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eicca

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So I got my MacBook in the summer of 11, instantly put OSX 10.7 on it, got easily 7 hours of battery out of it with Mail, Safari, iTunes, Calendar, and a few other things running in the background.

Skipped Mountain Lion and upgraded straight to Mavericks earlier this year and my battery instantly got slashed to 4 hours. I just lived with it since I figured maybe it was an old battery.

Upgraded to Yosemite last week and decided to dig into this battery issue. My cycle count is just over 300, well within healthy spec. So I disabled a whole bunch of features I don't need, uninstalled any unnecessary software, rebooted in Safe Mode, rebooted into normal mode and ran the battery until empty and it shut itself down. Restarted. 8 HOURS REMAINING! That's more like it! I thought maybe the battery needed calibrating so I used it for a few hours and plugged it in to charge overnight.

IT'S BACK TO 4 HOURS!! I said "heck with this" and wiped the hard drive, reinstalled OSX 10.10 and checked the battery with a full charge and a brand new system. Says I have 9 hours remaining. Ok, that's impressive. Maybe I had a bad preference file or something in there leftover from my OS upgrades.

So I spent all night copying over JUST my files (documents, music and pictures, 188GB free on my 320GB drive) and Call of Duty and YNAB. I enabled iCloud and Gmail in internet accounts and installed Dropbox and Caffeine. That's it. Other than exactly what I stated my system is completely fresh.

IT'S BACK TO 4 HOURS!! GAAAAAAH! I quit Dropbox and Caffeine, disabled the iCloud and Gmail internet accounts, shut off Spotlight indexing and that still didn't fix it! HOW DO I GET MY 8-9 HOURS?!

I seriously do not understand. It seems as if merely having data on the hard drive causes the battery to drain. The only other thing it could possibly be is a background process that comes with Dropbox that has been screwing me over since May this year. Which is bad, I need Dropbox.

Any and all help is appreciated before I have a heart attack.
 

cjmillsnun

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I recommend installing coconut battery. It will tell you the condition of your battery. Cycles aren't a definitive answer in determining the health of your battery
 

Bending Pixels

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Keep in mind that installing new applications will cause Yosemite to start indexing that new stuff - and that'll quickly reduce the estimated battery time.

Depending upon what I'm running, the estimated battery time will vary anywhere from 3 hours (if I'm running something like Motion 5, PS CC, etc.) and then jump back to 6 or 7 hours if I close those and just open Safari. Certain app's are more processor intensive which sucks more juice.
 

eicca

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Battery health is 90%.

I've gotten it to function at 8-hour efficiency twice now, I know something is wrong here.

Why would adding data to the hard disk cause energy usage? Could my hard disk be failing?
 

eicca

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Keep in mind that installing new applications will cause Yosemite to start indexing that new stuff - and that'll quickly reduce the estimated battery time.

Depending upon what I'm running, the estimated battery time will vary anywhere from 3 hours (if I'm running something like Motion 5, PS CC, etc.) and then jump back to 6 or 7 hours if I close those and just open Safari. Certain app's are more processor intensive which sucks more juice.

I excluded the entire hard drive from Spotlight search and it made no difference; indexing is not the issue.
 

poiihy

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Estimated time left is not accurate, especially right after fresh install. That 8 hours was probably going to turn into 4 anyway. I don't think it is any of your stuff.

If Lion had 8 hours and Yosemite had 4 hours then maybe Lion is better for your machine? Or maybe the estimate in lion is less accurate than Yosemite?
 

eicca

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Estimated time left is not accurate, especially right after fresh install. That 8 hours was probably going to turn into 4 anyway. I don't think it is any of your stuff.

If Lion had 8 hours and Yosemite had 4 hours then maybe Lion is better for your machine? Or maybe the estimate in lion is less accurate than Yosemite?

Here's the thing, I watch both the estimated time remaining and the percentage. The percentage drop was considerably slower when the time remaining estimate was around 9 hours, and I used the computer extensively to confirm.
 

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Mine showed about 8 hours after a new install, than later it went back up to around 12 hours plus. This is after indexing. Doing another install will set you back again with a short battery life showing. Leave it alone for awhile, and look at it again later.
 

eicca

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I seriously have my suspicions about the hard drive. And I wouldn't mind an excuse to put in an SSD.

Any input on the failing disk theory?
 

poiihy

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Here's the thing, I watch both the estimated time remaining and the percentage. The percentage drop was considerably slower when the time remaining estimate was around 9 hours, and I used the computer extensively to confirm.

Then probably Yosemite is harder on your battery than Lion. Use Lion. Lion is still supported.

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I seriously have my suspicions about the hard drive. And I wouldn't mind an excuse to put in an SSD.

Any input on the failing disk theory?

Don't think so

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Mine showed about 8 hours after a new install, than later it went back up to around 12 hours plus. This is after indexing. Doing another install will set you back again with a short battery life showing. Leave it alone for awhile, and look at it again later.

It still happened even when op disabled spotlight.
 

eicca

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I never once saw my battery perform better that 7:30 on Lion though. If I can get 8+ on Yosemite (which I have..................) I'm stayin'.

I am 99% sure that something is wrong.
 

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"My cycle count is just over 300, well within healthy spec"

Actually no its not. Using a count only does not tell you the whole battery story. Its also the age of the battery which has been discussed not too long ago. Your battery is now about 3 years plus old and that does have something to do with it..
 

eicca

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CoconutBattery told my my battery health is 90%. Going from Lion's standards, I should be getting a minimum of 6:20. I'm still only seeing 5 tops, even after all the "energy improvements" to OSX.

I'm going to run it completely dead again and see what happens.
 
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