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Old Feb 2, 2006, 01:07 PM   #1
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Old Feb 2, 2006, 03:36 PM   #2
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Too cool And using the original screen! (Though a fitted color CRT would have been neat too.)

I was just last week thinking someone should put a Mini into one of the original "yellow" Macintoshes. An SE/30 is close enough!

And good concealment of the optical drive too.

The light in the disk drive is clever, but a better illusion would have blacked in that slot with felt, and let the light shine though the paperclip hole.

What really strikes me is... that old Mac is GIGANTIC! The Mini could get lost in there...
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Old Feb 2, 2006, 05:06 PM   #3
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Certainly is a cool mod and not one that I would have ever thought of. If I just saw this sitting on a desk, I'd probably look quickly, then do a double take and think WTF? How did they do that?
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Old Feb 2, 2006, 07:10 PM   #4
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What really strikes me is... that old Mac is GIGANTIC! The Mini could get lost in there...
So for the next project, gut a Quadra 950 and put a dozen minis in there, set up as an Xgrid cluster. ...

Actually, 12 minis probably wouldn't fit, but you could easily fit 6 in there with plenty of room for cables, power bricks, Ethernet hub, KVM and airflow.
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Old Feb 3, 2006, 09:35 AM   #5
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A 9" grayscale screen featuring 512x342 pixels... that'll get old quick.
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Old Feb 3, 2006, 09:39 AM   #6
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A 9" 1bit screen featuring 512x342 pixels... that'll get old quick.
It's not using the SE/30's video chip. It's taking the VGA output of the mini and attaching it directly to the CRT.

This probably means 640x480 grayscale and whatever depth you want to configure.
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Old Feb 3, 2006, 09:43 AM   #7
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It's not using the SE/30's video chip. It's taking the VGA output of the mini and attaching it directly to the CRT.

This probably means 640x480 grayscale and whatever depth you want to configure.
If you look at that final screenshot, it appears to be closer to 800x600 or 1024x768 or so... look at the menu bar and Safari - I don't think it's 640x480.
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Oh good point.. I looked up the spec for the screen on an SE/30 and the max resolution supported by that screen is 600x800.

So yeh... grayscale, 600x800.

Like I said. That'll get old quick.

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If you look at that final screenshot, it appears to be closer to 800x600 or 1024x768 or so... look at the menu bar and Safari - I don't think it's 640x480.
It does appear to be 1024x768 (the spacing is similar to my iBook's display). I'm surprised the SE's CRT could sync to that frequency, since they don't appear to have modified the SE's analog board (that controls the CRT).

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Oh good point.. I looked up the spec for the screen on an SE/30 and the max resolution supported by that screen is 600x800.

So yeh... 1bit, 600x800.
Please look at the picture. It's grayscale, not 1-bit.

This is quite useable.
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Please look at the picture. It's grayscale, not 1-bit.

This is quite useable.
Posts edited to reflect such.

You're right. Its gray scale. But you're wrong that it's usable.

Imho.
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But you're wrong that it's usable.

Imho.
Really? Looks like a perfectly usable screen to me. Plus it's nicely portable and also likely uses very little power.

Given that I'm posting this from a 640x200 screen (albeit w/color)*, I'm pretty sure 800x600 or 1024x768 greyscale is usable.

Particularly to those of us who've used 640x480 greyscale screens - or less - in the days of old.

(*) I went to my Nokia 9500 just for this post. Yes, not as nice as a megapixel display, but usable - and certainly I'd've preferred the one shown in the SE to my phone's.
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So for the next project, gut a Quadra 950 and put a dozen minis in there, set up as an Xgrid cluster.
Or, stack about 6 Minis inside that same SE/30, with a color LCD panel to replace the screen But wait for Core Solo.

PS, if you want to play around, in System Preferences you can set ANY Mac to 640x480, 800x600, or 1024x768, and then in Universal Access you can set the display to grayscale. I'm running 10x7 gray now just for kicks

EDIT: Make that Core Solo and while you're messing with your display settings, try "white on black"--if you do that without grayscale you get a color negative that looks kinda cool! And readable too. But white-on-black looks best with Strong font smoothing (less color fringing). Remember that you must log out and back in (or at least quit all apps and re-launch Finder) to see a new font smoothing setting.

(I also used the negative effect plus color calibration in System Prefs to give my OS X a "green screen" look and an amber look. You can re-color even the grayscale mode that way. It's like having a whole new Mac! From the 70s.)

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