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Old Jan 22, 2006, 10:54 PM   #1
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 11:09 PM   #2
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My MacBook is shipping on the 15th of February. I told my boss that this would replace my IBM desktop and I could boot Windows XP on it. I am still confident it can be done. I am pledging $100 of my own money and offering anyone else who would like the instructions on how to Dual boot these two operating systems the ability to donate some of their money into the pot as a reward for the person / group that can make dual-booting Mac OS X and Windows XP happen on an Intel Mac. Good Luck,

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I'm betting that someone will have a hacked version of xp running on intel macs by the end of this week (Saturday January 28th). Any takers?
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I'm betting that someone will have a hacked version of xp running on intel macs by the end of this week (Saturday January 28th). Any takers?
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 11:39 PM   #5
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Wow, nothing like a contest to motivate people to get XP on an apple computer. Would have been better if the prize was more, but whatever.
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Old Jan 22, 2006, 11:46 PM   #6
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Heh. I told my manager the same thing, but he didn't bite.
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What we need is an official response from MS. Right now the theorizing is all over the board. Does EFI have the compatibility module included? Or is it because Apple disabled UDF or El Torito volume support?
No one has a streight answer right now. What needs to happen is more of these Macintels need to ship into the hands of geeks. Once that happens and once there is a somewhat critical mass in geekdom results will start to happen. Right now x86 iMacs are scarse. . .MacBook Pros are nonexistent. It will happen one way or antoher even if someone has to write a compatibility driver for EFI to support such volumes and then create a bootloader that passes off startup to ntldr and from there loads Windows. It will happen. I have NO doubt about it.
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What we need is an official response from MS. Right now the theorizing is all over the board. Does EFI have the compatibility module included? Or is it because Apple disabled UDF or El Torito volume support?
No one has a streight answer right now. What needs to happen is more of these Macintels need to ship into the hands of geeks. Once that happens and once there is a somewhat critical mass in geekdom results will start to happen. Right now x86 iMacs are scarse. . .MacBook Pros are nonexistent. It will happen one way or antoher even if someone has to write a compatibility driver for EFI to support such volumes and then create a bootloader that passes off startup to ntldr and from there loads Windows. It will happen. I have NO doubt about it.
I think this is dead on. It will happen, and it probably won't be very long.
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Old Jan 23, 2006, 12:40 AM   #10
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What we need is an official response from MS. Right now the theorizing is all over the board. Does EFI have the compatibility module included? Or is it because Apple disabled UDF or El Torito volume support?
No one has a streight answer right now. What needs to happen is more of these Macintels need to ship into the hands of geeks. Once that happens and once there is a somewhat critical mass in geekdom results will start to happen. Right now x86 iMacs are scarse. . .MacBook Pros are nonexistent. It will happen one way or antoher even if someone has to write a compatibility driver for EFI to support such volumes and then create a bootloader that passes off startup to ntldr and from there loads Windows. It will happen. I have NO doubt about it.
Ok so MacBookPro's don't exist yet, BUT there are tons of iMacs out there that have the intel chips in em..
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Old Jan 23, 2006, 12:57 AM   #11
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Yes, but remember that a lot of those "tons" are in the hands of ordinary users, not "hacker geeks"

I think getting Linux to work will be the first step. It should be trivial to boot Windows from a Linux bootloader.
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Old Jan 23, 2006, 02:56 AM   #12
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my question is. what happens, when the inevitable happens (meaning, the macintels are running any windows variant) AND let as us mac "newbies" start plugging in their no name scanner or printer or whatever and installing drivers and everything. and it crashes "windows" or should i say the mac!?!

and would these people go complaining and say "the mac is unstable (and expensive)"?
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Old Jan 23, 2006, 03:17 AM   #13
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Most people wouldn't buy a Mac to use as a Windows computer. Most people who need Windows would use Virtual PC or similar, as rebooting is a huge pain. With the current version of VPC, things like printing use the native OS X driver, and I expect it to work the same way in the Intel version.

In other words, I wouldn't worry about it too much
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Most people wouldn't buy a Mac to use as a Windows computer. Most people who need Windows would use Virtual PC or similar, as rebooting is a huge pain. With the current version of VPC, things like printing use the native OS X driver, and I expect it to work the same way in the Intel version.
I don't know about that... I think there are at least a few people in the same position this guy seems to be in- namely they see it as a way of getting a Mac at work. I know people where I work have talked about it.

Being able to boot Windows gives everyone around you the warm fuzzies-- much more than emulation does. They know you'll be compatible with the rest of the office...

It's more about being able to run Mac OS on your Windows machine than the other way around.
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Ok so MacBookPro's don't exist yet, BUT there are tons of iMacs out there that have the intel chips in em..
Ton is relative though. Where are those "ton o' iMacs" going?
Most geeks can, and do, build their own computers. Not so with laptops. I expect that there is going to be more work done with the laptops then the iMacs. But obviously this is just a guess.
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The prize is now $622 thanks to donations and it will probably continue to grow.
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Old Jan 23, 2006, 08:58 AM   #17
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Most people wouldn't buy a Mac to use as a Windows computer. Most people who need Windows would use Virtual PC or similar, as rebooting is a huge pain. With the current version of VPC, things like printing use the native OS X driver, and I expect it to work the same way in the Intel version.

In other words, I wouldn't worry about it too much
Last I heard, Microsoft was still kind of wishy-washy on creating an Intel-Mac version of VPC. And I understand that the PowerPC version will not run under Rosetta. So VPC may not be an option for people with Intel-based Macs.
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my question is. what happens, when the inevitable happens (meaning, the macintels are running any windows variant) AND let as us mac "newbies" start plugging in their no name scanner or printer or whatever and installing drivers and everything. and it crashes "windows" or should i say the mac!?!

and would these people go complaining and say "the mac is unstable (and expensive)"?

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I just donated $50. If it gets this project up and running I consider it well worth the money.
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This is after 1 day of being up. If this somehow gets to $10,000 (Doubt it.) I think there are going to be people out there who will take this very seriously. Hell a couple of Windows programmers could get into the act.
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Hell a couple of Windows programmers could get into the act.
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If this somehow gets to $10,000 (Doubt it.)
$2450...that's a helluva response so far.
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Does anyone know if anyone has tried windows xp x64?
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$2450...that's a helluva response so far.

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