Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > Archive > Archives of Old Posts > Macintosh Computers

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Jan 22, 2003, 05:01 PM   #1
phantommaul
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: istanbul,Turkey
Send a message via ICQ to phantommaul Send a message via MSN to phantommaul
why people want a video iPod

i dont understand people want apple to release a 40 gig video ipod what is so special about watching .mov files in an 3,5" display which is just trailers or maybe iMovie video files.

it will only result with 1 hour battery life and uncomfortable useage, who has the ability to watch pocket tvs and walk on the road simultanously its not like listening to music.

tell me your ideas

----------------------------
wash your shame in the rivers of our enemies blood
-kenji g.t.a 3
__________________
iSaint
phantommaul is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 05:31 PM   #2
RBMaraman
macrumors 65816
 
RBMaraman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Prospect, KY
I have often wondered the same thing. I think it's one of the stupidest moves Apple could make. They have worked so hard to build the iPod as the top of the line MP3 player. If they add video features, they would have to take on a completely different marketing strategry. Not to mention the price! A video iPod would probably start at $600 to $700. Battery life would be horrible and viewing on that little screen would be next to impossible (The eyeglasses industry would surely benefit from all of the vision problems people would encounter). I don't see a video iPod happening anytime in the future. If those portable DVD players with viewing screens had been hugely successful, then I would consider this a good idea. But, for now, it's just another stupid idea.
RBMaraman is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 05:44 PM   #3
MacFan25
macrumors 68000
 
MacFan25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: USA
I don't understand it either. Mainly, because who knows how much money it would cost for a video iPod.
__________________
Folding FAQ - Find out exactly what folding is and how to join MacRumors Team Folding!
MacFan25 is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 05:53 PM   #4
Over Achiever
macrumors 68000
 
Over Achiever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Toledo, OH, formerly Twin Cities, MN
Send a message via AIM to Over Achiever Send a message via Yahoo to Over Achiever Send a message via Skype™ to Over Achiever
Quote:
Originally posted by RBMaraman
Not to mention the price! A video iPod would probably start at $600 to $700. Battery life would be horrible and viewing on that little screen would be next to impossible (The eyeglasses industry would surely benefit from all of the vision problems people would encounter).
http://www.archos.com/lang=en//products/prw_500375.html

More like $400 for a 20 GB model...and it'd be near top end too.

I see the video iPod as an option for those who want to buy it...keep the original iPods. Just an addition to the line...it'll sell IMO.
__________________
"Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment."
Panasonic Lumix GF1 • 11" MBA | Dell XT • Google Nexus One
Over Achiever is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 06:00 PM   #5
strider42
macrumors 65816
 
strider42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
what I'd like to see is something like an iPod with a larger color screen with some way to play gameboy advance games on it or something. Maybe MAME and other emulators could be ported to it and you could have a huge games library stored on the hard drive.

Note that I don't really think apple should do this. I just think it would be pretty cool.
strider42 is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 06:13 PM   #6
peter2002
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Duhh...

Watch porno anywhere.
peter2002 is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 06:57 PM   #7
mnkeybsness
macrumors 68030
 
mnkeybsness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Moneyapolis, Minnesota
Send a message via AIM to mnkeybsness
the archos is nice because you can plug it into the tv

portability...

but then again...why not just make a dvd?
__________________
Scribbls - a collaborative drawing community designed to combine drawings into outcomes—no talent required.
mnkeybsness is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 07:33 PM   #8
janey
macrumors 603
 
janey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: sunny los angeles
instead of a video iPod, why not make a cell phone as well?
__________________
iPad | 15" MacBook Pro | black (iPhone 3GS|MacBook) | Mac mini server
moof!

janey is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 08:45 PM   #9
MacFan25
macrumors 68000
 
MacFan25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Over Achiever
I see the video iPod as an option for those who want to buy it...keep the original iPods. Just an addition to the line...it'll sell IMO.
Yes, that would be a good idea. But do you think that a video iPod would sell as good as the regular iPod?
__________________
Folding FAQ - Find out exactly what folding is and how to join MacRumors Team Folding!
MacFan25 is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 09:21 PM   #10
iGod
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
the next best thing

iPod and iTunes mean that I don't have to lug around a big case of CDs everywhere I go if I want music. In fact my entire CD collection lives in a cardboard box somewhere at the bottom of my closet.
The VideoPod (not a replacement for the iPod - that would be a silly business move) might mean death for my DVD collection which currently takes up shelves of space...besides, I could watch DVDs or movie trailers in economy class on the plane, on the subway, or wherever. I could take my DVD collection overseas or to a friend's house and hook it up to their TV! I could show off my short films or photos to anyone at anytime.
30 seconds in an elevator with Steven Spielberg? Hello, Videopod!
Besides, it will probably support iCal and I would have my colorful schedule (and alarm feature) wherever I go!
A VideoPod could spawn a host of new services - e.g. downloadable music videos to go! Download the morning news for the commute! The uses are endless. The product would not be stupid or a waste of time, rather it would truly revolutionize the way we do things on the go.
A VideoPod would be the best thing since the original iPod...or better.
__________________
"Like Steve McQueen, all I need's a fast machine!"
- Sheryl Crow ("Steve McQueen")
iGod is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 09:54 PM   #11
MrMacMan
macrumors 601
 
MrMacMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: 1 Block away from NYC.
Send a message via AIM to MrMacMan
Re: Duhh...

Quote:
Originally posted by peter2002
Watch porno anywhere.
har har, but with such a small screen your eyes are gonna need to be so close
|| = Screen
o = eye
||o

I would like to see one because apple would make it a killer peice of hardware.
__________________
There is a little Steve in all of us!
-->Folding is Fighting Against Disease and help MacRumors. Join Today!<--
Props to --> Shadowfax For Making My Avatar!
IM Me On AIM Already!
MrMacMan is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 10:18 PM   #12
DavidFDM
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Maine, USA
Send a message via AIM to DavidFDM
The only thing I can think of is . . .

Leave the iPod as is but increase the hard drive capacity as larger 1.8" drives become available. Modify the output port to allow the connection of video goggles. Don't worry about the screen showing the video; let the goggles handle it. The ones on the market today can simulate a large screen. Check this out:

http://www.courier-journal.com/gizweb/cols/01/0109b.htm

Unfortunately, these things are way expensive. Maybe the prices are coming down.

Warmest regards from the frozen state of Maine,

David
DavidFDM is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 11:44 PM   #13
MontanaMacster
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Very far from any Apple Stores
Send a message via Yahoo to MontanaMacster
I hope it comes out

Just so the prices on the normal ipods come down. Untill I will just have to stick with my mp3 discman
__________________
I'm just one of the "Crazy Ones"
MontanaMacster is offline   0
Old Jan 22, 2003, 11:57 PM   #14
LethalWolfe
macrumors Demi-God
 
LethalWolfe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Los Angeles
The screen on my e310 (Toshiba PDA) is 4" diagonal (the iPod's is 2") and I don't think I could stand watching video for an extended period of time (like the length of a movie) on a sceen any smaller than my e310's.

Not to mention the fact that yer DVD movie you want to put onto the video iPod is probably in widescreen. So what, yer goona watch a movie that's like 1" tall?

Video on an iPod would be a nice party trick, but I don't think it would be a much used feature 1 month after you bought it.


Lethal
LethalWolfe is offline   0
Old Jan 23, 2003, 12:36 AM   #15
MacQuest
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: You See Dead People...
Send a message via AIM to MacQuest Send a message via Yahoo to MacQuest
I got a little carried away to say the least...

I'm torn. This may or may not work.

I think the video iPod [EyePod?...hmm, note to self: tradekmark quickly] could be a welcome addition to the Apple DLD family as a high end, multi-tasking unit.

More than an iPod but not as powerful or flexible as a laptop. Around the $549 range [half the price of the lowest end iBook] would entice me.

Of course the current iPods would have to see a price drop of $100-150.00, with the lowest prices being $149[5gig], $249[10gig], $349[20gig].

I could see myself managing [iSync] my contact [Address Book] and calendar [iCal] information as well as downloading and viewing, or presenting my stored e-mails [Mail], mp3's [iTunes], mpeg4's [Quicktime], photos [iPhoto], slideshows [Keynote] and using Rendezvous to play the stored materials on your other Rendezvous enabled devices from 3rd party manufacturers like Philips or any of the other boatload of hardware manufacturers that have committed to adopting rendezvous.

To compliment the above [crossed fingers:] Apple iLife Hub [or whatever] with built in Rendezvous, Airport Extreme, a/v line in's to connect your EyePod or any capable Mac, HDTV decoder, of course to compliment Apple's new 30"+ HD television/monitor.

OK, so I got a little carried away. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE.....

ooohh...Brainstorm! Or fart, whichever you choose to describe the following: What if the EyePod was marketed not only to consumers, but to business folk as well, by including a VGA out port to connect to a projector?

If the design remained small enough to be utilized by one hand such as the current iPod, then the EyePod could double as a pointing device for business presentations by using the current controls to navigate through the slide shows.

Add a microphone like the ones on the flat panel iMacs, and now you've got a memo/dictation device as well.

3.5" Color LCD, 30+ gig hard drive, built-in bluetooth...etc.

Optional accessories would inevitably be made by 3rd party manufacturers if not Apple itself. For example, an add-on mini-keyboard, camera/webcam attachment for still photo and video conferencing.

I know this is a TOTAL wishlist, but if you think about it, at least in terms of the EyePod, most of this is already do-able, we're not talking about re-inventing anything, just implementing existing technologies and seamlessly integrating them, just like Apple did with iLife.

Suddenly I'm not so torn as I stated at first.

I think this could work. A carefully balanced hybrid of the iPod, PDA, digital camera, mini-video player, etc., etc.

Hey if anyone could do it, it's Apple.

Mr. Jobs, may I call you Steve? Let's Do Lunch...
__________________
ROFLMAO
Sep 1, 2007, 12:27 AM: "You really are quite hooked on this new and great multitouch. ... So please tell me what are the benefits of the multitouch screen in iPhone[?]"
FAIL meets EPIC.
MacQuest is offline   0
Old Jan 23, 2003, 12:54 AM   #16
WannabeSQ
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Send a message via AIM to WannabeSQ
instead of a video iPod, I envision something larger due to screen size, and more functionality than simply a media player. What I envision is somewhat of a tablet PDA type thing, with an OSX like palm OS. Not a shrunken OSX, but a streamlined OS that looks and feels like OSX. It would use 2.5" hard drives, up to 60 gb have airport extreme built in, sync to iCal, iTunes, address book, quicktime, basically everything, and have basic PDA features. I think it should be about the size of a palm but perhaps bigger. Kinda like the OQO thing that never really happened.

or, make an ultra lite laptop without an optical drive, non fullzize keyboard, and a swiveling screen, but still run the full OSX, and be dockable so at work and home it is a fully functioning PC.
WannabeSQ is offline   0
Old Jan 24, 2003, 12:44 PM   #17
blogo
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Why not bundle the iPod with a 40" widescreen TV?
blogo is offline   0
Old Jan 24, 2003, 02:36 PM   #18
yzedf
Banned
 
yzedf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Connecticut
Send a message via AIM to yzedf
videoPod would be a waste.

40GB iPod with FireWire 800 is perfect, assuming transfers can utilize the extra bandwidth.
yzedf is offline   0
Old Jan 25, 2003, 06:54 PM   #19
svenmagnus
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Apple should make an iPod with a compact flash card adapter,
so that you can download all your images from your digital camera to the iPod,
and then view it on the screen.

The only problem that i could foresee is that
there are way too many types of flash storage
out their, and there is really no way for the iPod
to handle them all.
svenmagnus is offline   0
Old Jan 25, 2003, 10:36 PM   #20
Natron
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
I, for one, would like something similar to a video iPod. However, I think it should be a seperate device, and they should leave the iPod as is. The current screen size is just to small for video, photos, or pictures.

I'm thinking of a device, larger than the iPod, with options for a 40GB harddrive, you could store your presentations from keynote, movies from iMovie, and photos from iPhoto, and then be able to connect to a TV to display them. It would also be cool to connect such a thing to a projector, for use in a slideshow. The iTunes visuals would look pretty cool on a TV.

I like the idea of downloading the news to something like this.

I think this would make DVD's used for storage, as opposed to the only way to get movies and photos onto a TV. I would rather store my videos on this and use it to show them, and then when I have enough to fill a DVD, I create a DVD. No point in wasting a $5...er...$3 DVD for one short video.

Maybe Steve will have something like this made for him, and then share it with us.

Maybe he already has it......

Of course, I'm also still hoping for a set-top device for you home entertainment system that would store movies, photos, and music that you could play over your TV or stereo. It would, of course, be Airport capable.

-Natron
Natron is offline   0
Old Jan 26, 2003, 12:31 AM   #21
austincpy
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Long Beach, CA
Send a message via AIM to austincpy
i think that they should keep the iPod as is, but make things to fit it's FireWire port to expand its capabilities. I'm 13, and i love my iPod, but it just doesn't do enough as is
austincpy is offline   0
Old Jan 26, 2003, 12:42 AM   #22
Natron
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
I think the iPod does what is was designed to do very well. I'm not sure if Apple is going to expand it to do more or not.

With software, Apple seems to be shooting for single apps that do one thing very well (Mail, Address Book, and iCal, instead of a big Entourage-like app).

I'm not sure if Apple is applying the same philosophy with hardware, but I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

I'm assuming a video iPod would be more expensive than the current iPods, so I expect the current iPods to stay around.

-Natron
Natron is offline   0


 
MacRumors Forums > Archive > Archives of Old Posts > Macintosh Computers

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Are people in the iPhone 5 contract cycle luckier than people in the 4 S? Myiphone7 iPhone 18 Jul 8, 2014 09:16 AM
iPad: How can you take a video with the ipad without people thinking I am crazy? DBZmusicboy01 iPad 23 Feb 3, 2014 06:16 PM
So many people with late 2013 problems. Are there people that don't have issues? phaselocked MacBook Pro 148 Nov 7, 2013 04:05 PM
Replacimg the harddrive in my 5th gen ipod (ipod video) jrm27 iPod 2 Oct 8, 2012 11:50 AM
How is it some people send me a group message with 130 people in it? BigB82 iPhone Tips, Help and Troubleshooting 0 Aug 16, 2012 01:31 AM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:34 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC