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Old Apr 7, 2014, 01:06 PM   #1
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Intel Expands Thunderbolt Networking with PC Support for Ultra-Fast Connections




Intel today updated its Thunderbolt connectivity with Thunderbolt Networking, allowing a PC and a Mac to be paired for the first time using a Thunderbolt cable, enabling fast file sharing with a throughput of up to 10 Gbps.

Drivers in Mavericks have allowed two Macs to connect via Thunderbolt since the operating system was released in 2013, but now a Mac can also be paired with a PC or two PCs can be paired with one another.

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Thunderbolt Networking, emulating an Ethernet connection environment, provides 10GbE throughput between two computers. Already released on the Mac with OS X Mavericks*, a PC driver will soon be available to connect two PCs together or a PC to a Mac, adding a new level of workflow flexibility for media professionals. By offering simple and fast file sharing, Thunderbolt Networking enables backup or upgrade across two computers like never before, using existing cables and connectors.
Connecting two computers via Thunderbolt is similar to connecting them via standard Ethernet, but the file transfer speeds are far faster with the former. Intel is currently demoing Thunderbolt Networking at NAB 2014 and expects to release the PC driver soon.

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Old Apr 7, 2014, 01:09 PM   #2
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Awesome. Will be even better once the price of cables drops.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 01:14 PM   #3
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hold the phone!

so wait, will I be able to use my iMac screen for my gaming rig now???
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 01:19 PM   #4
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Great news, we can no move off the PCs even faster to the Mac. Yeehaw!

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Old Apr 7, 2014, 01:25 PM   #5
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This will be great for all my PC's with Thunderbolt ports. </sarcasm>
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 01:27 PM   #6
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This is great, the more visibility thunderbolt gets in the PC space, the more devices will be made, the more mass produced the cables etc will be, the lower the prices will be.

I'm just waiting for a cheap thunderbolt hard drive caddy to become available. 1k+ on a Promise is far too much.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 01:54 PM   #7
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Intel is finally given in and now prices on TB will start to come down.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 01:57 PM   #8
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Wow. I literally have my iMac plugged in right now to my NUC via Thunderbolt. I guess I am of the small minority who has actually been waiting for this to happen.

So this is what it feels like to belong to the "1%" of something.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 01:58 PM   #9
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so wait, will I be able to use my iMac screen for my gaming rig now???
Doubt it. Don't get your hopes up.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 02:02 PM   #10
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Would be interesting to see a Thunderbolt switch. I work in a school district and every year, all of the student & staff computers get reimaged. Reimaging would be so much faster over Thunderbolt. And for those who are interested, my district uses Deploystudio
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 02:07 PM   #11
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How many Pcs have thunderbolt though?
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 02:25 PM   #12
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This will be great for all my PC's with Thunderbolt ports. </sarcasm>
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How many Pcs have thunderbolt though?
If we're talking about desktop PCs, it should be very easy to add an adapter card for the TB ports. The problem is that not many companies are willing to do this because the market for it is so small.

Asus has a TB2 adapter for their motherboards here on Amazon for 70$ shipped.

Intel need to step up here to release the proper TB2 cards.

Considering the upcoming USB 3.1 standard, Intel cannot afford to be greedy about this. Apple should've made TB a open licensing program instead of giving it all to Intel.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 02:43 PM   #13
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If we're talking about desktop PCs, it should be very easy to add an adapter card for the TB ports.
My sense is that the "add a card" strategy isn't what it once was -- compared to 15 years ago, systems mostly come with onboard interfaces for the majority of uses, and those deploying I think are less inclined to hassle with adding cards. And the laptop::desktop ratio has changed dramatically, with most laptops not providing anything like a PCMCIA/PC-Card/ExpressCard expansion slot, and many desktops even offering very limited expansion potential. But I could be wrong.[/quote]

So this is IP over Thunderbolt? My immediate thought was to wonder if it would be any viable than IP over FireWire, ie. if it would work, or if like the latter (and ExpressCard) it would mostly just lead to kernel panics.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 03:08 PM   #14
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This will be great for all my PC's with Thunderbolt ports. </sarcasm>
I think you wanted to use the </clueless> tag?

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Old Apr 7, 2014, 03:17 PM   #15
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So will Thunderbolt replace ethernet cables then? ...sounds expensive.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 03:42 PM   #16
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Too bad 10GB ethernet chipsets are still so expensive (hundreds).

A $5 copper Cat7 cable is so much cheaper than a $40 thunderbolt.

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As far as outright replacing ethernet goes - it wouldn't happen for a long time. The topology choices are far too limiting for major networks. Still - it's nice to have extra connection options. Many network admins still carry around serial cables for those "just in case" scenarios when they need them. Options are nice
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So will Thunderbolt replace ethernet cables then? ...sounds expensive.
Probably not, but if you compare to 10GbE stuff Thunderbolt is dirt cheap. It's great to get 10Gb/s networking out of the box. Normally it's unavailable on laptops, and the PCIe card required will set you back $500 or so. Per computer (not including cables).
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 03:55 PM   #18
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This will be great for all my PC's with Thunderbolt ports. </sarcasm>
lol. Also don't forget the PC will require a reboot for device detection
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 04:34 PM   #19
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So this is what it feels like to belong to the "1%" of something.
The fact that you have a Mac, already put's you in the in the 1% for worldwide income. I mean, heck your mac's value alone is in the top 50%. Check it out. http://www.globalrichlist.com/
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This is great, the more visibility thunderbolt gets in the PC space, the more devices will be made, the more mass produced the cables etc will be, the lower the prices will be.

I'm just waiting for a cheap thunderbolt hard drive caddy to become available. 1k+ on a Promise is far too much.
Ah yes, but the Pegasus units are more than simple storage. I hear you on price, but you must realise that the high-level RAID controllers in them demand a certain price markup accordingly:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=18965701
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 04:47 PM   #21
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How many Pcs have thunderbolt though?
I've seen some PC laptops include Thunderbolt, but to be honest, Thunderbolt seems to be the new FireWire. For better or worse.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 05:35 PM   #22
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Thunderbolt was a missed opportunity. It's superior to USB in every way and yet nobody is using it.
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Thunderbolt was a missed opportunity. It's superior to USB in every way and yet nobody is using it.
I'm sure a lot of Mac users are using it ( I do exclusively ) and from the few Windows PC people I know they wish they had it.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 07:05 PM   #24
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How long can optical Thunderbolt cables be? I know ethernet can be up to 100m. If optical Thunderbolt can go longer, that may one reason to use TB instead of ethernet.
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Old Apr 7, 2014, 07:22 PM   #25
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Yes! Put that stuff on the mass "Wintel" market, get everyone in the U.S. and China to make Thunderbolt stuff, and everything Thunderbolt will be way cheaper. Just like how USB wifi cards are cheaper than other types only because they're more popular for some reason. You can (no joke) buy them from Chinese eBay sellers for $2 with free shipping.

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lol. Also don't forget the PC will require a reboot for device detection
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so wait, will I be able to use my iMac screen for my gaming rig now???
You can already do that as long as you have DisplayPort output (or DVI/HDMI that you can adapt to DisplayPort). Thunderbolt ports double as regular old DisplayPort.
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