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Old May 30, 2014, 01:22 AM   #1
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GOP House backs Medical Marijuana.

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The GOP-controlled House voted early Friday in favor of blocking the federal government from interfering with states that permit the use of medical marijuana.

The somewhat surprising 219-189 vote came as the House debated a bill funding the Justice Department's budget.

The amendment by conservative GOP Rep. Dana Rohrabacher of California the first state to legalize medical marijuana came as almost half the states have legalized marijuana for medical uses, such as improving the appetites of cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy.

"Public opinion is shifting," Rohrabacher said, noting a recent Pew Research Center that found 61 percent of Republicans support medical marijuana. The numbers are higher for independents and Democrats.

"Despite this overwhelming shift of public opinion, the federal government continues its hard line of oppression against medical marijuana," he said.

Oregon Democrat Earl Blumenauer told opponents that "this train has already left the station."
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Old May 30, 2014, 06:35 AM   #2
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That's nice...but it's such a predictable GOP mindset. They come at the problem not from the nationwide angle of legalizing marijuana, or even just medical marijuana. They see it as another issue where states' rights must be protected from the big bad federal government. And so it's just a tiny little baby step.
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Old May 30, 2014, 06:40 AM   #3
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That's nice...but it's such a predictable GOP mindset. They come at the problem not from the nationwide angle of legalizing marijuana, or even just medical marijuana. They see it as another issue where states' rights must be protected from the big bad federal government. And so it's just a tiny little baby step.
Hey man, whatever works....this is something that was desperately needed and now once this is signed into law more states can go ahead and legalize medical marijuana without fear.
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Old May 30, 2014, 06:52 AM   #4
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That's nice...but it's such a predictable GOP mindset. They come at the problem not from the nationwide angle of legalizing marijuana, or even just medical marijuana. They see it as another issue where states' rights must be protected from the big bad federal government. And so it's just a tiny little baby step.
It's still somewhat shocking as states rights to the GOP usually refers to states rights to discriminate against minorities.
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Old May 30, 2014, 07:28 AM   #5
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I always felt the greenies rally could learn from this and push clean energy to Republicans by pitching along the line of "Do you still want to buy oil from people who hate us?" Or something else along that line.
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Old May 30, 2014, 04:33 PM   #6
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It's still somewhat shocking as states rights to the GOP usually refers to states rights to discriminate against minorities.
Like how the left constantly makes this statement.. as just saying it over and over again must make it true.
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Old May 30, 2014, 04:39 PM   #7
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The cynic in me thinks they're doing this to try and attract younger voters.
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Old May 30, 2014, 04:46 PM   #8
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The cynic in me thinks they're doing this to try and attract younger voters.
I have never thought of medical use as a left and right thing. I know too many people on both sides with views all over the place. I for one now lean more conservative than I did in the past. I have always been against recreational use, but never against medical use.
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I have never thought of medical use as a left and right thing. I know too many people on both sides with views all over the place. I for one now lean more conservative than I did in the past. I have always been against recreational use, but never against medical use.

Sadly, everything is a left and right thing today.
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Sadly, everything is a left and right thing today.
Good point. Everything is politics these days. I for one am not objective in this area for "recreational" use. So many people state that it harmless, but I have seen what it has done in my family, so personally don't buy that argument. But do understand that if there is a medical benefit then why not use it. We have no issue with other drugs such as Xanax, Morphine, Oxycontin, other pain killers, as well as muscle relaxers. Yet we want to ban MJ for medical use.
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Old May 30, 2014, 05:06 PM   #11
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The GOP does something that you agree with and rather than embrace it, you look for nefarious plots behind it? Chalk it up as a win. As everyone is aware, I'm a Complicated but Card Carrying Republican. I support medical marijuana completely however, it takes one major step before I'll support recreational marijuana...

A readily available and inexpensive test so that employers and LEO can determine level of impairment.
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Old May 30, 2014, 05:07 PM   #12
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Good point. Everything is politics these days. I for one am not objective in this area for "recreational" use. So many people state that it harmless, but I have seen what it has done in my family, so personally don't buy that argument. But do understand that if there is a medical benefit then why not use it. We have no issue with other drugs such as Xanax, Morphine, Oxycontin, other pain killers, as well as muscle relaxers. Yet we want to ban MJ for medical use.


Like any mind altering substance, there will be those who suffer from its use. Doesn't matter if its legal or not.

My family is the opposite. Quite a few weed smokers and we all have great jobs, own homes on Long Island and drive cars that are mortgage payments for some. I don't see any difference between getting high on a Friday night and having a few drinks other than how you might fell the next morning. Shrug.
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Like any mind altering substance, there will be those who suffer from its use. Doesn't matter if its legal or not.

My family is the opposite. Quite a few weed smokers and we all have great jobs, own homes on Long Island and drive cars that are mortgage payments for some. I don't see any difference between getting high on a Friday night and having a few drinks other than how you might fell the next morning. Shrug.
The difference is that drinking is legal... Buying, possessing and using recreational marijuana is illegal in almost every state. If a person decides to purchase, possess or use an illegal substance they have chosen to break the law. All the consequences that come with that; arrest, reputation, employment problems, attorney fees, fines, probation, etc. are on them.
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The difference is that drinking is legal... Buying, possessing and using recreational marijuana is illegal in almost every state. If a person decides to purchase, possess or use an illegal substance they have chosen to break the law. All the consequences that come with that; arrest, reputation, employment problems, attorney fees, fines, probation, etc. are on them.

That too will change, and rather quickly I think. (Not gay marriage quickly. )

100 million Americans have used it. 25 million smoked within the past year. 14 million smoke regularly. Our public policies need to reflect this reality. We waste far too much money and resources on marijuana.
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That too will change, and rather quickly I think. (Not gay marriage quickly. )

100 million Americans have used it. 25 million smoked within the past year. 14 million smoke regularly. Our public policies need to reflect this reality. We waste far too much money and resources on marijuana.
We aren't wasting money or resources on marijuana. We are using that money and those resources to lock up losers who have chosen to break our laws. People who have decided that they are above the law. Scofflaws that think you can pick and choose what laws you will obey.

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The GOP does something that you agree with and rather than embrace it, you look for nefarious plots behind it? Chalk it up as a win. As everyone is aware, I'm a Complicated but Card Carrying Republican. I support medical marijuana completely however, it takes one major step before I'll support recreational marijuana...

A readily available and inexpensive test so that employers and LEO can determine level of impairment.
well the GOP has pretty much not done anything to help people. Most things they pass benefit big business or hurt woman and minorities and children. So it is hard to believe they are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts (not sure if they possess them beside the mechanical version)it is a good chance they are going it to make up for all the Shait they have dumped on everyone that's not rich,white,male.
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well the GOP has pretty much not done anything to help people. Most things they pass benefit big business or hurt woman and minorities and children. So it is hard to believe they are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts (not sure if they possess them beside the mechanical version)it is a good chance they are going it to make up for all the Shait they have dumped on everyone that's not rich,white,male.
Who cares WHY they are doing it. If they are doing something you want them to do, chalk it up as they've heard you. Support it and thank them for their votes. Of course, the Democrats will vote against it.
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Who cares WHY they are doing it. If they are doing something you want them to do, chalk it up as they've heard you. Support it and thank them for their votes. Of course, the Democrats will vote against it.
if you do lousy things to others all your life and once you do the right thing does that wipe out all the bad?
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if you do lousy things to others all your life and ocne you do the right thing does that wipe out all the bad?
Did I say that it does? Of course not. The left are upset because the GOP did something that they wanted them to do. Imagine that.
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I think it is more like the GOP will take the credit for it all.
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This is one thing that the feds should actually just go hands off all together. Drop the Schedule I classification altogether and leave it up to the states.

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We aren't wasting money or resources on marijuana. We are using that money and those resources to lock up losers who have chosen to break our laws. People who have decided that they are above the law. Scofflaws that think you can pick and choose what laws you will obey.
Why don't you support freedom?
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We aren't wasting money or resources on marijuana. We are using that money and those resources to lock up losers who have chosen to break our laws. People who have decided that they are above the law. Scofflaws that think you can pick and choose what laws you will obey.
Kinda like how Christians pick and choose which verses in the Bible to obey.
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Kinda like how Christians pick and choose which verses in the Bible to obey.
They shouldn't be.

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well the GOP has pretty much not done anything to help people. Most things they pass benefit big business or hurt woman and minorities and children. So it is hard to believe they are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts (not sure if they possess them beside the mechanical version)it is a good chance they are going it to make up for all the Shait they have dumped on everyone that's not rich,white,male.
There it is...keep saying it enough, and people will start to believe it. Mantra of the democratic party.
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This is one thing that the feds should actually just go hands off all together. Drop the Schedule I classification altogether and leave it up to the states.

Why don't you support freedom?
You do not have the freedom to break the law. You work to change the law but you have to obey the laws until you get them changed.

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Kinda like how Christians pick and choose which verses in the Bible to obey.
I'm not a Christian.
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