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Old Jan 1, 2014, 12:35 PM   #1
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(Reuters) - A gay Los Angeles couple plans to exchange wedding vows on a flower-covered float trundling through Pasadena during the nationally televised Tournament of Roses Parade on Wednesday, capping a momentous year for same-sex marriage in the United States.

The planned nuptials of Danny Leclair, 45, and Aubrey Loots, 42, who have been together for 12 years and own a chain of hair salons, will mark the first same-sex marriage on a Rose Parade float in the 125-year history of the annual event, organizers say.

But it won't be the only wedding ever to have been performed on one of the Rose Parade's flower petal-bedecked floats on national television.

Wednesday's planned ceremony was preceded by two heterosexual couples tying the knot during separate processions in 1989 and last year.

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Yet the Pasadena Tournament of Roses Assn. has received complaints from people not in favor of using the Rose Bowl as a platform to proselytize for gay marriage. The Rose Bowl Facebook page received posts exhibiting anger, calling the wedding "unbiblical" and "highly offensive." One responder to Facebook said, I can't think of many things LESS appropriate for families and especially children. Its completely the wrong venue for a stunt like this.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ream-Come-True

So the parade has had heterosexual marriages before, and in this year's parade, one of the floats was an eHarmony float that celebrated heterosexual couples.

But when a homosexual couple wants to "join the parade" some people see that as "proselytizing".

Just one more example of the double standard that still exists.

One more note ... I watched the telecast on ABC. The gay float was not shown. The eHarmony float was ... as well as giving the eHarmony founder camera time in an interview.

America has once again been saved from the gay.

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Old Jan 1, 2014, 12:39 PM   #2
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 12:50 PM   #4
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It's 2014 and America still isn't ready for a gay float. Sad and pathetic. Maybe next year.
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It's 2014 and America still isn't ready for a gay float. Sad and pathetic. Maybe next year.
The float will be present. Should people have their eyelids stapled open and be forced to watch it even if they disagree?
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 01:58 PM   #6
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The float will be present. Should people have their eyelids stapled open and be forced to watch it even if they disagree?
It wasn't shown on the network that I watched.

Apparently they were looking out for America's eyelids.

Your stapler won't be necessary today.
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 02:12 PM   #7
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It wasn't shown on the network that I watched.

Apparently they were looking out for America's eyelids.

Your stapler won't be necessary today.


Like most any business, the network cares about their revenue.

If you're searching for humanitarians, you may be looking in the wrong place.

Gays are completely entitled to hold an opinion and ride the float.

What they and the network are not entitled to is immunity from people's reaction to that opinion.
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Old Jan 1, 2014, 02:34 PM   #8
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Like most any business, the network cares about their revenue.

If you're searching for humanitarians, you may be looking in the wrong place.

Gays are completely entitled to hold an opinion and ride the float.

What they and the network are not entitled to is immunity from people's reaction to that opinion.
Totally agree.

Likewise, I'm entitled to react to the reaction.

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Old Jan 1, 2014, 02:39 PM   #9
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And this is why society is stupid. Instead of explaining that some people are gay it turns into "Omg hide them from it! No one will no it exists if we don't see it!"
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It's 2014 and America still isn't ready for a gay float. Sad and pathetic. Maybe next year.
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Like most any business, the network cares about their revenue.

If you're searching for humanitarians, you may be looking in the wrong place.

Gays are completely entitled to hold an opinion and ride the float.

What they and the network are not entitled to is immunity from people's reaction to that opinion.
I'm confused about your response. All I was saying is that it's sad Americans are not yet ready, perhaps next year. When did I allude to forcing people to watch a gay float? Hold your horses.
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The float will be present. Should people have their eyelids stapled open and be forced to watch it even if they disagree?
what if anyone disagrees with heterosexual marriage? should they be forced to watch?
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And this is why society is stupid. Instead of explaining that some people are gay it turns into "Omg hide them from it! No one will no it exists if we don't see it!"
Couldn't the same be said for Phil Robertson and his opinion.

"And this is why society is stupid. Instead of explaining that some people agree with Phil Robertson it turns into "Omg boycott A&E! No one will know people like Phil exist if we don't see it!"

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what if anyone disagrees with heterosexual marriage? should they be forced to watch?
If the majority of gay Americans make their feelings known and do not tune into the Rose Parade because they oppose heterosexual marriage, that would be their prerogative.
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The float will be present. Should people have their eyelids stapled open and be forced to watch it even if they disagree?
Should I have to see breeder sites like eHarmony advertised in the parade?
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Should I have to see breeder sites like eHarmony advertised in the parade?
Turn it off. So easy even a caveman can do it.

And please, do explain what a "breeder site" is. I'm very curious as to what your answer is seeing as http://www.sfgate.com says the definition is "... derogatory slur used by gays to describe heterosexuals".

That's make you guilty of using discriminatory, bigot language in PRSI.
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Couldn't the same be said for Phil Robertson and his opinion.

"And this is why society is stupid. Instead of explaining that some people agree with Phil Robertson it turns into "Omg boycott A&E! No one will know people like Phil exist if we don't see it!"

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If the majority of gay Americans make their feelings known and do not tune into the Rose Parade because they oppose heterosexual marriage, that would be their prerogative.
Technarchy, do you understand that while you continue to argue technicalities, gay people are still at the losing end of the stick?

What does it take for you to gain some empathy?
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Turn it off. So easy even a caveman can do it.
Is this just another example of the double standard?

People who don't want to be exposed to the gay are forced to watch with their eyelids stapled open.

While people who don't want to be exposed to the straight should just change the channel.

Seems like a double standard to me.
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Is this just another example of the double standard?

Seems like a double standard to me.
It is, but he doesn't seem to get it.
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Turn it off. So easy even a caveman can do it.

And please, do explain what a "breeder site" is. I'm very curious as to what your answer is seeing as http://www.sfgate.com says the definition is "... derogatory slur used by gays to describe heterosexuals".

That's make you guilty of using discriminatory, bigot language in PRSI.
This is the problem. If it's something gay, it's okay to hide it, or remove it if it offends, but if something straight (and a bit bigoted in eHarmony's case) we get "change the channel/turn it off". It must be amazeballs to be so hypocritical.

Oh noes, the evil lesbian is oppressing hetero white men!! Someone, get the authorities *faints*.

You bet I'm guilty of calling offensive straight people as breeders. Just as I'm guilty of calling white people crackers (and BTW, I'm pasty ass white).

And honestly, if you reread the New Mutants, you'd know that Warlock there would be offended by your hypocrisy (and so would Doug).
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Technarchy, do you understand that while you continue to argue technicalities, gay people are still at the losing end of the stick?

What does it take for you to gain some empathy?
Understands it. Wants it that way. Hopes it never changes.

Obviously.
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And honestly, if you reread the New Mutants, you'd know that Warlock there would be offended by your hypocrisy (and so would Doug).
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If people boycott due to this are they bigots or just good Christians? Is there a difference?
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If people boycott due to this are they bigots or just good Christians? Is there a difference?
I believe the distinction is small, but then that would depend on your definition of "Christians".

For myself, I believe that the Christ myth holds many valuable lessons, once the religious BS is stripped away.

But that's just me.

I could probably say the same of The Good Samaritan.
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I believe the distinction is small, but then that would depend on your definition of "Christians".

For myself, I believe that the Christ myth holds many valuable lessons, once the religious BS is stripped away.

But that's just me.

I could probably say the same of The Good Samaritan.
^^^^^^ this, tons of Christians who have no issue with gay marriage

No one is forced to watch the rose parade, hetero couples married there before , if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander
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