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Old Oct 1, 2013, 03:57 PM   #1
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The wife of a motorcyclist who was hit by an SUV during a melee involving 20 to 30 bikers said her husband is paralyzed from the waist down and may never walk again.

Dayana Mejia told ABC News today that her husband was struck by a Range Rover driven by Alexian Lien, who got into a confrontation with the motorcyclists taking part in a group ride in New York City on Sunday.

Lien fled the scene of an initial fender bender after feeling intimidated, police said. The group of motorcyclists chased him and then bashed in the windows of the Range Rover, dragged Lien out into the street, and beat him up while his wife and 2-year-old child watched from the SUV, police said.

Lien received minor injuries and police are searching for suspects involved in his assault.

Mejia's husband, Edwin Mieses, 32, a father of two and an audio engineer, is in critical condition at St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital in New York following Sunday's incident.

In an emotional interview, Mieses' mother, Yolanda Santiago, told ABC News that Lien should be charged with reckless endangerment.

"My son is fighting for his life. The Range Rover plowed right over him,'' Santiago said through tears on the front porch of her Lawrence, Mass., home.

"He's never going to be the same Jay he was,'' said Santiago, referring to her son by his nickname. Then she began to weep into her hands. "Why hasn't the driver been charged with reckless endangerment? He endangered his own child."

Mieses' wife also expressed anger at Lien.

"I blame him. And what I even blame him more for is he's out, he's not even charged, and he's the 'victim,'" Mejia said.

"His spine is crushed. All the ribs on this side are broken," she said, motioning to her left side. "He's a survivor but he's paralyzed from the waist down."

The confrontation began when the group of motorcyclists, out for an annual ride in Manhattan, surrounded Lien's Range Rover and slowed down. One biker cut off the Range Rover in traffic and then slowed his speed even further, and the Range Rover then bumped into the bike.

New York City police said today that the driver of that motorcycle was Christopher Cruz of Passaic, N.J., who was arrested. A second motorcycle driver is also being questioned by police. Cruz has been charged with reckless endangerment, acting in manner injurious to a child, menacing and reckless driving.

The initial accident caused the bikers to slow down, checking on Cruz and yelling and gesturing at Lien. Lien then took off from the group at a high speed, barreling through the motorcyclists and hitting three of them, police said.

One of the men Lien hit was Mieses, according to his wife.

"He should have not run away," said Mejia. "He should have known he wanted to help the person on the floor. By running away, all you're doing is getting them upset like you're trying to flee the scene."

"He still has bumper marks on his forehead,'' Mieses' brother Ray Cepeda told ABC News.

The rest of the bikers then chased Lien's Range Rover up the West Side Highway and onto the Henry Hudson Parkway, where they bashed his car with their helmets, dragged Lien out of the vehicle and beat him.

The man being questioned by police is thought to be responsible for pulling Lien out of the vehicle, cops said.

The entire confrontation was captured on a six-minute helmet-cam video taken by one of the bikers and uploaded to the Internet.

Police are now combing through the video and witness accounts to find other suspects involved in the attack.

The NYPD distributed a still from the video of two suspects wanted in the assault on the driver and said that one bike had a flag sticker of Guyana on the back. The drivers are still being sought.

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said Monday that Lien would not face charges for hitting bikers, including Mieses, as he fled.
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Old Oct 1, 2013, 04:05 PM   #2
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" I don't care my son was intimidating, spiking tires, and other road rage/gang like behavior and the driver of the SUV fled in his and families defense, he should be charged because my son got injured due to my sons actions!"

Bikers got what they deserved after an accident which appears to be the bikers fault anyway( cut the SUV off and immediately braking which didn't leave the SUV driver enough room to react). If I was in that situation and the bikers were attacking my car, I would get out of there as well especially with my loved ones in the vehicle as well.
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Old Oct 1, 2013, 04:09 PM   #3
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He should have ran a few more of them over too!
Biker got what he deserved.
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Old Oct 1, 2013, 04:09 PM   #4
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Gotta love the wife of the injured biker trying to blame the guy in the Land Rover who was attacked by the bikers. Charge him with reckless endangerment? What a joke. He's hurt because of his own stupid decision. Tough ****.


Every one of those bikers should be charged with felony assault, disorderly conduct, destruction of property, and reckless driving for chasing the guy. I bet there's more that could be tacked on too.
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Old Oct 1, 2013, 04:10 PM   #5
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Bikers got what they deserved ...
I watched the video this morning and had the opposite reaction.

No biker in that video "deserved" to be run down.
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I watched the video this morning and had the opposite reaction.

No biker in that video "deserved" to be run down.
They were the instigators of the whole thing.
What would you do if you had a couple dozen bikers speeding after you, damaging your car, trying to open your door? I say they should be thankful he didn't run over more of them, because I believe he was perfectly in the right to do so.
You can't take over a whole road just because you want to ride your motorcycles. It doesn't work like that. Other people have to use those roads too.

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I watched the video this morning and had the opposite reaction.

No biker in that video "deserved" to be run down.
I was generalizing a bit.

If some of the injured simply stopped and observing then they didn't deserve it. But, for those who were intimidating the guy, spiking his tires, damaging his car, etc did deserve it. It's like a thief breaking into someone else's home and getting shot. I'm not going to have sympathy for the thief being shot dead......

The video didn't show what was going on fully. All that can be seen was the initial accident and all of a sudden the Range Rover getting the hell out of there.
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All of those bikers should have their licenses taken away and charged criminally with assault

eff them all
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Old Oct 1, 2013, 04:19 PM   #9
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A lot of people don't agree with you. In response to citizenzen.
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I watched the video this morning and had the opposite reaction.

No biker in that video "deserved" to be run down.
In that scenario, and I was being followed by bikers who had cut me off and having road rage with a family in my car, I would have doen whatever was necessary for their safety

I am a motocrycle rider as well but this is uncalled for
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Old Oct 1, 2013, 04:37 PM   #11
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The short clip leads me to believe this is a bunch of bikers thinking they own the road and being jerks.
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They were the instigators of the whole thing.
What would you do if you had a couple dozen bikers speeding after you, damaging your car, trying to open your door?
From what I recall from my viewing this morning, the bikers sped after him and damaged his car (and beat him) after he'd run over some of them and drove away.

I am in no way endorsing the bikers behavior. IMO, they could have used their video and his license number and taken that to the cops without the chase and beating.

However, I don't see the driver of the SUV as blameless. He did run over the bikers and left the scene. What could possibly have justified that?
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From what I recall from my viewing this morning, the bikers sped after him and damaged his car (and beat him) after he'd run over some of them and drove away.

I am in no way endorsing the bikers behavior. IMO, they could have used their video and his license number and taken that to the cops without the chase and beating.

However, I don't see the driver of the SUV as blameless. He did run over the bikers and left the scene. What could possibly have justified that?
It's more clear in the second article. After he original stopped, the gang surrounded his suv and attacked it, slashing at the tires and bashing it with their helmets. He then took of probably fearing for his family's safety. I think that is more than enough justification.
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In that scenario, and I was being followed by bikers who had cut me off and having road rage with a family in my car, I would have doen whatever was necessary for their safety

I am a motocrycle rider as well but this is uncalled for
I ride as well.

In the SUV drivers side of things, I would have called the state police, and just kept going until the Police showed up.

There is no way for bikes to stop a Range Rover uneless some of the bikers feel like being run over.
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From what I recall from my viewing this morning, the bikers sped after him and damaged his car (and beat him) after he'd run over some of them and drove away.

I am in no way endorsing the bikers behavior. IMO, they could have used their video and his license number and taken that to the cops without the chase and beating.

However, I don't see the driver of the SUV as blameless. He did run over the bikers and left the scene. What could possibly have justified that?
They're a thug biker gang that goes around doing stunts on the streets and trying to "take back the highways" without any regard for the safety of the public.

One of the bikers cut him off and jacked up on his brakes trying to get the SUV to stop in a "brake check" maneuver, basically trying to cause an accident. The SUV obviously couldn't stop in time and got bumped.

The guy in the SUV pulled over and stopped and then the biker and his buddies surrounded the car and started beating on his car. The guy had his wife and daughter in the car. He no doubt felt threatened as any normal person would do when being surrounded by a reckless gang of thug bikers. He then drove off to try to get away from being attacked.
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I ride as well.

In the SUV drivers side of things, I would have called the state police, and just kept going until the Police showed up.

There is no way for bikes to stop a Range Rover uneless some of the bikers feel like being run over.
The only reason why he stopped after fleeing was because his tires were punctured and were flat.
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They're a thug biker gang that goes around doing stunts on the streets and trying to "take back the highways" without any regard for the safety of the public.

One of the bikers cut him off and jacked up on his brakes trying to get the SUV to stop in a "brake check" maneuver, basically trying to cause an accident. The SUV obviously couldn't stop in time and got bumped.

The guy in the SUV pulled over and stopped and then the biker and his buddies surrounded the car and started beating on his car. The guy had his wife and daughter in the car. He no doubt felt threatened as any normal person would do when being surrounded by a reckless gang of thug bikers. He then drove off to try to get away from being attacked.
If that's the way it went down, then I have more sympathy for him.
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The only reason why he stopped after fleeing was because his tires were punctured and were flat.
True, he also failed to call the police as I understand. I would have called the police personally, and if my tires went flat, put that bitch in 4WD and floor it. It'll still go.

Not biker gangs or anything, but I do carry two handguns + ammo in my glovebox, so if I were in this situation, it would have been solved quickly. And I would have been uninjured.

Though I would never want it to come to t hat, I would just call the police.
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Karma's a bitch. They had it coming, I would've done the same thing if I were in the Land Rover.
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Looks like this isn't an isolated incident....



Bunch of freaking thugs......
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If that's the way it went down, then I have more sympathy for him.
The bikers are just lucky the guy in the car didn't have a gun, he would have been perfectly within his rights to shoot them too.
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If that's the way it went down, then I have more sympathy for him.
So what would you have done? Wife and kid in the car and you're being attacked and threatened by a group of literally hundreds of people.

These bikers are *******s, every weekend they roll around Harlem pulling stunts which endanger everyone, and causing and ungodly amount of noise.

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Looks like this isn't an isolated incident....

YouTube: video

Bunch of freaking thugs......
Not even close, these *******s pull this **** almost every weekend (though on a smaller scale).
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More video of these thugs..... One to note is the second to last video.... They were driving on the wrong side of the road into opposing traffic.....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

More madness.... 6:07.... The RR there moved over a bit because someone in the right lane opened their door. Guy enraged gets off the bike and smashes window and other joins it.....

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I'm going to reserve my judgment, cause it seems nobody knows what really happened and the video doesn't show beginning to end. IMO so far ..... I think both are at fault.

Being that said .........

As a rider myself, it takes all of my will power not to kick someone's ass when a driver puts my life in danger, and I ride mild compared to these guys you see on Youtube. Non riders wouldn't understand and are quick to assume everything is a motorbiker's fault.


Also, those who think a gun would solve anything. I know personally that some bikers who ride in groups carry guns, and some groups are just plain lawless and don't give a damn. Don't be stupid and think you can shoot your way out of a situation, cause you don't want to receive what you are dishing out.
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The bikers are just lucky the guy in the car didn't have a gun, he would have been perfectly within his rights to shoot them too.
my thoughts exactly, not sure where someone was run over in the vid? bumped maybe and then ok keep it moving they were slowing traffic down and they surrounded the vehicle, second scene one of them tried to open the car door? really and last one smashed the window I would've ran them all over with no remorse thugs .... the driver should've called the cops , one on one no problem but there are like 50 of them
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