off by default. If you want your Vesper data to be stored only on your device, that will always remain possible.)
I bought the app recently. It's simple and beautiful for it. We'll worth $4.00. These devs get it. A point made abundantly clear from their frequent and very thoughtful blog posts, such as:

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The navbar is a pretty good example. In our iOS 6 releases, the glyphs and the back button weigh down the top of the screen pretty heavily. When the icons are present, your eye is pulled toward them. Done correctly, outlined icons can maintain their spatial weight without being cognitively heavy.
I ask you, how many iOS devs agonize over the spacial and cognitive weight of their icons?
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Interesting comments about sync being essential.

I'd agree cloud sync is great for things like shopping lists and todo lists, but I don't want it for very personal information (medical, financial, passwords, etc). I want to keep that information out of somebody-else's nebulous cloud. The recent macrumors security breach serves as a reminder that determined hackers are a constant threat to sensitive online data - particularly where it exists in large, lucrative concentrations.
Then I sure hope you also be careful with iCloud sync/backup - at the very least.


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So that's why I like the idea of no sync (or at least being able to turn it off and keep it off)
My take is that, for that kind of use case, you want/need a concrete feature, namely encryption and generally information security focus - not the lack of another feature. No?

(...are you really using a non-encrypted notepad for that kind of info?)

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That said, the vesper devs have sync on their todo list: http://daringfireball.net/2013/09/ve...new_whats_next. But it's reassuring to see they understand the dangers of just throwing everyone's data into some cloud somewhere:



I bought the app recently. It's simple and beautiful for it. We'll worth $4.00. These devs get it. A point made abundantly clear from their frequent and very thoughtful blog posts, such as:



I ask you, how many iOS devs agonize over the spacial and cognitive weight of their icons?
I ask you back, how many iOS devs do you want agonizing over icon placement (for months!) instead of offering real features like, oh I don't know, sync?

Needless to say, you are free to use the app you want and pay whatever you want. If the agonizing over placement of icons is more important for you than sync, sounds like Vesper is perfect for you.
But certainly that doesn't reflect my priorities - I am not even sure if I know what would make a note-taking app "beautiful". So probably Vesper is too exquisite for me.

And so I find the free, excellently-sincyng SimpleNote to be good enough for me.

Also, secondarily but important for me at least, I find myself not wanting to support developers who wax philosophical over icon placement and beauty in half-baked note-taking apps while other apps are already offering the real meat - for free.

And just so you know that it isn't about the "free" part, I am waiting for SimpleNote to start accepting premium accounts again to get one. Simply because I want to make sure that they stay around.
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