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Old Jun 10, 2014, 07:11 AM   #1
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Vegas Cop Killers were Part of Cliven Bundy "Militia"

Did we not warn everyone that Cliven Bundy supporters are terrorists? Point proven. These two nuts were actually even too extreme for the other terrorists and were asked to leave the ranch! Why is right wing extremism so often mixed with swastikas and the words "patriot" and "freedom"?

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Jerad and Amanda Miller both were extremist, radicals and sympathetic to the right wing "patriot movement," and now new information shows that not only were they strong supporters of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, but were also too fanatical for the movement.

Over the weekend, two cops and and a civilian were left dead in Las Vegas, NV after Jerad Miller and his wife Amanda opened fire. Left behind beside the bodies were a swastika and a "Don't Tread On Me" Tea Party flag. As the cops closed in, Amanda shot her husband dead before taking her own life.

One day before the shooting on June 7, Jerad Miller updated his Facebook status by stating:
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"The dawn of a new day. May all of our coming sacrifices be worth it."
Additional posts were filled with anti-government rhetoric, taking shots at gun control laws and taxes.

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"We can hope for peace. We must, however, prepare for war. We face an enemy that is not only well funded, but who believe they fight for freedom and justice. Those of us who know the truth and dare speak it, know that the enemy we face are indeed our brothers....

"To stop this oppression, I fear, can ... only be accomplished with bloodshed."
In addition to their constant right-wing paranoia of the government, the Millers were strong supporters of Cliven Bundy, who after not paying $1 million in mandatory grazing fees to the federal government, surrounded himself with armed supported after federal agents attempted to confiscate his cattle. The supporters were able to cause federal BLM agents to release the cattle and back off. According to CNN, the Millers were at the Bunch ranch taking part in the armed protest but were asked to leave by fellow militia members because they held "radical beliefs" too extreme even for Bundy's supporters.

A video resurfaced from a local NBC affiliate were Jerad Miller was actually interviewed at the Bundy ranch speaking about taking possible violent actions against the federal government.

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"I feel sorry for any federal agents that want to come in here and try to push us around, or anything like that. I really donít want violence toward them, but if theyíre going to come bring violence to us ó well, if thatís the language they want to speak, weíll learn it."
The story of Jerad and Amanda Miller is the stereotypical anti-government fanatics that many on the political left often talk about. Not every Tea Party member or conservative is capable of the actions of the Millers, in fact the majority aren't, but result of the Miller's decision proves that sometimes the stereotype is true.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 08:56 AM   #2
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Did we not warn everyone that Cliven Bundy supporters are terrorists? Point proven. These two nuts were actually even too extreme for the other terrorists and were asked to leave the ranch! Why is right wing extremism so often mixed with swastikas and the words "patriot" and "freedom"?



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Your post. It makes no sense!

Same crap, different day I suppose amirite?
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 09:04 AM   #3
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If they were asked to leave the Bundy Ranch, I don't believe that would make them part of their group. It is good to hear that even they have standards. When I watched one of the videos of the confrontation at the end of the road, one of the things that I noticed was members telling others to comply with the instructions and not to resist.

I don't even think they want nut jobs like this around.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 09:08 AM   #4
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If they were asked to leave the Bundy Ranch, I don't believe that would make them part of their group. It is good to hear that even they have standards. When I watched one of the videos of the confrontation at the end of the road, one of the things that I noticed was members telling others to comply with the instructions and not to resist.

I don't even think they want nut jobs like this around.

Yes, the Bundy's only allow a certain caliber nut job to hang around.

Was this one of the guy;s complying?

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Old Jun 10, 2014, 09:10 AM   #5
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Yes, the Bundy's only allow a certain caliber nut job to hang around.

Was this one of the guy;s complying?

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Did he shot anyone??
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 09:26 AM   #6
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Did he shot anyone??
He aimed a gun at law enforcement. The stupid ****er should be lucky he's not dead.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 04:15 PM   #7
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Did he shot anyone??
Are you friggin serious ?

You are implying it is ok to aim a loaded rifle at a federal agent.

Is this correct ? Do you really think that way ?


I hope so because Mr. Parker is being investigated.



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Old Jun 10, 2014, 04:24 PM   #8
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Did he shot anyone??
It may not be possible to prove where he was aiming there, but if he was aiming at another person, he should have been arrested for it, regardless of whether the target was a federal agent.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 04:33 PM   #9
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It may not be possible to prove where he was aiming there, but if he was aiming at another person, he should have been arrested for it, regardless of whether the target was a federal agent.
You're one of the "gun experts" here right ?

What's that photo look like to you ? Think he was aiming at a cow ?

Or one of his fellow militiamen ?

He's even wearing what looks like a bullet-proof vest.

He should be in jail as we speak.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 04:49 PM   #10
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Did he shot anyone??
Cardinal rules of handling a gun:
  1. Assume that every gun you touch is loaded
  2. Do not point a gun toward anything other than what you intend to shoot
  3. Shoot only at what you intend to destroy
Generally speaking, if you point a gun at me, I would be entirely within my rights to have you put in jail for assault.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 04:55 PM   #11
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If they were asked to leave the Bundy Ranch, I don't believe that would make them part of their group. It is good to hear that even they have standards. When I watched one of the videos of the confrontation at the end of the road, one of the things that I noticed was members telling others to comply with the instructions and not to resist.

I don't even think they want nut jobs like this around.

If Jerad Miller was asked to leave the Bundy ranch, it must have been after a while as he did quite a few TV and print interviews from there.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 05:31 PM   #12
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You're one of the "gun experts" here right ?

What's that photo look like to you ? Think he was aiming at a cow ?

Or one of his fellow militiamen ?

He's even wearing what looks like a bullet-proof vest.

He should be in jail as we speak.
Of course I'm not a gun expert, nor have I claimed to be one. I've never even owned a firearm, and I don't know where you got such a misguided impression of me. I said it might be difficult to prove exactly where he's aiming apart from general direction, but I agree he should be in jail. He shouldn't be pointing that gun at anything if his life isn't in danger.
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 05:59 PM   #13
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Business Insider provides a link they say is Jerad Miller in his own words on Google+;

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I was out there but they told me and my wife to leave because I am a felon. They don't seem to understand that they are all felons now for intimidating law enforcement with deadly weapons...
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 06:34 PM   #14
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Of course I'm not a gun expert, nor have I claimed to be one. I've never even owned a firearm, and I don't know where you got such a misguided impression of me. I said it might be difficult to prove exactly where he's aiming apart from general direction, but I agree he should be in jail. He shouldn't be pointing that gun at anything if his life isn't in danger.
Sorry I confused you with someone else.

It gets rather exhausting at times.

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Business Insider provides a link they say is Jerad Miller in his own words on Google+;
I think the fact that the Bundy group wouldn't allow convicted felons to camp with them is actually a positive thing.
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I think the fact that the Bundy group wouldn't allow convicted felons to camp with them is actually a positive thing.
yes......they clearly saw they were attracting a bad lot
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I think the fact that the Bundy group wouldn't allow convicted felons to camp with them is actually a positive thing.
I agree, but in all fairness, Jerad did have a point. Pulling a weapon down on a federal agent is a criminal offense, so they would be felons if tried and convicted.

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I agree, but in all fairness, Jerad did have a point. Pulling a weapon down on a federal agent is a criminal offense, so they would be felons if tried and convicted.

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There is no doubt that Eric Holder has seen these photos. Do you really think that with resources of our federal government we haven't identified who that guy with the rifle is? Why hasn't he arrested him? There has to be more to the story.
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There is no doubt that Eric Holder has seen these photos. Do you really think that with resources of our federal government we haven't identified who that guy with the rifle is? Why hasn't he arrested him? There has to be more to the story.
It was posted above that the guy is under investigation. You're thinking because nothing has been done yet that there is something ulterior going on that we don't know about.

Let the investigation continue and if a warrant is issued, a warrant will be issued. But you can not doubt that having a weapon, especially of that type drawn down on an agent is an offense and action should be taken.

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Are you friggin serious ?

You are implying it is ok to aim a loaded rifle at a federal agent.

Is this correct ? Do you really think that way ?


I hope so because Mr. Parker is being investigated.

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There is no doubt that Eric Holder has seen these photos. Do you really think that with resources of our federal government we haven't identified who that guy with the rifle is? Why hasn't he arrested him? There has to be more to the story.
The article is even from a guns rights website :

"I suspect it was a small portion of the assembled total, but some of them quite famously did, including Eric Parker, who dropped prone and assumed a firing stance at the federal agents lined up ahead of him."
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You're one of the "gun experts" here right ?

What's that photo look like to you ? Think he was aiming at a cow ?

Or one of his fellow militiamen ?


He's even wearing what looks like a bullet-proof vest.

He should be in jail as we speak.
snipers get reference points & aim at them to see what the sight picture looks like at certain distances.

http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/...elite-shooters
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I agree, but in all fairness, Jerad did have a point. Pulling a weapon down on a federal agent is a criminal offense, so they would be felons if tried and convicted.

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Even Jerad seems to have realized that pointing a weapon at a federal agent who's out there doing his job is sorta stupid.

It does seem that;

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There is no doubt that Eric Holder has seen these photos. Do you really think that with resources of our federal government we haven't identified who that guy with the rifle is? Why hasn't he arrested him? There has to be more to the story.
well you'll be happy to know that the FBI is now investigating according to Las Vegas KLAS-tv;

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LAS VEGAS -- The 8 News NOW I-Team has learned that FBI agents have started an investigation into the events surrounding a potentially deadly showdown one month ago surrounding rancher Cliven Bundy....

...Last week, the I-Team talked with Metro officers who intervened to protect the lives of federal employees from the 400 or so Bundy supporters and armed militia members. Officers told the I-Team they feared for their lives that day because of the assembled firepower, and because many in the crowd had pointed weapons at officers, taunted them, told them they should be ready to die.

Assistant Sheriff Joe Lombardo, who was left in charge of the Metro contingent by Sheriff Doug Gillespie, told the I-Team that such alleged behavior would be the subject of a criminal investigation.

"The federal authorities are conducting an investigation and I am pretty confident it is going to go into the future," Lombardo said.

He added there would be consequences for someone caught on videotape pointing a gun at a Metro office or federal ranger.

"Yes, there is definitely going to be consequences, definitely. That is unacceptable behavior. If we let it go, it would continue into the future," Lombardo said....

....FBI agents also spoke to an entire squad of Metro officers, who were on the scene to act as a buffer between the crowd and the BLM. Bundy supporters have insisted in emails and calls to 8 News NOW that no one in the crowd pointed weapons at BLM or Metro, but officers told the I-Team that is exactly what they saw, that many with guns set up behind women and children.

"It is not a rumor. When we first got out there and made a left to divide I-15, that is all you saw. You saw kids and women and horses in the backdrop and then men with guns, laying on the ground, in the back of pickup trucks. We're going, 'wow, this would never happen in Las Vegas,' But it was there. That is not a rumor. It is reality and I saw it with my own eyes," Metro Police Sgt. Tom Jenkins said.

Sgt. Jenkins has been interviewed by the FBI. A second squad is expected to be interviewed by week's end. The bureau does not confirm or deny the existence of any investigation but the I-Team have confirmed from multiple sources that a criminal investigation is underway.

It is illegal to point loaded weapons at federal agents, and most people know what would happen, if a suspect pointed a gun at a Metro officer in the Las Vegas valley....
The Bundy militia deny it all of course (never mind those photos you've seen )

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snipers get reference points & aim at them to see what the sight picture looks like at certain distances.

http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/...elite-shooters
Really.

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well you'll be happy to know that the FBI is now investigating according to Las Vegas KLAS-tv;
Life in prison for domestic terrorism please.
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