More Apple Tablet Patents - Gesture User Interface?

MacRumors · 07:54 AM

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A search at the US Patent and Trademark Office reveals a number of new Apple patent aplpications that relate to the long-rumored Apple Tablet based computer. The most recent patents appeared on February 2nd, with a filing date as recent as January 18th, 2005.

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Gestures for touch sensitive input devices - Methods and systems for processing touch inputs are disclosed. The invention in one respect includes reading data from a multipoint sensing device such as a multipoint touch screen where the data pertains to touch input with respect to the multipoint sensing device, and identifying at least one multipoint gesture based on the data from the multipoint sensing device.

Mode-based graphical user interfaces for touch sensitive input devices - A user interface method is disclosed. The method includes detecting a touch and then determining a user interface mode when a touch is detected. The method further includes activating one or more GUI elements based on the user interface mode and in response to the detected touch.

Touch-sensitive electronic apparatus for media applications, and methods therefor - The electronic mixing apparatus or the electronic keyboard apparatus is provided on a touch screen that provides user input and display capabilities.

Visual expander - A computer implemented method for a touchscreen display is disclosed. The method includes presenting graphical information on the touchscreen display. The method further includes detecting a touch over the touchscreen display. The method also includes expanding an area of the touch screen display proximate the location of the touch.

Hrmph.com posts photos from the gesture patent depicting a user using gestures on a tablet user interface.

Chaszmyr · Feb 2, 2006, 07:03 AM

I think we all know that Apple isn't going to release a tablet unless they can do it much better than has ever been done before. I'd say these patents are just the beginning.

odedia · Feb 2, 2006, 07:06 AM

Looking at those photos, I'd say Apple should invest alot in stain-resistant displays

AP_piano295 · Feb 2, 2006, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaszmyr

I think we all know that Apple isn't going to release a tablet unless they can do it much better than has ever been done before. I'd say these patents are just the beginning.

none the less here comes the mactab

Chaszmyr · Feb 2, 2006, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AP_piano295

none the less here comes the mactab

Should we start trying to guess the name? My guess is MacPod

willwoodgate · Feb 2, 2006, 07:08 AM

Not being a grouch, I'm not taking much notice of this news just yet. Apple have bought hundreds of patents over the years, and very few have ever become actual products. In the furture - who knows? We were all expecting an application at MacWorld called "Numbers" but nothing came along.
Apple seams to operate on a precationary principle - protecting its ideas and storing them for future use.
But hey, a Tablet Mac - that would be quite neat!

Texas04 · Feb 2, 2006, 07:12 AM

Unless its an 8" ipod with a camera built in to the pixels im not that interested

Indo · Feb 2, 2006, 07:12 AM

the patent on the name "Mac Pro" did include tablet computers...

splintah · Feb 2, 2006, 07:15 AM

mac book pro with touch sesitive wacom like screen

man that would be great

Marvy · Feb 2, 2006, 07:15 AM

I'm imagining some sort of tablet mac, that supports gestures, but also scanning paper that is laid on the screen (as suggested in that rumor about the sensor-pixels that Apple also patented), and finally an integrated printer to allow output onto paper. Wouldn't that be COOOL?

Don't ask me if it's techically possible, but I would love to have a mobile mac that can scan, print and read my gestures

Chundles · Feb 2, 2006, 07:17 AM

Touch sensitive capabilities built into new Cinema displays - like the 21" Wacom one. That would be cool and very handy for artists etc.

kenzbud · Feb 2, 2006, 07:20 AM

Wow, if this came out... truly this would be the Intel Mac to have. I bet it would make some of the people holding out for Photoshop to buy a Intel Mac sooner.

Abstract · Feb 2, 2006, 07:27 AM

Wow, tablets are so useful! I can......uh.....um.............surf the net with it!

It's cool, but not useful for the large large majority of us. So cool factor is high, but practicality is low unless the display's touch screen is good enough to draw on well.

Butters · Feb 2, 2006, 07:35 AM

I don't think I or a lot of people for that matter need a tablet, I've never even considered looking at tablet PCs before

But I'm sure Apple could change all that.
It's not likely to happen soon if at all I agree but with all these patents one has to wonder.

Bad Beaver · Feb 2, 2006, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abstract

Wow, tablets are so useful! I can......uh.....um.............surf the net with it!

It's cool, but not useful for the large large majority of us. So cool factor is high, but practicality is low unless the display's touch screen is good enough to draw on well.

Things Tables Are Good For:

- web surfing
- wireless remote control for your digital hub
- reading books
- drawing (high res screen needed)
- writing, especially if you need to put in formulas or prefer to keep a low profile. Laptops create artificial barriers in small workgroups.
- games (especially boardgames or tactical. Select your troops with the pen while setting the camera angle with the other hand. Sweet!)

Bad Beaver · Feb 2, 2006, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butters

I don't think I or a lot of people for that matter need a tablet, I've never even considered looking at tablet PCs before

But I'm sure Apple could change all that.
It's not likely to happen soon if at all I agree but with all these patents one has to wonder.

Yes, please rethink. Tablets are ideal for (university) students for example, provided they are light, have a rugged construction, and have ample battery life. Why would you want to lugg pounds of literature if you can have it all as PDF on a high res screen?

petej · Feb 2, 2006, 07:41 AM

video iPod with on screen controls.
Say goodbye to click wheels.

If nothing else, Apple are certain doing a lot of R&D even if nothing ever makes it to market and control surfaces are certainly going to get bigger. I can see several applications for changable control surfaces in video / audio mixing / TV remote controls. Maybe not the tablet computer though.

chabig · Feb 2, 2006, 07:43 AM

As usual, the websites have screwed up the story. These are NOT patents. They are patent APPLICATIONS. Very different. They may or may not survive examination and turn into patents, and those that do will likely turn out different than their applications after Apple and the USPTO have gone back and forth over the details.

It's certainly interesting to see what Apple is working on. But don't mistake applications alone for full-fledged patents. That's like confusing war plans with actual war. Big difference.

Chris

big · Feb 2, 2006, 07:45 AM

I read people want scanning, this is a great idea, though could it actually be done. Consider current technology, how would one do that in an integrated LCD display? Could the LCD be the scanner itself. There are some early version of translucent lcd displays, this seems like the way to go if you were to do this.

About the games, how cool would it be to have a virtual chess board. I would have to have GPS to justify this.... But I would stop just short of selling a kid to get something incredible like this.

gregarious119 · Feb 2, 2006, 07:58 AM

I don't think that this will be an addition to the MacBook line, I think the tablet is going to be a natural progression to replace it.

Rather than adding a full tablet line, I'm putting my money on MacBook's becoming convertable notebooks. Full size keyboard and LCD, but with the LCD on a hinge that can rotate and fold the screen down. This offers the best solution for those needing a "notebook" but having the flexibility to fold it down and use it as a tablet in meetings, watching DVD's, etc.

iAlan · Feb 2, 2006, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big

.... But I would stop just short of selling a kid to get something incredible like this.

Who needs kids when you can have a 'MacLet'

I was going to call it a 'MacTab' but that would sound like a low calorie soda from a fast food joint!

cb911 · Feb 2, 2006, 08:02 AM

that visual expander thing-ma-giny looks interesting!!

Chundles · Feb 2, 2006, 08:09 AM

Looks like we can only use the new UI elements if we have scary claw-like hands.

Check them out, they are seriously the weirdest hands I have ever seen.

backslash · Feb 2, 2006, 08:10 AM

Could this be the MacBook mini?

superleccy · Feb 2, 2006, 08:13 AM

I think the tablet computer idea is a bit of a red herring.

My guess is that they point to the next generation of video-enabled iPod. The problem with video on the 5G iPod is that the screen is way too small, making it inferior (well, arguably, and only in terms of Video) to the PSP and some of the Archos offerings. But, the screen could not be made any bigger due to the real-estate occupied by the click wheel.

So, let the screen cover the whole of the front of the iPod, and replace the click-wheel with some innovative kind of touch-sensitive gesture control on the screen itself. With a little Apple magic, it could be beautiful. Think... nice and shiny, lovely rounded corners, no moving parts, just a screen in your pocket.

But why stop there...? Throw in WiFi and maybe a simple web browser and a VOIP client and <insert wish-list here>, and you've got a tablet-computer-PDA-communications device in your pocket. Except it won't be any of those things... it'll still be an iPod.

Oh well, back to my day job...

Regards
Superleccy

Edit: Sorry petej, just saw your post... didn't mean to steal your idea.

Feb 2, 2006, 07:12 AM	#7
Texas04 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas	Unless its an 8" ipod with a camera built in to the pixels im not that interested __________________ My Computers- MacBook Pro 2.0 GHZ~ 1.25 GB Ram MacBook 1.86 GHZ 2GB Ram 30GB iPod Won from NASA (its engraved) Texas04's Website!

Feb 2, 2006, 07:12 AM	#8
Indo macrumors member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northern, VA	the patent on the name "Mac Pro" did include tablet computers... __________________ Rev. A Dual 1.8GHz G5, 2.5GB RAM, 160GB HD, Radeon 9600, 17" Apple LCD display Mac mini 1.42GHz, 80GB HD, 256MB RAM, Radeon 9200, 17" Samsung LCD display 4G 20GB iPod

Feb 2, 2006, 07:17 AM	#11
Chundles macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Gong, Australia	Touch sensitive capabilities built into new Cinema displays - like the 21" Wacom one. That would be cool and very handy for artists etc. __________________ This is going straight to the Pool Room

Feb 2, 2006, 07:27 AM	#13
Abstract macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: It's classified.	Wow, tablets are so useful! I can......uh.....um.............surf the net with it! It's cool, but not useful for the large large majority of us. So cool factor is high, but practicality is low unless the display's touch screen is good enough to draw on well. __________________ "Oh, I've always wanted to touch Stanley," signs teacher Fran Zakoor, embracing the kids… ESPN Article, 04/09/2008

Feb 2, 2006, 07:35 AM	#14
Butters macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK	I don't think I or a lot of people for that matter need a tablet, I've never even considered looking at tablet PCs before But I'm sure Apple could change all that. It's not likely to happen soon if at all I agree but with all these patents one has to wonder. __________________ Carbon Nine Design \| Project 365

Feb 2, 2006, 07:03 AM	#2
Chaszmyr macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boulder, CO	I think we all know that Apple isn't going to release a tablet unless they can do it much better than has ever been done before. I'd say these patents are just the beginning.

Feb 2, 2006, 07:06 AM	#3
odedia macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2005	Looking at those photos, I'd say Apple should invest alot in stain-resistant displays

Feb 2, 2006, 07:08 AM	#6
willwoodgate macrumors newbie Join Date: Dec 2005	Not being a grouch, I'm not taking much notice of this news just yet. Apple have bought hundreds of patents over the years, and very few have ever become actual products. In the furture - who knows? We were all expecting an application at MacWorld called "Numbers" but nothing came along. Apple seams to operate on a precationary principle - protecting its ideas and storing them for future use. But hey, a Tablet Mac - that would be quite neat!

Feb 2, 2006, 07:15 AM	#9
splintah macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2005	mac book pro with touch sesitive wacom like screen man that would be great

Feb 2, 2006, 07:15 AM	#10
Marvy macrumors regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Germany	I'm imagining some sort of tablet mac, that supports gestures, but also scanning paper that is laid on the screen (as suggested in that rumor about the sensor-pixels that Apple also patented), and finally an integrated printer to allow output onto paper. Wouldn't that be COOOL? Don't ask me if it's techically possible, but I would love to have a mobile mac that can scan, print and read my gestures

Feb 2, 2006, 07:20 AM	#12
kenzbud macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Seattle, WA	Wow, if this came out... truly this would be the Intel Mac to have. I bet it would make some of the people holding out for Photoshop to buy a Intel Mac sooner.

Feb 2, 2006, 07:41 AM	#17
petej macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2004	video iPod with on screen controls. Say goodbye to click wheels. If nothing else, Apple are certain doing a lot of R&D even if nothing ever makes it to market and control surfaces are certainly going to get bigger. I can see several applications for changable control surfaces in video / audio mixing / TV remote controls. Maybe not the tablet computer though.

Feb 2, 2006, 07:43 AM	#18
chabig macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2002	As usual, the websites have screwed up the story. These are NOT patents. They are patent APPLICATIONS. Very different. They may or may not survive examination and turn into patents, and those that do will likely turn out different than their applications after Apple and the USPTO have gone back and forth over the details. It's certainly interesting to see what Apple is working on. But don't mistake applications alone for full-fledged patents. That's like confusing war plans with actual war. Big difference. Chris

Feb 2, 2006, 07:45 AM	#19
big macrumors 65816 Join Date: Feb 2002	I read people want scanning, this is a great idea, though could it actually be done. Consider current technology, how would one do that in an integrated LCD display? Could the LCD be the scanner itself. There are some early version of translucent lcd displays, this seems like the way to go if you were to do this. About the games, how cool would it be to have a virtual chess board. I would have to have GPS to justify this.... But I would stop just short of selling a kid to get something incredible like this. __________________ akk

Feb 2, 2006, 07:58 AM	#20
gregarious119 macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH	I don't think that this will be an addition to the MacBook line, I think the tablet is going to be a natural progression to replace it. Rather than adding a full tablet line, I'm putting my money on MacBook's becoming convertable notebooks. Full size keyboard and LCD, but with the LCD on a hinge that can rotate and fold the screen down. This offers the best solution for those needing a "notebook" but having the flexibility to fold it down and use it as a tablet in meetings, watching DVD's, etc.

Feb 2, 2006, 08:02 AM	#22
cb911 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BrisVegas, Australia	that visual expander thing-ma-giny looks interesting!! __________________ Thankyou Mr George Hotz for the 1.1.2 & 1.1.3 OTB iPhone unlock solution!

Feb 2, 2006, 08:09 AM	#23
Chundles macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Gong, Australia	Looks like we can only use the new UI elements if we have scary claw-like hands. Check them out, they are seriously the weirdest hands I have ever seen. __________________ This is going straight to the Pool Room

Feb 2, 2006, 08:10 AM	#24
backslash macrumors newbie Join Date: Feb 2006	Could this be the MacBook mini?

Feb 2, 2006, 08:13 AM	#25
superleccy macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: England	I think the tablet computer idea is a bit of a red herring. My guess is that they point to the next generation of video-enabled iPod. The problem with video on the 5G iPod is that the screen is way too small, making it inferior (well, arguably, and only in terms of Video) to the PSP and some of the Archos offerings. But, the screen could not be made any bigger due to the real-estate occupied by the click wheel. So, let the screen cover the whole of the front of the iPod, and replace the click-wheel with some innovative kind of touch-sensitive gesture control on the screen itself. With a little Apple magic, it could be beautiful. Think... nice and shiny, lovely rounded corners, no moving parts, just a screen in your pocket. But why stop there...? Throw in WiFi and maybe a simple web browser and a VOIP client and <insert wish-list here>, and you've got a tablet-computer-PDA-communications device in your pocket. Except it won't be any of those things... it'll still be an iPod. Oh well, back to my day job... Regards Superleccy Edit: Sorry petej, just saw your post... didn't mean to steal your idea. __________________ 15" MBP: 2.4GHz C2D SR; now 4GB RAM; 160GB 5400rpm HD; Matte; 20" Cinema Disp. 14" iBook G4: 1.33GHz; 768MB RAM; 80GB HD. Switched Nov '04.

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