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Old Jan 22, 2006, 12:26 PM   #1
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Jobs to scoop $3.5bn as Pixar board approves Disney takeover




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Link: Jobs to scoop $3.5bn as Pixar board approves Disney takeover
Description:: The board of Pixar Animation Studios, the digital animations company, is set to meet tomorrow to approve the company's $7bn (�3.9bn) takeover by Disney.

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Old Jan 22, 2006, 12:40 PM   #2
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Makes sense for Disney to own the maker of its best products. For one thing, they now won't have to worry about Pixar flying the coop to another distributor.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 01:27 PM   #3
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as long as Disney is smart enough to leave Pixar alone and not work it's corporate claws into Pixar's creative process.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 01:31 PM   #4
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Jobs will be the biggest stockholder in Disney so I doubt things will get bad.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 01:52 PM   #5
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Does this mean that Steve will get a high corporate position in Disney, then take over Disney, and then have Apple take over Disney? Then Apple would safely own most of the country.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 01:56 PM   #6
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Does this mean that Steve will get a high corporate position in Disney, then take over Disney, and then have Apple take over Disney? Then Apple would safely own most of the country.

Dunno.But it could mean future Macs will have Mickey inside.Or the Mighty Mouse might be renamed the Mickey Mouse
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 01:58 PM   #7
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Does this mean that Steve will get a high corporate position in Disney, then take over Disney, and then have A
Let me finish your thought ... yes, this is a non-merger merger between Disney and Apple because Jobs is Apple. Apple now has full access to Disney content, which means a lot more than just TV and movie downloads, it means Apple has all the content it needs to launch an IPTV network.

Imagine a wireless video iPod that allows you to watch ESPN anywhere. It's less than two years away.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 03:00 PM   #8
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Does this mean that Steve will get a high corporate position in Disney, then take over Disney, and then have Apple take over Disney? Then Apple would safely own most of the country.
No. I could see Jobs on the Disney board (possibly as chairman), but I don't see him trying to running both Apple and Disney. He wouldn't be able to either job effectively.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 06:20 PM   #9
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as long as Disney is smart enough to leave Pixar alone and not work it's corporate claws into Pixar's creative process.
I agree completely! I have no problem with the Pixar toys and theme park rides and whatever else, as long as Disney handles this and lets Pixar alone with their films. They need to be able to function creatively without letting marketing dictate what they do.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 06:30 PM   #10
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as long as Disney is smart enough to leave Pixar alone and not work it's corporate claws into Pixar's creative process.
Yeah, that's my biggest fear. Pixar has done some great stuff, Disney, not so much.

I suspect it's the Tivo stuff and Disney's other stuff that makes it a good deal for both parties.
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I think of Disney as the Microsoft of the entertainment industry - a very imperialistic and dominating low quality operation that totes the REPUBLICAN line. This is very depressing news. Jobs is a VERY DEMOCRAT personal friend of Bill Clinton's with Al Gore on the Apple Board. This makes me physically SICK to learn.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 07:51 PM   #12
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Good for Jobs and Pixar in general. With Disney and all they venues, Pixar will grow in many ways and Jobs will acquire relations with various other media venues.

It seems like a plus for all parties and only time will tell if it all works out for the better.
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I think of Disney as the Microsoft of the entertainment industry - a very imperialistic and dominating low quality operation that totes the REPUBLICAN line. This is very depressing news. Jobs is a VERY DEMOCRAT personal friend of Bill Clinton's with Al Gore on the Apple Board. This makes me physically SICK to learn.
call me a skeptic... I thought there were some subjects that couldn't possibly be turned to partisan politics, but I was wrong...

Might be time to loosen up a bit, and not hang out in the online political arena...

If he becomes chairman, I'm all for it - Disney needs a turnaround, and they need to start thinking quality first, sales later.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 08:19 PM   #14
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I think of Disney as the Microsoft of the entertainment industry - a very imperialistic and dominating low quality operation that totes the REPUBLICAN line. This is very depressing news. Jobs is a VERY DEMOCRAT personal friend of Bill Clinton's with Al Gore on the Apple Board. This makes me physically SICK to learn.

i believe many on the board of disney (both past and present) are fairly liberal

katzenberg, eisner, etc

katzenberg is now at skg with spielberg and gaffenberg......3 nice jewish boys who i believe are on the left side of the political spectrum



also, as per the person who said eisner diluted disneys profits......he revived disney in the late 80s and 90s. and only recently has he come under fire until his departure
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also, as per the person who said eisner diluted disneys profits......he revived disney in the late 80s and 90s. and only recently has he come under fire until his departure
I think you're referring to my comment. I wasn't talking about profits or share price.

Eisner did a good job in turning Disney around as a business, but in the process he absolutely did dilute the Disney brand's value. He also created (or bought) a bunch of new brands that are currently part of the Disney empire that may be of value or not. (Touchstone, Hollywood Pictures, Miramax, ABC, ESPN, ...)

This is the same kind of brand dilution that occurred during the dark Jobs-less days at Apple.

I would hope that as part of the buyout, Pixar would remain a separate brand i.e. their movies would continue to be marketed as Disney-Pixar and not just Disney.

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Old Jan 23, 2006, 02:53 PM   #17
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Wow, nice windfall Steve! Congrats!

Now.. $40 billion to go to catch up with Bill?

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I think of Disney as the Microsoft of the entertainment industry - a very imperialistic and dominating low quality operation that totes the REPUBLICAN line. This is very depressing news. Jobs is a VERY DEMOCRAT personal friend of Bill Clinton's with Al Gore on the Apple Board. This makes me physically SICK to learn.

Take it easy ol' boy. There is a politics forum, and this is not it. Furthermore, Jobs is a businessman...hell, I'd say first and foremost a businessman. Being able to work with and through other people is much more important to being in business than ideological squabbles. Call me an old-fashioned conservative, but compromise is what makes the world turn.
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Call me an old-fashioned conservative, but compromise is what makes the world turn.
If that's what you believe, I certainly won't be calling you an old-fashioned conservative. The central belief of every conservative I've met has been that every moral issue is at the untenably narrow peak of an extremely slippery slope. Hence, you know, the term "conservative."
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PS. Has anyone every thought of it as funny that we Mac people feel comfortable calling Steve Jobs by his first name?
Not as funny as thinking of Apple as 'our' little company and then hearing about Apple as a 70 billion dollar corporate giant

Now with regards to the Pixar Disney deal, one would assume that Steve being the 'details' kinda guy that he is you would have to assume that he is in this deal with upper hand and will be negotiating to come up with an arrangement that works in his favour with regards to boardroom meetings and his voting capacity with regards to the rest of the board of directors. He knows exactly what sort of deal he wants and what Steve Jobs wants Steve Jobs gets. All I can say is that in the lang run I am sure that the deal will greatly benefit both Apple, Pixar and Disney, and Steve
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good for disney, questionable for pixar.

My fear would be that Jobs is appointed CEO of Disney, then Apple takes a back seat. Apple is forced to find a new CEO, and then in an effort to be "retro" the new CEO introduces the "new" Macintosh LC II, with the tagline "if you liked the original..."

Without Jobs, Apple has proven it can create and release some real crap.
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good for disney, questionable for pixar.

My fear would be that Jobs is appointed CEO of Disney, then Apple takes a back seat. Apple is forced to find a new CEO, and then in an effort to be "retro" the new CEO introduces the "new" Macintosh LC II, with the tagline "if you liked the original..."

Without Jobs, Apple has proven it can create and release some real crap.
I don't think Steve Jobs could do that. Apple is the company that he started, he couldn't just throw it in the back seat.
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Old Jan 23, 2006, 12:13 AM   #23
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We're becoming Republicans.
What do you mean "becoming"? Everyone knows that you have to be a Republican to afford Apple products! ::ducking::

Seriously though, try thinking outside the box for a moment. I've been an Apple user since 1979 and consider myself a Tree-Hugging Money-Loving Pagan Republican.

And yes, I can stomach "Small World". I went to college in Winter Park; not too far from Disney. I'd meet with local AL:PE buddies and drink Blue Hawaiians in the Tambu Lounge.
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Old Jan 23, 2006, 12:15 AM   #24
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Way to go Steve!
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What do you mean "becoming"? Everyone knows that you have to be a Republican to afford Apple products! ::ducking::

Seriously though, try thinking outside the box for a moment. I've been an Apple user since 1979 and consider myself a Tree-Hugging Money-Loving Pagan Republican.
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