Dual 867 crashes (sleep) - major frustration

giovanni · Jan 13, 2003, 10:12 AM

Hi all,
my Mac rarely wakes up in a good shape after sleep. Most often it will indeed wake up however incredibly unstable with guaranteed crashes. The computer just hangs, with that color ball turning and turning. That is why I guess I had set sleep to "never". But I figure I would rather have it to sleep instead of turning on and off.
Now is there anything I should do to try to solve this big problem other than reinstalling OS 10.2.3 ? I thought it might be my firewire devices but, after disconnecting them all, the problem was still there.
Note that I have no strange devices installed, or strange software. I have installed myself a Pioneer A104 and 1gig ram from Crucial. I have run the Apple provided hardware test and all was good (other than it did not detect my airport which works pretty well).
Any ideas ?

giovanni

sparkleytone · Jan 13, 2003, 10:21 AM

first of all, why turn it on or off anyways?? os x likes to be on all the time.

second, i would check to see what processes you are running. some programs, inevitably nonapple ones, like to take up cycles when they are not being used. this can cause alot of problems upon waking up from sleep, including a program trying to make up on hours of missed cycles. chimera used to have this problem.

giovanni · Jan 13, 2003, 10:29 AM

hi, thanks. I doubt that I have any non Apple programs running when I leave the Mac and it goes to sleep. But I will check on that. I wonder whether playing a game like Ghost Reckon screws things up just enough to cause this mess (it is just a conjecture, I have no idea...). But I always exit it before I leave.

giovanni

giovanni · Jan 13, 2003, 10:33 AM

sorry, as to the first part of your reply. It is kind of noisy so at least at night I do prefer to turn it off - but sleeping would be just the best of it all !

gio

benixau · Jan 13, 2003, 02:48 PM

i have a simliar problem sometimes

i find that if you have doen alot of work on it then things are just messy. it is best to shut it down onnce in a while, like once every week

but as for sleeping, make sure that noting is trying to access the network/internet.

good luck

giovanni · Jan 13, 2003, 03:06 PM

ok, I guess I will try and make sure nothing is accessing the network. All I have is an airport to access the internet so I guess that means closing apps like browsers and email.

gio

sparkleytone · Jan 13, 2003, 03:31 PM

try this method...

when you put your computer to sleep, logout first. at the login screen, put the machine to sleep. see what kind of results this gives you.

erickkoch · Jan 13, 2003, 04:06 PM

I've had similar problems trying to get my iMac to "wake up" only to have it freeze and discovered that it only occured when my USB hub was powered. An Apple rep I met confirmed that sometimes peripherals do unexpected things to their machines. The problem doesn't occure anymore and I'm not sure why, I've bought new peripherals and discarded old ones (scanners, photocard readers, etc) and now I can leave my hub powered and wake up just fine.

giovanni · Jan 13, 2003, 07:37 PM

Erick,
so you don't have anymore wake up problems even if you leave network apps (like email or browser) running ?

thx,
gio

erickkoch · Jan 27, 2003, 09:44 PM

Nope, no problems at all anymore.

EK

Jan 13, 2003, 10:12 AM	#1
giovanni macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: manhattan	Dual 867 crashes (sleep) - major frustration Hi all, my Mac rarely wakes up in a good shape after sleep. Most often it will indeed wake up however incredibly unstable with guaranteed crashes. The computer just hangs, with that color ball turning and turning. That is why I guess I had set sleep to "never". But I figure I would rather have it to sleep instead of turning on and off. Now is there anything I should do to try to solve this big problem other than reinstalling OS 10.2.3 ? I thought it might be my firewire devices but, after disconnecting them all, the problem was still there. Note that I have no strange devices installed, or strange software. I have installed myself a Pioneer A104 and 1gig ram from Crucial. I have run the Apple provided hardware test and all was good (other than it did not detect my airport which works pretty well). Any ideas ? giovanni

Jan 13, 2003, 10:21 AM	#2
sparkleytone macrumors 68020 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC	first of all, why turn it on or off anyways?? os x likes to be on all the time. second, i would check to see what processes you are running. some programs, inevitably nonapple ones, like to take up cycles when they are not being used. this can cause alot of problems upon waking up from sleep, including a program trying to make up on hours of missed cycles. chimera used to have this problem. __________________ "The Reality Distiortion Field™ is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off."

Jan 13, 2003, 02:48 PM	#5
benixau macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia	i have a simliar problem sometimes i find that if you have doen alot of work on it then things are just messy. it is best to shut it down onnce in a while, like once every week but as for sleeping, make sure that noting is trying to access the network/internet. good luck __________________ Rather own a Mac than a Dell

Jan 13, 2003, 03:31 PM	#7
sparkleytone macrumors 68020 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC	try this method... when you put your computer to sleep, logout first. at the login screen, put the machine to sleep. see what kind of results this gives you. __________________ "The Reality Distiortion Field™ is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off."

Jan 13, 2003, 04:06 PM	#8
erickkoch macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kalifornia	I've had similar problems trying to get my iMac to "wake up" only to have it freeze and discovered that it only occured when my USB hub was powered. An Apple rep I met confirmed that sometimes peripherals do unexpected things to their machines. The problem doesn't occure anymore and I'm not sure why, I've bought new peripherals and discarded old ones (scanners, photocard readers, etc) and now I can leave my hub powered and wake up just fine. __________________ Mac Pro 2.66 GHz 20-inch ACD X2

Jan 13, 2003, 10:29 AM	#3
giovanni Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: manhattan	hi, thanks. I doubt that I have any non Apple programs running when I leave the Mac and it goes to sleep. But I will check on that. I wonder whether playing a game like Ghost Reckon screws things up just enough to cause this mess (it is just a conjecture, I have no idea...). But I always exit it before I leave. giovanni

Jan 13, 2003, 10:33 AM	#4
giovanni Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: manhattan	sorry, as to the first part of your reply. It is kind of noisy so at least at night I do prefer to turn it off - but sleeping would be just the best of it all ! gio

Jan 13, 2003, 03:06 PM	#6
giovanni Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: manhattan	ok, I guess I will try and make sure nothing is accessing the network. All I have is an airport to access the internet so I guess that means closing apps like browsers and email. gio

Jan 13, 2003, 07:37 PM	#9
giovanni Thread Starter macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: manhattan	Erick, so you don't have anymore wake up problems even if you leave network apps (like email or browser) running ? thx, gio

Jan 27, 2003, 09:44 PM	#10
erickkoch macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kalifornia	Nope, no problems at all anymore. EK __________________ Mac Pro 2.66 GHz 20-inch ACD X2

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