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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:18 PM   #1
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High Definition iTunes Music Downloads May Be on the Horizon




Earlier this week, a report suggested Apple was planning a "dramatic overhaul" of its iTunes Music store to combat declining music downloads, which could include an on-demand streaming music service and an Android version of iTunes.

Apple may also be planning to add high resolution audio downloads to iTunes as part of the revamp, allowing users to download lossless 24-bit audio files. According to music blogger Robert Hutton, who cites an unspecified source, Apple is going to roll out hi-res iTunes music downloads in early June, possibly at WWDC.
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For several years, Apple have been insisting that labels provide files for iTunes in 24 bit format - preferably 96k or 192k sampling rate. So they have undeniably the biggest catalog of hi-res audio in the world.

And the Led Zeppelin remasters in high resolution will be the kick off event - to coincide with Led Zep in hi-res, Apple will flip the switch and launch their hi-res store via iTunes - and apparently, it will be priced a buck above the typical current file prices.

That's right - Apple will launch hi-res iTunes in two months.
Apple has been working on offering music in a 24-bit format for several years, with a 2011 report suggesting the company was in talks with record labels to increase the quality of iTunes Music. Currently, Apple sells audio files on iTunes in 16-bit lossy AAC format encoded at 256 kbps to minimize file size.

High-definition 24-bit downloads are said to offer better detail, greater depth, and a deeper bass response compared to traditional 16-bit music downloads, but the file sizes are much larger.

Though Apple only offers 16-bit audio files at present, the company does encourage artists to submit music in a 24-bit 96kHz resolution, which it uses to "create more accurate encodes." Apple accepts the audio files as part of its Mastered for iTunes program, an initiative that has produced higher quality music for the iTunes Store. Because Apple has already accepted 24-bit files for years, it does, presumably, have a large catalog of high quality audio files that could be offered for sale, reportedly at a premium of $1 over traditional iTunes tracks.

Hi-res audio has been gaining popularity in recent years, with music sites such as HDtracks securing deals with multiple major record labels. Recently, musician and song writer Neil Young launched a Kickstarter project for the PonoPlayer, a $399 digital music player designed to play high resolution audio files.

Thus far, the project has earned over $5.7 million, suggesting there is indeed a sizable demand for hi-res audio. Should Apple choose to begin selling 24-bit audio tracks, it could quickly dominate competing sites given its existing user base and boost its digital downloads by appealing to audiophiles unhappy with the current quality of iTunes tracks.

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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:21 PM   #2
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So, they want to charge a PREMIUM on top of their already "premium priced" music? They're already one of the more expensive music stores.

They should be swapping the old low bitrate music for free with the higher better quality.

Do i have to buy all my music AGAIN? do i have to pay a premiumm upgrade fee just to get better quality of the same music?

Sounds like a desperate money grab
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:21 PM   #3
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we bought zeppelin on

vinyl
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8-track
cassette
cd
mini disc
sa cd
hd dvd
blueray
mp3
m4a
aiff
wav
ringtone
flac
and now they want to make a new format ?!

No Thanks!
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So, they want to charge a PREMIUM on top of their already "premium priced" music? They're already one of the more expensive music stores.

They should be swapping the old low bitrate music for free with the higher better quality.

Do i have to buy all my music AGAIN? do i have to pay a premiumm upgrade fee just to get better quality of the same music?
Tell that to the music labels not Apple.
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:22 PM   #5
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That sounds awesome (no pun intended), but a buck above the normal price? That's harsh...
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:22 PM   #6
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I thought to really take advantage of higher fidelity, the player also needs to have a high quality chip.

Would the iPhone/iPod's DAC be able to handle the bump in quality?
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:22 PM   #7
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Here's to hoping they allow upgrades to the 24bit quality via iTunes match.
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:23 PM   #8
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we bought zeppelin on

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hd dvd
blueray
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m4a
aiff
wav
ringtone
flac
and now they want to make a new format ?!

No Thanks!
No reason for it to be a new format. ALAC does 24-bit already
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:23 PM   #9
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An android version of iTunes?
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:23 PM   #10
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Only a fool would by 24/192 "hi-res" files. It's placebo.
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:23 PM   #11
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finally...
looking forward to that, i just hope that the price is reasonable. i'd love to pay a bit more for a HD option on iTunes Match.
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:24 PM   #12
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192k???

Sorry, but 192k sampling rate is TOTAL overkill and simply a waste of space, even if you plug in your Mac/ future iPhone with 192k audio support into the best DAC/amplifier/speakers out there ...

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I wonder how this affects iTunes match - which matches your music to 256 Kbps AAC even if its a lower quality to begin with.

If they start adding higer-res versions of songs, will we see a more expensive iTunes match "premium"? I'd be up for paying more than $24.99/year to get full lossless audio tracks.

Though I suppose that would only apply to music not purchased on iTunes because you'd only get the quality you pay for via iTunes purchases.....

Meh, I'm starting to get irritated with owning music. Sucks too - used to have such a nice CD collection. If individual songs will cost a full $1 more now, what will that do to album prices? Double? Are we seriously going to be paying $20+ for a 10-12 song album?

Its insane - the price difference between DVD and Blu-Ray is no where near that stark - a $5-$8 difference. I might be inclined to pay $14.99 for a higher quality album versus $9.99. But any higher and I'm out - sign me up for iTunes radio or some streaming service.

Owning music is going the way of the birds. Oh - and really looking forward to increasing the file size of my music while we still are stuck on 16GB base storage for our iDevices....you up the quality and file size, you need to up our storage as well.
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:25 PM   #14
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So basically for the average user, Apple will be saying "Here, you can buy the old version of the song for $1.29 OR for $2.00 you can buy the exact same version that will likely sound exactly the same to you, but will have HD next to it and take up more space on your iPod."

Essentially they are the salesman off of Family Guy.
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:25 PM   #15
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I"d like to see them putting stuff out there in multi-channel format. Many people listen to music over Apple TVs, and many ATVs are hooked up to surround sound systems.
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Just the same old industry tactic that's been going on for decades. Sell them music they already purchased on a "new format". No thanks. 16-bit/256k is damn good and I can barely the difference between iTunes and the CD 5% of the time.

This is why streaming is the feature. Negates all of this nonsense.
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Only a fool would by 24/192 "hi-res" files. It's placebo.
I find that people who have spent their lives listening to music through crummy laptop speakers often say similar things.
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:26 PM   #18
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So, they want to charge a PREMIUM on top of their already "premium priced" music? They're already one of the more expensive music stores.

They should be swapping the old low bitrate music for free with the higher better quality.

Do i have to buy all my music AGAIN? do i have to pay a premiumm upgrade fee just to get better quality of the same music?

Sounds like a desperate money grab
I'm guessing it'll be like the 128--256 transition. Offer an upgrade fee, then later, make it the norm.
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I really hope that these high-res audio files are available to us iTunes Matchers. I'd even pay another £10 a year to have access to them...
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I find that people who have spent their lives listening to music through crummy laptop speakers often say similar things.
You'll find people with high end headphone setups like mine saying the same thing.

See what you get for assuming what I listen through? I don't even own a laptop.

For $2 a song, Apple is out of their mind.
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Old Apr 10, 2014, 04:28 PM   #21
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Looking forward to this but do I have buy all my albums and songs again? I hope not
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Only a fool would by 24/192 "hi-res" files. It's placebo.
I don't trust the industry to deliver me useful 24/192 "hi-res' files when they can't even give me good 16/44.1 normal res files.

On the flip side, maybe they'll stop dynamically compressing the hell out of the music for the "hi-res" files. There's not a need for 24/192 to do this (16/44.1 is plenty), but maybe it'll just come along for the ride. I know, I know, pipe dream. But sometimes dreaming is fun.

I'd be happy with lossless 16/44.1, but properly mixed. I'd pay an extra buck per song just for that.
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Just the same old industry tactic that's been going on for decades. Sell them music they already purchased on a "new format". No thanks. 16-bit/256k is damn good and I can barely the difference between iTunes and the CD 5% of the time.

This is why streaming is the feature. Negates all of this nonsense.
Of course the streaming is lossless and has the quality of the new format ?
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Just the same old industry tactic that's been going on for decades. Sell them music they already purchased on a "new format". No thanks. This is why streaming is the feature. Negates all of this nonsense.
I dont really like streaming for my music to be fair, especially mobile with really expensive and low mobile data caps that we have in Canada.

I also like owning a copy of the music in DRM free local files so that I have control over it. I can choose where and when to listen to. I put Mp3's on a memory stick for the car. Ipod Touch, or my phone.


i'm not against streaming. it works for many things. But if I'm paying for music on an individual basis. I want to actually have a copy, thats all. Though, I still buy physical CD's to rip sometimes. But I do currently buy most of my music Digitally from iTunes.
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