Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:23 PM   #1
MacRumors
macrumors bot
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite May Launch Separately Despite Integration Features




While iOS and Mac OS X have traditionally followed different release schedules, Apple's recently announced Continuity features suggested it was possible for Apple's two operating systems to debut at the same time. However, Apple is planning to stagger the releases of both iOS 8 and Mac OS X Yosemite, reports 9to5Mac, citing sources with knowledge of Apple's plans.

iOS 8 is expected to launch in September alongside the iPhone 6 while OS X Yosemite will not launch until October. Apple used the same release schedule last year, launching iOS 7 alongside the iPhone 5s in September and OS X Mavericks one month later in October.

Continuity allows users to work seamlessly between iPhone, iPad and Mac, with the ability to start emails on one device and easily finish it on another, or using Macs and iPads to answer phone calls and "green bubble" text messages. Because iOS and OS X have never been designed to work better together than with iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite, many saw a dual release as a good opportunity for Apple to cross-promote both its iOS devices and Macs with a stand-out new feature like Continuity.

Apple is planning on using engineering and user interface design members from the iOS team to help complete OS X Yosemite in time for a fall release, with a public beta planned as early as*later this month.

Article Link: iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite May Launch Separately Despite Integration Features
MacRumors is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:29 PM   #2
Watabou
macrumors 68030
 
Watabou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: United States
That makes sense, Yosemite has far more bugs than iOS 8 does currently, and Apple also has to fix the numerous bugs in Swift and Xcode 6. September may not be enough time for them.
__________________
Haswell 15" rMBP (2.3Ghz, 16GB, 750M GT) | iPhone 5 | Check out Lyrical on the MAS! | Last.fm
Watabou is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:30 PM   #3
joneill55
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
We knew that :-)

Apple kerned the** HARD WAY** after the MobileMe Disaster...... too many products out of the gate at once invites disaster and MM was a disaster at launch!
joneill55 is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:31 PM   #4
AngerDanger
macrumors 65816
 
AngerDanger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: doing the Dada Polka
Uh, no, this is not okay with me. I want them to be rushed, released simultaneously, and full of bugs that make using both an absolute nightmare.
AngerDanger is offline   14 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:32 PM   #5
brendu
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Watabou View Post
That makes sense, Yosemite has far more bugs than iOS 8 does currently, and Apple also has to fix the numerous bugs for the Swift 1.0 and Xcode 6 releases. September may not be enough time for them.
Thats funny, aside from a new safari bug in beta 4, Yosemite has been nearly rock solid for me on two machines while iOS 8 has been reasonably buggy.

I agree though that it makes sense to stagger the releases of the software. It also helps Apples servers from getting crushed twice as hard when both are released.
brendu is offline   5 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:33 PM   #6
SpinThis!
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Inside the Machine (Green Bay, WI)
Makes sense as a developer though as an end user it'll feel a little disappointing.

Depsite the beta process, it's only until the public gets their grubby mitts on it that other issues uncover here and there. Trying to do that for a major release is time consuming, now do that for two different OSes where Apple takes engineers off many projects and puts them on others. Rollouts are never seamless. Especially with the new iCloud/Drive integration that adds another wrinkle to get ironed out.
SpinThis! is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:37 PM   #7
appleguy123
macrumors 603
 
appleguy123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: 15 minutes in the future
It's like the Apple TV. AirPlay was the most heavily promoted feature on that device, but the iOS update wasn't released until a few months after the Apple TV was.
__________________
[Steve Jobs was] brave enough to think differently, bold enough to believe he could change the world, and talented enough to do it. -Barack Obama
appleguy123 is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:38 PM   #8
WhackyNinja
macrumors 68000
 
WhackyNinja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Send a message via Skype™ to WhackyNinja
Doesn't surprise me, It would make sense for Apple to follow Mavericks' release month of October
__________________
13'' MacBook Pro (Late 2011); OS X Yosemite 10.10.1; Windows 8.1
Google Nexus 5 32GB; Android 5.0

"Am I a good man?" -The Twelfth Doctor
WhackyNinja is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:41 PM   #9
Rogifan
macrumors G3
 
Rogifan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
And if this doesn't turn out to be true will Gurman claim it's because of his leak?
__________________
"When we se something huge and powerful we aspire to make it small and meaningful." Jony Ive 
Rogifan is online now   9 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:44 PM   #10
Watabou
macrumors 68030
 
Watabou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: United States
Quote:
Originally Posted by brendu View Post
Thats funny, aside from a new safari bug in beta 4, Yosemite has been nearly rock solid for me on two machines while iOS 8 has been reasonably buggy.

I agree though that it makes sense to stagger the releases of the software. It also helps Apples servers from getting crushed twice as hard when both are released.
There are still a lot of outstanding radars left for Yosemite. DP 4 feels more stable than DP 3 sure, but as far as responsiveness, app stability, and UI bugs go, there are still a lot of work Apple has to do.

iOS 8 on the other hand feels pretty stable to me. So you can see, different people have different bugs.
__________________
Haswell 15" rMBP (2.3Ghz, 16GB, 750M GT) | iPhone 5 | Check out Lyrical on the MAS! | Last.fm
Watabou is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:46 PM   #11
bkends35
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by brendu View Post
Thats funny, aside from a new safari bug in beta 4, Yosemite has been nearly rock solid for me on two machines while iOS 8 has been reasonably buggy.

I agree though that it makes sense to stagger the releases of the software. It also helps Apples servers from getting crushed twice as hard when both are released.
Same here, Yosemite has been very solid after beta 2 and iOS 8 for me is still very buggy.
__________________
Mid-2012 15" rMBP 512GB
iPhone 5s 32GB
Nexus 5 Android L
Galaxy S3 CM11 (aka lag fest)
bkends35 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:47 PM   #12
The Doctor11
macrumors 68040
 
The Doctor11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: USA
Then apple will cry because they don't get record breaking numbers for the launch of iOS 8
__________________
iPhone 6, iPad 3rd gen, Apple TV, Airport Express
Guys my iPhone 4 bent. Idk what happened I just put it in my pocket...
Please subscribe to me on YouTube
The Doctor11 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:48 PM   #13
dannyyankou
macrumors 68030
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
This wouldn't be the first time an iOS and OS X that shared the same features launched separately. Remember iCloud Keychain?
dannyyankou is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:48 PM   #14
Traverse
macrumors 68020
 
Traverse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Here
Well, I think they have always launched separately. I assume iOS 8 will be released about a week (maybe the same day) after the iPhone 6 announcement.

OS X Yosemite will be released during a Mac announcement; most likely during the MacBook Pro and Air announcements.

It would be an awfully crowded announcement to detail two new iPhones, iOS 8, AND OS X at the same time, but possible.
Traverse is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 09:54 PM   #15
nikicampos
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
OMG!! shocking news

This would be news if at least the past 3 or 4 years OS X and iOS had been released on the same day, they were not.
nikicampos is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 10:05 PM   #16
Robert.Walter
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Don't forget, for those non-developer types that are really hot to have the Yosemite and iOS 8 in action prior to the official release of Yosemite, Apple made a million Yosemite public beta licenses available.

By the time the public beta is available, all the big bugs will be a) worked-out, and b) anything remaining will be relatively small that the public-beta crowd will be prepared to accept and proud to contribute feedback to Apple on.

Apple will not risk reputation by putting out a mission-endangering public beta of Yosemite as they are looking forward to the buzz created by a million OSX evangelists...

In this way, the evangelists will be touting the features of continuity to their friends and help to drive first day sales and rapid pace software upgrades to the iOS and osx installed base.
Robert.Walter is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 10:06 PM   #17
blue-fireball
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Honestly, these betas/previews have more bugs that the previous three generations did at this point. They need plenty of time to make iOS 8 stable, and even more time to make Yosemite feature complete and stable. I would be pleasantly very surprised if they actually shipped Yosemite in October with the features they promised. It is an ambitious update.
blue-fireball is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 10:16 PM   #18
Prof.
macrumors 601
 
Prof.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chicago
Seeing how buggy Mavericks was, please take all the time you need, Apple.
__________________
I have not seen proven proof that [climate change] is entirely man-made. - Joni Ernst, (R) Iowa
And the Republican party isn't the party of stupid? Okay.
Prof. is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 10:17 PM   #19
Tubamajuba
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by brendu View Post
Thats funny, aside from a new safari bug in beta 4, Yosemite has been nearly rock solid for me on two machines while iOS 8 has been reasonably buggy.
Agreed. I had to go back to iOS 7.1.2 because even basic things like the Messages app weren't functioning for me in iOS 8; the only issue I've had in Yosemite is Safari crashing but DP4 seems to have fixed that for me. All in all, Yosemite is running flawlessly for me.

But everyone has different usage patterns, so our experiences may differ from that of others.
Tubamajuba is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 10:23 PM   #20
PocketSand11
macrumors 6502a
 
PocketSand11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: ~/
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prof. View Post
Seeing how buggy Mavericks was, please take all the time you need, Apple.
I too am worried about how buggy Yosemite could be, since it's based on Mavericks. They should just fork it straight from Mountain Lion instead to save themselves the trouble of debugging.
__________________
'08 MP, '09 MBP, JB iPhone 5
Fun fact: iPhone 5 aspect ratio = 640/1136 ≈ .5634. 9/16 = .5625. 639/1136 = .5625. Its screen is exactly one pixel too wide to be 9:16.
PocketSand11 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 10:28 PM   #21
Futurix
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: London
Currently iCloud for iOS 8 / Yosemite is incompatible with iCloud for iOS 7 / Mavericks - I really hope Apple will fix this or millions of users will be in for a world of pain!

Explanation: switching to iCloud Drive currently breaks iCloud document sync for earlier operating systems.
Futurix is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 10:43 PM   #22
wigby
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
No one expected a simultaneous release and Apple never even hinted at such a thing.

This just in...Apple won't release iPhone 6 and iPad Air 2 on the same day.
wigby is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 10:59 PM   #23
Tanegashima
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Portugal
I don't believe, they are even releasing DP's simultaneously.
__________________
Late 2013 MacBook Pro 13" Retina hi-end (prev: 2010 MBP 15", 2008 MBB 13")
iPad Air 16GB Wifi (prev: iPad 2)
iPhone 5S 16GB (prev: lagdroid)
Tanegashima is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 11:02 PM   #24
oatman13
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by PocketSand11 View Post
I too am worried about how buggy Yosemite could be, since it's based on Mavericks. They should just fork it straight from Mountain Lion instead to save themselves the trouble of debugging.
If Apple were to do this I'd personally pay them a visit at Apple HQ and slap every engineer across the face. Mavericks has some of the BEST additions to the Mac OS since its inception. Compressed Memory, GL4, Time Coalescing, AppNap, etc...
oatman13 is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Jul 22, 2014, 11:03 PM   #25
haruhiko
macrumors 68030
 
haruhiko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
I don't care about the release schedules but Apple please make features really work between OS X and iOS, yes, I mean the current AirDrop which doesn't support dropping files between OS X and iOS, which is supposed to be fixed in OS X Yosemite and iOS 8.
__________________
rMBP'12 15" 2.3GHz, iPad Air 2 LTE 64GB, iPhone 6 Plus Space Grey 128GB
iMac'08/24",Mini'09,MBP'10/15",MBA'11/13". iPhone 5s,5,4S,4,3GS. iPT: 3,1. iPad: Air,4,3,2,1,Mini2. ATV'12,'11, AEBS'09,TC'13.
haruhiko is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:18 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC