iOS Are my iOS apps now 64 bit?

Sven11 said:

I'm just wondering if my iOS apps are 64 bit now after they've been updated to iOS 7 or if I missed something since I can't see any information in Xcode regarding how many bits my app has? Maybe I have to add another architecture, but my iPhone 5s just says "ARM", not "ARMvX" or something like that?

My current values are:



Guess "arm64" makes it 64 bit, so everything should be OK?

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All you need to do is change the Architecture build setting to “Standard Architectures (including 64-bit)," so you should be good.

Here is Apple's guide: https://developer.apple.com/LIBRARY/IOS/documentation/General/Conceptual/CocoaTouch64BitGuide/ConvertingYourAppto64-Bit/ConvertingYourAppto64-Bit.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40013501-CH3-SW1

How many bits my App has?

Well yes, since I can only see ARMv7 and V7s.
My first model iPhone 5 can run both of them.

From what I hear you are most often better off
compiling only for ARMv7 to save space.

Personally, I think if your app is not a gaming app or an app that uses a lot of CPU power - going to 64Bit will be a bit of a waste.

Sven11 said:

I'm just wondering if my iOS apps are 64 bit now after they've been updated to iOS 7 or if I missed something since I can't see any information in Xcode regarding how many bits my app has? Maybe I have to add another architecture, but my iPhone 5s just says "ARM", not "ARMvX" or something like that?

My current values are:



Guess "arm64" makes it 64 bit, so everything should be OK?

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What you want is a fat binary that includes both 32 bit and 64 bit versions of your code. It looks like arm64 IS the setting for 64 bit, so yes, your app should run in native 64 bit mode on the 5s and the new "iPad lite".

As the other poster said for most apps there is not a compelling reason to build a 64 bit version. You'll get wider registers so some "heavy lifting" math and vector processing will be faster, but most apps will not see a difference.

Not only valid ARCHs has to include arm64 but ARCHs does also. It should say armv7, armv7s, arm64.

When you change this setting the compiler will emit warnings for code that it believes not be 64-bit clean. You will almost certainly have dozens or even hundreds of warnings. If you've never seen any warnings for 64-bit issues then you've probably never turned on 64-bit.

Regarding whether apps run faster in 64-bit mode I don't know. Apple has seemed to claim that in general apps WILL run faster in 64-bit mode. All apps. Apparently the iOS libraries are present in both 32 and 64 bit versions on devices that can run in 64-bit mode. The 32-bit libraries are only loaded if some app needs them. If all apps on the device are in 64-bit mode then the 32-bit libraries will never need to load. And Apple says that would be a good thing.

For some reason building for 64-bit mode requires NOT building for iOS 5. So although I've fixed the code to compile clean for 64-bit mode for a few apps I haven't actually released an app that is compiled for 64-bit mode. Probably we'll see more and more 64-bit apps over the next six months to a year.

Tander said:

Personally, I think if your app is not a gaming app or an app that uses a lot of CPU power - going to 64Bit will be a bit of a waste.

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Yup, it must be a massive waste of time and effort to check a freakin box so it compiles to 64-bit. Even then, you'll probably have to do it sometime or another.

The file command on a Mac will tell you what architectures are in a binary.

adildacoolset said:

Yup, it must be a massive waste of time and effort to check a freakin box so it compiles to 64-bit. Even then, you'll probably have to do it sometime or another.

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He meant massive waste of space, and money, for every user that downloads it,
which, depending on the App, very well could be.

xArtx said:

He meant massive waste of space, and money, for every user that downloads it,
which, depending on the App, very well could be.

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Exactly that. I wasn't even talking about its' implementation.