CES 2014: Withings Shows Off 'Aura' Smart Sleep Tracking System - MacRumors Forums
Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > iOS Blog Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Jan 6, 2014, 12:50 AM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
CES 2014: Withings Shows Off 'Aura' Smart Sleep Tracking System




Withings, the company behind the Smart Activity Tracker and the Smart Body Analyzer is showing off its newest health monitoring device, the Aura Smart Sleep System. Aura, which consists of a bedside device with an ambient light, a sleep sensor, and an app, is designed to monitor and improve the sleeping experience.

The system's bedside device records information like noise pollution, room temperature, and light level, while the sleep sensor, which goes under a mattress, monitors sleep patterns, breathing cycles, and heart rate. The sensor is able to pick up the tiniest of movements, even under thick mattresses.

Quote:
Withings Aura is comprised of a soft and discreet sleep sensor that slips under your mattress and works in synchronization with the sensitively designed bedside device. Together, the two units record and monitor an array of factors to offer you a deep understanding of your sleeping experience. The sleep sensor focuses on personal patterns (body movements, breathing cycles and heart rate) and the bedside device screens your bedroom environment (noise pollution, room temperature and light levels).
In addition to recording information, the bedside device is able to offer customized light and sound to improve sleep, along with alarm clock functionality and personalized wake-up and fall-asleep programs.

For example, the multi-color LED in the bedside device is able to regulate melatonin, and sound programs are able to replicate the frequency and pattern of the circadian rhythm to stimulate users upon waking and relax them when sleeping.

The accompanying app allows users to visualize and compare their sleep cycles from night to night, monitoring triggers that cause poor sleep, and it also allows user to program their individual sleep programs.

Withings' Aura sleep system will be available in the spring of 2014 for $299.

Article Link: CES 2014: Withings Shows Off 'Aura' Smart Sleep Tracking System
MacRumors is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 01:00 AM   #2
acreichman
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
$300 for only sleep tracking?

I love the Withings activity tracker and scale but this is triple the price of the Pulse, which already tracks sleep, and even if you assume it's going to be much better at sleep tracking that's a steep price to pay for just that when the activity tracker will do it and track steps and heart rate. I was hoping for an improved Pulse that would be more sensitive and track more kinds of activity but this is pretty disappointing.
acreichman is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 01:00 AM   #3
macs4nw
macrumors 68020
 
macs4nw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: On Safari…..
This might help those with sleep apnea.
__________________
Due to my aversion to bragging and clichés, no words of wisdom to be found on this line.....
macs4nw is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 01:53 AM   #4
Nevaborn
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by macs4nw View Post
This might help those with sleep apnea.
Sadly not. This does nothing to offer respitory aid only ambience. Personally I already know my sleeps crap, this is just an expensive way of telling you.
Nevaborn is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 01:53 AM   #5
Sol
macrumors 65832
 
Sol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Australia
Send a message via Skype™ to Sol
This system could be programmed to trigger lucid dreams. Apparently to do this, colour lights need to be triggered when someone is in a certain stage of sleep (I think it is REM, the 5th stage of sleep). Since this device will monitor heart-rate and movement, it should be able to time the triggering of colour lights at just the right time, so as to alert the dreamer that he is in a dream without waking him.
__________________
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
Sol is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 02:21 AM   #6
MICHAELSD
macrumors 68000
 
MICHAELSD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NJ
This almost makes me believe they copied one of my inventions, which had the same name and similar functionality. Almost...
__________________
Managing/designing the Showtime DEXTER prop store!
15" Retina MacBook Pro (2012 base)
32GB gold iPhone 5s - 16GB iPad Air

Last edited by MICHAELSD; Jan 6, 2014 at 02:42 AM.
MICHAELSD is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 03:17 AM   #7
Rajani Isa
macrumors 6502a
 
Rajani Isa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by acreichman View Post
I love the Withings activity tracker and scale but this is triple the price of the Pulse, which already tracks sleep, and even if you assume it's going to be much better at sleep tracking that's a steep price to pay for just that when the activity tracker will do it and track steps and heart rate. I was hoping for an improved Pulse that would be more sensitive and track more kinds of activity but this is pretty disappointing.
The main benefit is the ambiance shaping effect.

But I don't think the sleep tracking would work for me. Not with my two dogs and cat. XD
Rajani Isa is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 07:15 AM   #8
Carlanga
macrumors 601
 
Carlanga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PR
Quote:
Originally Posted by macs4nw View Post
This might help those with sleep apnea.
How would a light show help sleep apnea patients?
Sleep apnea patient will either need a CPAP which is needed for proper respirations or surgery.

I guess the blue light part is good for winter months and usually blue lights machines that only do light are expensive by themselves.
__________________
☻ "A dream you dream alone is only a dream...
... A dream you dream together is reality." ☻
Carlanga is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 07:21 AM   #9
bmauter
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
I wonder if this will work on infants, so as to reduce SIDS? If so, $299 is a pittance.
bmauter is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 07:25 AM   #10
Koodauw
macrumors 68040
 
Koodauw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Madison
I would be interested in this product, but $300 seems a bit high.
Koodauw is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 10:36 AM   #11
chiefsilverback
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmauter View Post
I wonder if this will work on infants, so as to reduce SIDS? If so, $299 is a pittance.
What do you mean by 'work'? There's already a company that makes a motion sensor for infant beds that will sound an alarm if there's no movement (breathing) for 20 seconds.

We purchased one before our first son was born and it's still going strong with number 2. The speed you move when the alarm goes off for the first time is impressive but thankfully he'd only shifted himself to the corner of the crib and away from the sensor pads...
chiefsilverback is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 11:42 AM   #12
mdelvecchio
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by MICHAELSD View Post
This almost makes me believe they copied one of my inventions, which had the same name and similar functionality. Almost...
really? what patents? where can we view the product website or purchase one?
mdelvecchio is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 12:08 PM   #13
snebes
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
$300 for a device to tell me I am a heavy sleeper, I snore, and will probably be thrown off by my dog snoring and pushing me over on the bed so she can be in the warm spot I made....

Who knows what it will say if my dog starts to dream, she gets very noisy then
snebes is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 01:44 PM   #14
dysamoria
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Yay. Another product to exploit the millions of people who have sleep disorders caused by a fundamentally toxic social expectation norm.
dysamoria is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 04:02 PM   #15
sulpfiction
macrumors 68020
 
sulpfiction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Philadelphia Area
They say this will work on even the thickest of mattresses....But how about a Tempurpedic memory foam mattress? I have a queen Grand Bed and it is really thick, with 3 different levels of foam. I just can't see this picking up any movement through it at all. And no way possible it will pick up any breathing or heart rate info. Will it?
sulpfiction is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 06:52 PM   #16
Demon Hunter
macrumors 68020
 
Demon Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlanga View Post
How would a light show help sleep apnea patients?
Sleep apnea patient will either need a CPAP which is needed for proper respirations or surgery.

I guess the blue light part is good for winter months and usually blue lights machines that only do light are expensive by themselves.
Actually, what a sleep apnea sufferer needs (in addition to professional medical treatment) is data, information. It's the phantom of the night as they say.

I have apnea myself and any information I can get about my sleep is helpful to treatment which by the way is not only about CPAP/surgery! Many things affect sleep hygiene.

A poor man's alternative to something like this is the Sleep Cycle Alarm Clock app. For a buck that app that can do wonders.
Demon Hunter is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 07:05 PM   #17
demodave
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Lubbock, TX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevaborn View Post
Sadly not. This does nothing to offer respitory aid only ambience. Personally I already know my sleeps crap, this is just an expensive way of telling you.
Why would you state that this "can't help"? Even if the monitoring only allows a person with sleep apnea to become aware that they have the problem, it might encourage them to seek more corrective help. By providing that guidance, this device could "help" them. It does have a "sensor".

(I have no stake in this, but I find your comment too closed-ended/minded. Many who suffer from sleep apnea are not aware that they suffer it.)
__________________
15" MBP, 2.66 GHz Core i&, 2 GB 1067 MHz DDR3, running OS 10.6.6
Mac Mini, 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3, running OS X Server 10.6.6
demodave is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 09:11 PM   #18
Carlanga
macrumors 601
 
Carlanga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demon Hunter View Post
Actually, what a sleep apnea sufferer needs (in addition to professional medical treatment) is data, information. It's the phantom of the night as they say.

I have apnea myself and any information I can get about my sleep is helpful to treatment which by the way is not only about CPAP/surgery! Many things affect sleep hygiene.

A poor man's alternative to something like this is the Sleep Cycle Alarm Clock app. For a buck that app that can do wonders.
So you get the sleep data from it; then what? You should know what foods alcohol, lying to the side, etc already.
The CPAP/APAP some will monitor humidity and monitor breathing.
At the end I fail to see the need to spend money on this after diagnosis, but I will appreciate and hear what you would consider to make it more beneficial for sleep apnea treatment?
__________________
☻ "A dream you dream alone is only a dream...
... A dream you dream together is reality." ☻
Carlanga is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 10:45 PM   #19
captain kaos
macrumors 65816
 
captain kaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sydney
How would this differentiate movement from 2 people sleeping in bed?
__________________
I do PC, Linux & .
Need a photographer in Sydney? Visit me at www.creativeninja.com.au
captain kaos is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 6, 2014, 11:41 PM   #20
leftoverbacon
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
This works well for me.

http://24-7.motionx.com/

and for only $0.99 on iTunes.
leftoverbacon is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 7, 2014, 02:43 AM   #21
macs4nw
macrumors 68020
 
macs4nw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: On Safari…..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlanga View Post
How would a light show help sleep apnea patients? Sleep apnea patient will either need a CPAP which is needed for proper respirations or surgery…..
It's not the light show part that could be beneficial to sleep apnea sufferers of course, but the unit could conceivably be programmed to gently rouse you from sleep, if and when a cessation of breathing was detected.

But agreed, not a replacement for a CPAP unit. The better units of the latter by the way, are quite expensive.
__________________
Due to my aversion to bragging and clichés, no words of wisdom to be found on this line.....
macs4nw is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 7, 2014, 02:49 AM   #22
Sol
macrumors 65832
 
Sol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Australia
Send a message via Skype™ to Sol
It seems like new products like this come out to make you all feel like you have some problem that needs to be fixed. Not everyone sleeps the recommended 7.5 hours and everyone has different reasons for this. No device will magically give you more time to sleep. I suspect that if anyone has any success with this it will be because they follow the instructions and start sleeping when they should, instead of staying up reading MacRumours in the hope that free Mac Pros get announced.
__________________
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
Sol is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 7, 2014, 05:05 AM   #23
Nevaborn
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by demodave View Post
Why would you state that this "can't help"? Even if the monitoring only allows a person with sleep apnea to become aware that they have the problem, it might encourage them to seek more corrective help. By providing that guidance, this device could "help" them. It does have a "sensor".

(I have no stake in this, but I find your comment too closed-ended/minded. Many who suffer from sleep apnea are not aware that they suffer it.)
I have suffered from this so speak from first hand experience, that's why I stated it.

----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by macs4nw View Post
It's not the light show part that could be beneficial to sleep apnea sufferers of course, but the unit could conceivably be programmed to gently rouse you from sleep, if and when a cessation of breathing was detected.

But agreed, not a replacement for a CPAP unit. The better units of the latter by the way, are quite expensive.
This isnt designed to be able to wake you or disturb you intentionally though, it is simply designed to monitor and if anything help relax the person via light therapy.

even if this is designed to wake you I sincerely doubt its effectiveness. In fact, giving the varying thicknesses of mattresses with some being very thick I call in to question the overall effectiveness of this product in any sense. Like others have said can it differentiate between two people and also what about types of mattress, some are stiffer or softer than others, does it allow for this ? as these factors effect sleep.

I may sound overly picky but these aren't cheap products and make claims of being able to help you. tbh a £0.69 app and a night light would be cheaper and just as productive I am sure.
__________________
We Watch Because We Care
Nevaborn is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 7, 2014, 09:38 AM   #24
Demon Hunter
macrumors 68020
 
Demon Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlanga View Post
So you get the sleep data from it; then what? You should know what foods alcohol, lying to the side, etc already.
The CPAP/APAP some will monitor humidity and monitor breathing.
At the end I fail to see the need to spend money on this after diagnosis, but I will appreciate and hear what you would consider to make it more beneficial for sleep apnea treatment?
I agree, there are the basic things like caffeine, alcohol which we should just know already. But thats still just guesswork without some real information. For example there are sleep events which don't register as full apneas which still interrupt deep REM sleep. Making adjustments to room temperature, bed position, light, etc. could possibly help reduce those events. More of a supplement than anything else.

My CPAP has humidity controls and it keeps track of my apneas in memory for my healthcare provider; I can't access that data though (I can only ask for a graph printout when I see the doc) so it would be nice to have some more control over that.

At least in my case there's never a perfect CPAP mask/device either. It's always uncomfortable or inconvenient in some way, so if this alleviates that, I could see another benefit there.

Lots of "maybes" though and I certainly don't have $300 to find out if it's worth it!
Demon Hunter is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 7, 2014, 03:09 PM   #25
rbrian
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Looking at that picture I see a full size roll mat, with a gigantic, scary blue light hovering over my head! I'd never get to sleep with that towering over me! Then I see the iPhone, and realise my sense of scale is off...

Anyway, I don't really see the point of this when there are so many wristbands, and apps that use the M7 and make the wristbands close to obsolete. I use Sleep Cycle, which I only got because it was the free app of the week a few months ago. Despite my scepticism, the variable alarm timer has helped me wake up better every day since. It's worth much more than 69p.
__________________
2011 11" Air i5 1.6/4/128; 2011 Mac mini; iPad mini retina 128GB; iPhone 5s 64GB; Apple TV3
rbrian is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > iOS Blog Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
CES 2014: Holi Smart Lamp Coming to U.S. in March MacRumors iOS Blog Discussion 31 Jan 28, 2014 02:16 PM
CES 2014: Apple's Competition in the Smart Watch Arena MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 201 Jan 24, 2014 08:48 AM
CES 2014: Voyce is a Health-Tracking Smart Collar for Dogs MacRumors iOS Blog Discussion 28 Jan 12, 2014 01:29 PM
CES 2014: Kolibree Debuts Smart Toothbrush to Track Brushing Habits MacRumors iOS Blog Discussion 26 Jan 7, 2014 06:53 AM
CES 2013: Withings Debuts New Smart Activity Tracker MacRumors iOS Blog Discussion 8 Jan 7, 2013 04:37 AM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:26 PM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC