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Old Jan 12, 2006, 10:33 PM   #1
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Intel Mac Mini When?

Hi guys, I couldn't hold out any longer after the keynote so I went ahead and purchased the current Mac Mini with bluetooth and airport. However, I have my heart set on the intel mac mini whenever it's suppose to come out. I'm really loving the mac mini but I heard the intel ones are going to be 2-3 times faster.

So since it wasn't announced at the keynote, when can we expect it to come out? Is there another event at which it could be announced? I heard June but I'm not sure if that's true or if that was referring to the intel mac mini's release date.

Thanks for any info.
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Old Jan 12, 2006, 10:36 PM   #2
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We're hoping soon, and a lot of people are expecting soon, but no one really knows. It most likely will not be announced at any sort of major event, rather Apple will probably have a private press event.
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Old Jan 12, 2006, 10:41 PM   #3
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Hi guys, I couldn't hold out any longer after the keynote so I went ahead and purchased the current Mac Mini with bluetooth and airport. However, I have my heart set on the intel mac mini whenever it's suppose to come out. I'm really loving the mac mini but I heard the intel ones are going to be 2-3 times faster.

So since it wasn't announced at the keynote, when can we expect it to come out? Is there another event at which it could be announced? I heard June but I'm not sure if that's true or if that was referring to the intel mac mini's release date.

Thanks for any info.
And did you hear in 1-3 years they will be 4-7x faster.. And in 10 years it may even be able to make you toast and spread the vegemite for you...The incessant whining and complaining about "should i buy a PPC mac or hold out for Intel" or the "damn i just bought a PPC mac should i return it" is borderline pathetic, if not already old and annoying...

Its a computer it will never hold its value, it will be outdated starting the moment its built, and i guarantee you 100% that within a certain timeframe it will be replaced by something faster/better looking/more shiny. Enough with the whining already, its a Mac so we already know its superior to anything out there, just be happy with that..

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Old Jan 12, 2006, 10:43 PM   #4
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I just have a gut feeling that there will be a press anouncement like Chaszmyr said. My gut says April 1st, Apples 30th birthday.

Trust the gut.
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Old Jan 12, 2006, 11:43 PM   #5
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And did you hear in 1-3 years they will be 4-7x faster.. And in 10 years it may even be able to make you toast and spread the vegemite for you...The incessant whining and complaining about "should i buy a PPC mac or hold out for Intel" or the "damn i just bought a PPC mac should i return it" is borderline pathetic, if not already old and annoying...

Its a computer it will never hold its value, it will be outdated starting the moment its built, and i guarantee you 100% that within a certain timeframe it will be replaced by something faster/better looking/more shiny. Enough with the whining already, its a Mac so we already know its superior to anything out there, just be happy with that..

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Chill man. They're simply asking when it is expected to be released.
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Old Jan 13, 2006, 12:17 AM   #6
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Probably no sooner than 6 months. So you'll be with that mac mini for a while. Intel won't have the single core yonah out until about june, and apple would be insane to put a dual core in the budget computer. And therefore it'll won't be 2-3x faster.
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Old Jan 13, 2006, 03:56 PM   #7
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lol why not. it would be big for mac minis if they had a lower end core duo.
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Old Jan 13, 2006, 04:02 PM   #8
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lol why not.
Cost. A Core Duo mini would have to be closer to $1000 (think Intel iMac w/o screen) than $500.

For all we know Apple will start shipping Pentium-M's in the mini without telling anyone about it, just like they did for the last/current G4 update.

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Cost. A Core Duo mini would have to be closer to $1000 (think Intel iMac w/o screen) than $500.

For all we know Apple will start shipping Pentium-M's in the mini without telling anyone about it, just like they did for the last/current G4 update.

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I don't think so. I bet they will have a core duo mini for the same pricepoint. There are plenty other things about the iMac that drive up the price.
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I believe the Mac minis will receive the single core variant of the Yonah, which is due out in a couple months (probably the same processor the iBooks will receive). So, I would say come spring you'll see an Intel Mac mini. Just my opinion.
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Old Jan 13, 2006, 04:09 PM   #11
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I don't think so. I bet they will have a core duo mini for the same pricepoint. There are plenty other things about the iMac that drive up the price.
Core Duos go for > $200. G4s (as in the mini) are < $50. Going to be a while before we get a $50 Core Duo Mini.

Core Solo, due later this year, is definitely a candidate.

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Old Jan 13, 2006, 04:13 PM   #12
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Probably no sooner than 6 months. So you'll be with that mac mini for a while. Intel won't have the single core yonah out until about june, and apple would be insane to put a dual core in the budget computer. And therefore it'll won't be 2-3x faster.

I was sure I heard Steve say that all macs would have dual core processors.
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Old Jan 13, 2006, 04:16 PM   #13
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I was sure I heard Steve say that all macs would have dual core processors.
Are you referring to his Keynote from MWSF? Because in that speech he indicated that all Intel Macs currently have dual core processors - i.e. the MacBook Pro and iMac, all two of them. At any rate, that is how I took that comment. Did you hear Steve say something else during another event or press release?
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Old Jan 13, 2006, 04:19 PM   #14
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well my sources at apple say that the powerbook G5's will be out next tuesday.....so my guess will be in about 2 weeks for the mac mini
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well my sources at apple say that the powerbook G5's will be out next tuesday.....so my guess will be in about 2 weeks for the mac mini
Nice one! I like how you even managed to incorporate the ever-common poor grammar that many people use as well when they say PowerBook G5's instead of G5s - excellent mock job, two thumbs up!
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Old Jan 13, 2006, 04:31 PM   #16
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I just have a gut feeling that there will be a press anouncement like Chaszmyr said. My gut says April 1st, Apples 30th birthday.

Trust the gut.

How do we even know there will be an intel Mac Mini?

Maybe they'll decide that the product doesn't make sense.

Maybe they'll decide that the Mac Mini form factor is a good one, but that it should be a feature-rich multimedia computer, and that it will be priced more like an iMac.

Personally I don't care about a mini with an intel chip. I'd like a mini, with an intel chip, and front row, and a DVR, and a bunch of other stuff so I can integrate it into my AV system. And, although I'm crazy, I'd actually expect to pay more than $500 for that.
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How do we even know there will be an intel Mac Mini?

Maybe they'll decide that the product doesn't make sense.

Maybe they'll decide that the Mac Mini form factor is a good one, but that it should be a feature-rich multimedia computer, and that it will be priced more like an iMac.

Personally I don't care about a mini with an intel chip. I'd like a mini, with an intel chip, and front row, and a DVR, and a bunch of other stuff so I can integrate it into my AV system. And, although I'm crazy, I'd actually expect to pay more than $500 for that.
Nah, there will be an Intel Mac mini - whether in its current incarnation or as some home theater/DVR/VIIV appliance, it will be around for a long time - it's too popular of a seller for Apple not to be.
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Probably no sooner than 6 months. So you'll be with that mac mini for a while. Intel won't have the single core yonah out until about june, and apple would be insane to put a dual core in the budget computer. And therefore it'll won't be 2-3x faster.
It's certainly possible but I think the big deal is coordinating the changes to the iBook/Mac mini line. Apple are most likely finishing the design and probably need time to get a dual core processor working well in such a confined area. Yes, it's got better performance per watt but it's still a heavy hitter compared to the single core G4.
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anyone have any idea on performance increase vs the g4 if its only a single core?
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anyone have any idea on performance increase vs the g4 if its only a single core?
It would still be significantly better, probably twice as fast as opposed to four times as fast as we have with the MacBook Pros.
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Old Jan 14, 2006, 03:48 AM   #21
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1.5x I guess. Which is 50% faster.
A dual core mac mini is about as likely as a G5 mac mini was. Yes, lets make a mac mini with a 160GB laptop drive, core duo and a 7800go. Don't be absurd.
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anyone have any idea on performance increase vs the g4 if its only a single core?
It will definately be at least a 25% increase, especially as they would have a bigger L2 cache and an FSB that would blow away a similarly clocked G4. It will also help if they increase the graphics power although I'm guessing on Intel Integrated on the low-end for a super-cheap model.
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Core Duos go for > $200. G4s (as in the mini) are < $50. Going to be a while before we get a $50 Core Duo Mini.

Core Solo, due later this year, is definitely a candidate.

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But, other than for marketing reasons, why is a Core Solo more likely than a Core Duo? The price of a low-end Core Solo in bulk is apparently $209, whilst the bottom-end Core Duo runs to $241.

It seems a shame to lose the dual-core functionality from the Mini for the sake of $32
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