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Old Dec 22, 2013, 08:10 PM   #1
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My faith in people is restored.

found this tucked into the redbull boxes while walking by. I thought it was one those fake track bills so pulled it out and nope it was real it was a pas it on card. This year we are doing ok and I saw a homeless guy with a sign on the way in so I dropped it in his lap. made him nice and happy.
what made the whole thing funny is I found it and was using one of those self checkouts when I had to go to the cashier to get a coupon taken off and this guy and his wife who never use them swiped his debit card and accidentally paid for our food. They were at a loss so I checked with a text to the bank to make sure I had not paid for it and bought their stuff and cash back to make up the difference. what a crazy day.

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Old Dec 22, 2013, 11:50 PM   #2
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Nice.

But I would suggest that the easiest [and best] way to practice kindness is to just be kind.

It's not only free, but it has just as much impact.

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Old Dec 22, 2013, 11:53 PM   #3
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Homeless guy got drunk tonight.
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Old Dec 22, 2013, 11:59 PM   #4
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Homeless guy gets drunk most every night.
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 12:08 AM   #5
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Nice.

But I would suggest that the easiest [and best] way to practice kindness is to just be kind.

It's not only free, but it has just as much impact.

Peaces.
very true well said.

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Homeless guy got drunk tonight.
could be. But someone else could have found it that had lots of money and just pocketed it or they could have bought booze and drove drunk who knows?It made him happy and that was enough.
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 12:10 AM   #6
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It made him happy and that was enough.
Maybe instead of just getting drunk, that night he got drunk and got something to eat as well.
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 12:11 AM   #7
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Homeless guy got drunk tonight.
Or maybe he ate a decent meal and had a nice cup of coffee to warm him up on a cold night. Not every homeless person spends every penny they get on alcohol.
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 12:13 AM   #8
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Or maybe he ate a decent meal and had a nice cup of coffee to warm him up on a cold night. Not every homeless person spends every penny they get on alcohol.
yep. I was really surprised to find this anyway though I am good at spotting money that people have lost. I see videos and pictures of such things all the time. I thought it was one of those fake bills Christians hand out.
myself I think ti is a cool thing someone did and I was glad I could pass it on. I found their webpage I heard this group singing Christmas songs and walking around the store. I had no idea what they were doing.
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 02:28 AM   #10
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Homeless guy is reading this at home.
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 03:08 AM   #11
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Homeless guy went to a strip club tonight.
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Thats sad but could well be true. I'd rather prefer to see homeless guy buy a newspaper for a few bucks, educate himself about the current stock market and make some well planned strategic investments to end his misery. He had his future in his hands, but nope...
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Wait ... what?
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Thats sad but could well be true. I'd rather prefer to see homeless guy buy a newspaper for a few bucks, educate himself about the current stock market and make some well planned strategic investments to end his misery. He had his future in his hands, but nope...
I'm assuming I'm missing some sarcasm here. $20 isn't going to get you very far with investing...
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Old Dec 24, 2013, 10:07 AM   #15
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Faith (lack of) in humanity back to normal.
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Homeless guy went to a strip club tonight.
As an unrepentant cynic and misanthrope...even I find these posts pathetic.
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Agree completely.

To those who made these posts, seriously, why waste your breath and time with such.........misanthropic, trivial, banal, superficial and sarcastic posts? Really?

To the OP: A lovely generous gesture, very nicely thought through, and very well done.
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Agree completely.

To those who made these posts, seriously, why waste your breath and time with such.........misanthropic, trivial, banal, superficial and sarcastic posts? Really?
I'm curious.

Are you interested in a dialogue that will clarify the meaning behind my post?

Or would you prefer to just be outraged by it?

Because while I think you've misinterpreted the intent behind my words [and I can see why that might be the case], I'd hate to get between you and your umbrage.
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There is a hard truth in that. I watched a homeless guy try to talk the McDonald's management out of a sandwich. They refused, I gave him $5 but instead of buying a sandwich, he ran out the door I assume to buy some booze. Next time I'll buy the sandwich and hand it to him.
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I'm curious.

Are you interested in a dialogue that will clarify the meaning behind my post?

Or would you prefer to just be outraged by it?

Because while I think you've misinterpreted the intent behind my words [and I can see why that might be the case], I'd hate to get between you and your umbrage.
I'm not outraged, just disgusted. And I will say that in both the UK and the US, in right wing circles, a rhetoric of corrosive contempt towards the poor seems to be gaining a most unwelcome traction (and acceptability) in recent times. Some of the posts here seemed to further reflect such values and attitudes.

Nevertheless, if you intended irony, I missed it, so fair enough, please elaborate, as I am interested in reading what you wish to write, and I apologise if I misread your intent. I'll go further when I confess to surprise at what I assumed may have been behind your post, as normally, I find myself pretty much in agreement with a lot of what you write.

However, I was very struck by the difference in tone (and content) between the initial post and many of those which followed it. Indeed, given the original decent and thoughtful post of the OP, in what he wrote, how he wrote it and what he did, and the striking contrast with the snide snarky tone adopted by others, I thought a dissenting note needed to be sounded.
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I'm not outraged, just disgusted. And I will say that in both the UK and the US, in right wing circles, a rhetoric of corrosive contempt towards the poor seems to be gaining a most unwelcome traction (and acceptability) in recent times. Some of the posts here seemed to further reflect such values and attitudes.
Spot on. Some variation of they're a bunch of losers who reaped what they sewed, they don't deserve our hard earned tax dollars, and tough luck kid, you should of gotten conceived by better parents...
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I'm curious.

Are you interested in a dialogue that will clarify the meaning behind my post?

Or would you prefer to just be outraged by it?

Because while I think you've misinterpreted the intent behind my words [and I can see why that might be the case], I'd hate to get between you and your umbrage.
I'll go with outrage, disgust, and umbrage.
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Nevertheless, if you intended irony, I missed it, so fair enough, please elaborate, as I am interested in reading what you wish to write, and I apologise if I misread your intent. I'll go further when I confess to surprise at what I assumed may have been behind your post, as normally, I find myself pretty much in agreement with a lot of what you write.

However, I was very struck by the difference in tone (and content) between the initial post and many of those which followed it. Indeed, given the original decent and thoughtful post of the OP, in what he wrote, how he wrote it and what he did, and the striking contrast with the snide snarky tone adopted by others, I thought a dissenting note needed to be sounded.
It's the curse of my shorthand style. It sometimes leaves too much room for interpretation.

To begin with, I a very sympathetic to the homeless and the conditions in society that put so many in that situation. In my home town, the problem is rampant. Everywhere you go, you see people on street corners begging for money, pushing a grocery cart with their belongings or simply hopelessly slumped down on the sidewalk.

I believe that the problem requires all of society to come together, to pool our resources in order to provide at least a subsistence level of housing and food. But for whatever reason, we don't. I think people prefer to believe that the homeless lifestyle is a form of punishment—a prison without bars—for those whose incapable of measuring up to the American Dream.

So how does that reconcile with my previous post?

My post was not intended to condemn the homeless person. The [obviously flawed] intent behind it was to illustrate the persistent nature to the problem.

Even if homeless person is just going to use the money to buy alcohol and even if they just get drunk every day does that mean they don't deserve our assistance? Does that mean we should just let them slowly rot away on the street as some kind of punishment for their sins?

I don't believe we should. I think we can do better than that.

And I know that I can do better than that ambiguous post when it comes to conveying the message I'm intending to convey.

Please accept my apology for writing such a poor post.

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I'll go with outrage, disgust, and umbrage.
I know you can do better than that too.

Hopefully my post above will alleviate a bit of it.
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It's the curse of my shorthand style. It sometimes leaves too much room for interpretation.

To begin with, I a very sympathetic to the homeless and the conditions in society that put so many in that situation. In my home town, the problem is rampant. Everywhere you go, you see people on street corners begging for money, pushing a grocery cart with their belongings or simply hopelessly slumped down on the sidewalk.

I believe that the problem requires all of society to come together, to pool our resources in order to provide at least a subsistence level of housing and food. But for whatever reason, we don't. I think people prefer to believe that the homeless lifestyle is a form of punishment—a prison without bars—for those whose incapable of measuring up to the American Dream.

So how does that reconcile with my previous post?

My post was not intended to condemn the homeless person. The [obviously flawed] intent behind it was to illustrate the persistent nature to the problem.

Even if homeless person is just going to use the money to buy alcohol and even if they just get drunk every day does that mean they don't deserve our assistance? Does that mean we should just let them slowly rot away on the street as some kind of punishment for their sins?

I don't believe we should. I think we can do better than that.

And I know that I can do better than that ambiguous post when it comes to conveying the message I'm intending to convey.

Please accept my apology for writing such a poor post.

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I know you can do better than that too.

Hopefully my post above will alleviate a bit of it.
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Well said, and I thank you for your detailed post which clarifies matters considerably; as I mentioned earlier, I was somewhat surprised as I have usually found myself pretty much in agreement with the sentiments expressed in your posts, so this took me aback.

And, once again, to the OP: Very well said and very well done.
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There is a hard truth in that. I watched a homeless guy try to talk the McDonald's management out of a sandwich. They refused, I gave him $5 but instead of buying a sandwich, he ran out the door I assume to buy some booze. Next time I'll buy the sandwich and hand it to him.
As I've stated before, my wife tends to give to the homeless quite a bit (or did), I usually donate through Charity to assure that the money is being spent properly (although mostly to children/pet charities), but I told her that she could no longer give money, but had to offer food. She got called a "****ing bitch" once and that was the end of it.
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