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Old Feb 6, 2014, 09:55 PM   #26
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Please, are we still seeing thumbnails after swtiching apps on beta 5? The delay is really frustrating to me
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Old Feb 7, 2014, 04:14 AM   #27
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Voice control button isn't transpence :d
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Old Feb 7, 2014, 04:54 AM   #28
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I have the beta on my iPad Air and my iPhone 5S. It is really very stable. No reboots, no Safari crashes, everything works great.
I think Apple fans will be extremely pleased with it.
what about tabs reloading? is it fixed?
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Old Feb 7, 2014, 04:57 AM   #29
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what about tabs reloading? is it fixed?
It depends on how much free RAM is available. It may reload tabs if the amount is insufficient.
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Old Feb 7, 2014, 05:05 AM   #30
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It depends on how much free RAM is available. It may reload tabs if the amount is insufficient.
Yeah well on 7.0.x you can hardly load more than two tabs no matter what. That has nothing to do with ram, just bad memory management. I reckon that's fixed, right? Otherwise it'd be a crucial fail.
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Old Feb 7, 2014, 09:52 AM   #31
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what about tabs reloading? is it fixed?
No. It's a little bit better but not fixed. As far as I can remember we always had this issue (more or less) in previous iOS versions too..
If I have nothing else loaded, I can successfully open 4 tabs with the following sites: the verge, apple insider, spiegel.de and yahoo.com without refreshing.
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Old Feb 7, 2014, 11:20 AM   #32
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Sounds great.

I really look forward to not having a battery that sometimes jump from 45% to 20% in 2 minutes.

Also, my iPhone 5 quite often goes from 15% to turning off, as if battery was depleted.

Hurry up Apple!
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Old Feb 7, 2014, 11:32 AM   #33
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Beta 5 is the most stable iOS 7.1 build so far. Beta 3 seemed ok with a few crashes here and there but beta 4 crashed a lot. I seem to think GM should be out in a week or two. I have not had an app crash on me yet...
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Old Feb 7, 2014, 11:36 AM   #34
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Sounds great.

I really look forward to not having a battery that sometimes jump from 45% to 20% in 2 minutes.

Also, my iPhone 5 quite often goes from 15% to turning off, as if battery was depleted.

Hurry up Apple!
It's not iOS' fault. How do I know that? I've experienced the same thing for the last two or more weeks. So I took my iPhone 5 for a checkup (it was over one year old). Battery was great, out of 1440mAh I had 1180mAh left, it is pretty great.

Today they told me that there was a problem with charging, thus they replaced my old iPhone with a new one.

My advice to you is to restore your phone as new to 7.0.4 to check if it is really hardware problem and then take it to Apple, if you have warranty.
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Old Feb 7, 2014, 02:44 PM   #35
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Agreed! Battery is a big improvement too. Can't wait for the GM!!!
Thats good news have you found real improvement in the battery life while using the IOS 7.1? As this is what i am most concerned about can you please share.
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Old Feb 8, 2014, 07:55 AM   #36
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It's not iOS' fault. How do I know that? I've experienced the same thing for the last two or more weeks. So I took my iPhone 5 for a checkup (it was over one year old). Battery was great, out of 1440mAh I had 1180mAh left, it is pretty great.

Today they told me that there was a problem with charging, thus they replaced my old iPhone with a new one.

My advice to you is to restore your phone as new to 7.0.4 to check if it is really hardware problem and then take it to Apple, if you have warranty.
I'm planning on returning it because of great deals of dust in the camera anyways, but I'll this to the repair list, so I'll hopefully get a new one.

Thanks
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Old Feb 8, 2014, 08:50 AM   #37
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Yes, it is rock solid,,,,and hopefully puts an end to the tonne load of dumb threads people are starting here. Never seen so many silly threads on Macrumors in a long time.
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Old Feb 8, 2014, 09:52 AM   #38
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iOS 7.1 is really what Apple should release in September. Stability and Smoothness have come back to iOS 6 level.

But one thing I don't understand is that older devices such as iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 are still not optimized. Some stuttering animations and battery drain can prove why. You can see a great difference when tap the Search box in iPhone 5, there is a frame drop comparing to a butter smooth animation in iPhone 5S. Hopefully older devices will get proper optimization soon.

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Old Feb 8, 2014, 10:28 AM   #39
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There wasn't enough time..
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iOS 7.1 is really what Apple should release in September. Stability and Smoothness have come back to iOS 6 level.

But one thing I don't understand is that older devices such as iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 are still not optimized. Some stuttering animations and battery drain can prove why. You can see a great difference when tap the Search box in iPhone 5, there is a frame drop comparing to a butter smooth animation in iPhone 5S. Hopefully older devices will get proper optimization soon.

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The current ios never works as good on older devices as it does on the current most powerful device (5S). It's been like this since the iPhone began. Beta 5 runs great on the 5 though, a few frame drops are to be expected, no? That's the price users pay for not upgrading to the newest device.
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Old Feb 8, 2014, 10:36 AM   #41
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The current ios never works as good on older devices as it does on the current most powerful device (5S). It's been like this since the iPhone began. Beta 5 runs great on the 5 though, a few frame drops are to be expected, no? That's the price users pay for not upgrading to the newest device.
Windows 8 has the same requirements as Windows 7 does, which are the same as Windows Vista. Heck, since Vista to 8.1 the only system requirement change is support for a specific CPU instruction set that was included in most machines made since something like 2005.

Meanwhile on the ARM front, the WP8 OS runs on $40 hardware. Smoothly, without lag or stutter.

If Apple wanted to make iOS 7 work on an iPhone 4 without lag, they could.
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Old Feb 8, 2014, 11:13 AM   #42
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Windows 8 has the same requirements as Windows 7 does, which are the same as Windows Vista. Heck, since Vista to 8.1 the only system requirement change is support for a specific CPU instruction set that was included in most machines made since something like 2005.



Meanwhile on the ARM front, the WP8 OS runs on $40 hardware. Smoothly, without lag or stutter.



If Apple wanted to make iOS 7 work on an iPhone 4 without lag, they could.
Well I guess that I will never update iOS again on my 5S. I updated my old 4S a lot and after 2 years I regretted not to stay with iOS 5.
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Windows 8 has the same requirements as Windows 7 does, which are the same as Windows Vista. Heck, since Vista to 8.1 the only system requirement change is support for a specific CPU instruction set that was included in most machines made since something like 2005.

Meanwhile on the ARM front, the WP8 OS runs on $40 hardware. Smoothly, without lag or stutter.

If Apple wanted to make iOS 7 work on an iPhone 4 without lag, they could.
Windows 8's requirements are not the same as Vista's..... they're slightly higher and Microsoft does not want people to upgrade old PC's to 8.1.
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Windows 8 has the same requirements as Windows 7 does, which are the same as Windows Vista. Heck, since Vista to 8.1 the only system requirement change is support for a specific CPU instruction set that was included in most machines made since something like 2005.

Meanwhile on the ARM front, the WP8 OS runs on $40 hardware. Smoothly, without lag or stutter.

If Apple wanted to make iOS 7 work on an iPhone 4 without lag, they could.
My point exactly
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Old Feb 8, 2014, 12:48 PM   #45
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is the beta 5 on iPhone 4 a bit better than 7.0.4 now? My iPhone 4 is getting so slow that I'm not sure if I'll be able to manage to wait till the iPhone 6.
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Windows 8's requirements are not the same as Vista's..... they're slightly higher and Microsoft does not want people to upgrade old PC's to 8.1.
Windows 8 does add the SSE2/PAE/NX requierement, but the vast majority of systems that could run Windows 7 reasonably well meets it.
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Old Feb 8, 2014, 01:13 PM   #47
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Thats good news have you found real improvement in the battery life while using the IOS 7.1? As this is what i am most concerned about can you please share.
It's back to iOS 6 levels for me, maybe a little better.
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Concur, my battery life is the best it's ever been w/beta 5.
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Old Feb 8, 2014, 02:57 PM   #49
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Looking the sound of the improvements, not too long to wait!
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Old Feb 8, 2014, 02:58 PM   #50
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Can't wait for the public release. Browsing on Safari and Multitasking are painful at times on my iPad Mini.
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