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Kybd/mse?
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No offense, but like optical drives and Firewire, a keyboard and a mouse aren't exactly used in the professional space these days. Break the paradigm.
I DO think you nailed the packaging. How silly. My $12K HP at least came with the minimum keyboard and mouse to get the damn thing started (even though I use my Apple keyboard with it).
My theory is that Ive would've demanded there be a color-matched keyboard and mouse -- as the current white/silver Apple peripherals would look very out of place -- and Tim didn't want to create special keyboards and mice just for one Mac that has low sales numbers.
Pretty much this. Apple's peripherals are truthfully not very good anyway. The keyboard is passable, the mouse is terrible.
To each his own, of course, but I use a mechanical and cannot get over the shallowness of chiclet types. But yeah, the mice are terrible and have been since the single button days. The puck might've been the worst (sorry, echoout).
Definitely, they didn't want to throw in a mouse and keyboard as the packaging would be a whole lot bigger. And I like that!
More importantly though, most pros buying this computer would already be set up with their peripherals of choice.
I have a Logitech G500s mouse and some random cheap-but-nice keyboard that doesn't slay my fingers like the Mac keyboards. If I were to buy a Mac Pro and they included a keyboard and mouse, well it'd just mean one more Mac keyboard/mouse combo on eBay. Nice waste of resources.
I really like that they did away with the manuals and just gave you some nice photos!
More importantly though, most pros buying this computer would already be set up with their peripherals of choice.
I have a Logitech G500s mouse and some random cheap-but-nice keyboard that doesn't slay my fingers like the Mac keyboards. If I were to buy a Mac Pro and they included a keyboard and mouse, well it'd just mean one more Mac keyboard/mouse combo on eBay. Nice waste of resources.
I really like that they did away with the manuals and just gave you some nice photos!
I suppose they're going more along the Mac Mini route, as most professionals already have input devices, or are likely to buy some more specifically tailored to their needs.
Personally I like the Apple keyboard and mouse, but even so I'm happier for them not to bundle it as I already have three keyboards and a spare mouse. I just wish they'd release a pro (full-size) wireless keyboard, the current laptop style one isn't great if you want to use apps with tons of keyboard shortcuts, or 3d apps that like to use the keypad.
Personally I like the Apple keyboard and mouse, but even so I'm happier for them not to bundle it as I already have three keyboards and a spare mouse. I just wish they'd release a pro (full-size) wireless keyboard, the current laptop style one isn't great if you want to use apps with tons of keyboard shortcuts, or 3d apps that like to use the keypad.
No IBM Model M here, but I use a modern keyboard that is a reasonable facsimile
http://matias.ca/tactilepro4/
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA, you want headphone jack and power butting on a WORKSTATION in the front. Nice joke!
Those machines are turned on and usually never turned off. And they are NOT your multimedia centres to listen music. HHAHAHAHAHAHHHA
Apple targets very specific market and that market doesn't need these things
Nope, it's because the bean counters told him you save X amount of money per Mac Pro unit by having the box this big with no keyboard or mouse, and then they told him the target market will have mice and keyboards anyway.
Trust me, money money money is what it's ALL about on that one, they will be saving a massive amount on packaging, distribution, shipping, just by not including them, also they make more profit as the prices would be the same I bet even with mice and keyboards but their profit would take a hit.
Wow
I would love to see your Professional space
especially after you get your nMPmini,
Cables will be handing all over place
If you're buying a high-end system like the Mac Pro, buy a high-end keyboard to go with it. Treat your fingers to some Topre keyswitches.
I like the HHKB Pro 2 Type-S, as the aesthetics match the original Macintosh Keyboard.
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It's a shame that the aluminum models were a limited run.
I like the HHKB Pro 2 Type-S, as the aesthetics match the original Macintosh Keyboard.
It's a shame that the aluminum models were a limited run.
Folks, I think there's a simpler reason; they couldn't or didn't want to fit a keyboard and mouse in the box. The mouse is easy, but normally the keyboard is the wired big one, not the wireless. With either keyboard there's no good way to include it, without changing the simplicity, size and symmetry of the box. So they just decided to leave it out. The box is really small which highlights the size of the computer.
Additionally it would look obvious that they didn't come out with a black keyboard/mouse version, which I'm sure they don't intend to do because its such a small market. Better to just leave it out, nobody will care.
Additionally it would look obvious that they didn't come out with a black keyboard/mouse version, which I'm sure they don't intend to do because its such a small market. Better to just leave it out, nobody will care.
I'll toss another +1 onto the pile. I already have a "Magic Mouse" gathering dust in a drawer. As has been said many times, it's a fair bet the target audience for this computer already has a suite of input devices they use; if they don't, just add them to taste. All bases covered.
Reason why no Kybd/mse?
They don't fit into the pretty, little box. Packaging is really important to Apple.
They don't fit into the pretty, little box. Packaging is really important to Apple.
it's not as if the old mac pro included these items for free.
when configuring, they acted as credit towards other items if you wanted to do it like that (you could exchange a track pad for a keyboard etc. iirc)
in a way, it's better that they're not force selling the keyboard & mouse.. especially the mouse.
also, i think $2999.99 with no peripheral looks better from a buyer pov as opposed to $3099.99 with mouse & keyboard included.. same thing with the quad ram.. if you want to fill the 4th slot then add it at time of purchase to make the $3099.99 number.. or a keyboard or a mouse etc..
when configuring, they acted as credit towards other items if you wanted to do it like that (you could exchange a track pad for a keyboard etc. iirc)
in a way, it's better that they're not force selling the keyboard & mouse.. especially the mouse.
also, i think $2999.99 with no peripheral looks better from a buyer pov as opposed to $3099.99 with mouse & keyboard included.. same thing with the quad ram.. if you want to fill the 4th slot then add it at time of purchase to make the $3099.99 number.. or a keyboard or a mouse etc..