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In a newly published Apple patent application credited to Dale Setlak, co-founder of AuthenTec, the company reveals its interest in enhanced security capabilities for the iPhone home button and Touch ID. The patent application describes how the Touch ID sensor could be paired with an on-screen combination lock or other secondary security feature, requiring the user to move his or her finger in certain directions to fully unlock a device.

As noted by Patently Apple, the June 2013 application shows off a few possibilities for the new technology, including a traditional combination lock-style system that has the user rotating his or her finger on the Touch ID sensor to input a security code.

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Another potential implementation would require the user to swipe through a collection of circles by subtly shifting his or her finger in a specific pattern to unlock the phone. Both rely on the same technology created by AuthenTec that uses simultaneous security of a user's unique fingerprint and secure combinations to gain access to a device. AuthenTec has of course played an important role since its acquisition by Apple back in 2012, with the company's "Smart Sensor" technology serving as the basis for Touch ID.

While Touch ID was implemented for security reasons, the addition of a simple-to-enter secondary security code would increase security even further as a form of two-factor authentication combining physical authentication (fingerprint) with knowledge-based authentication (lock combination or swipe pattern). Implementation of such a system would address concerns over court rulings indicating that users could be compelled by police to unlock fingerprint-protected devices, unlike with passcode-protected devices.

The evolution of Touch ID from solely a fingerprint sensor in the iPhone 5s to the expanded "Reachability" features of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus provides a hint at the possibilities of Touch ID in the future. And while inventions disclosed in Apple patent applications frequently do not ever appear in products, they can still offer some insight into Apple's areas of interest.

Article Link: Apple Researching Enhanced Touch ID Security Using Finger Motion Tracking
 

Snookerman

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I would love to be able to use it to scroll without blocking the content with my hand. I would be great for reading articles and books.
 

JoEw

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I hope the next couple years Apple integrates TouchID into the screen and the home button can slowly go away.

It would be a huge change, but eventually phones will only be a screen.
 

Prof.

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Put down the greasy burgers and it should work fine like 99.99% of the millions of touch IDs out there
Ehhh... I have horrible dry cracked skin the the winter, I'm constantly finding myself deleting and updating my fingerprints in the settings menu. :(

I'm aware it is not the fault of apple, but it's still annoying.
 

ikramerica

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Ehhh... I have horrible dry cracked skin the the winter, I'm constantly finding myself deleting and updating my fingerprints in the settings menu. :(

I'm aware it is not the fault of apple, but it's still annoying.
Yes it is the fault of the technology. Skin too dry? Too moist? It fails. It also fails dramatically in guided access mode. Not only doesn't it work to disable it, it actually resets the security so it thinks the phone was compromised. So you need your passcode to enable touched on everything again:login, apple pay, iTunes store, etc.

That's what I mean by flakey.
 

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This seems interesting and a possible answer to true two-step authentication. However, I hope they come up with a way to do this without taking up so much realestate. I have the iPhone 6 and you could probably fit a much bigger screen if you got rid of the upper and lower bands. Don't know how that would work but if Apple can do it, it would be awesome.
 

avanpelt

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Yes it is the fault of the technology. Skin too dry? Too moist? It fails. It also fails dramatically in guided access mode. Not only doesn't it work to disable it, it actually resets the security so it thinks the phone was compromised. So you need your passcode to enable touched on everything again:login, apple pay, iTunes store, etc.

That's what I mean by flakey.

Show me any fingerprint sensor on the market today that will work reliably if you register your fingerprints with moist skin and then let your fingers crack/peel and then try to unlock with your print. It won't work -- and for good reason -- there is not a match. If there is not a match, it should not unlock the phone.

Wanting it to work under such conditions is like wanting your car key to unlock another car because the grooves on the key to the other car are virtually identical to the grooves on your key. They might be almost identical but there is not a perfect match so it doesn't work. If it did work, that would be a far bigger problem.

There are always going to be some instances where there are false negatives but I'd much prefer getting false negatives over getting false positives. To date, I haven't heard of anyone being able to hand their phone to someone and that other person being able to unlock the phone without first placing a copy of the owner's print over their finger.

I've heard some folks say that after you've registered your print(s) with Touch ID, you can add additional readings of the print(s) by going into the Touch ID settings where it lists your print names and simply placing your finger(s) on the Touch ID sensor. Perhaps you may want to try doing this when your finger is dry to see if it is able to recognize enough of your print to match it and then train it with your "dry skin" print, as well. You'll know there's a match because the name of the print will light up when you place your finger on the Touch ID sensor. If none of the print names light up, there's no match.

I spent an little bit of time doing this in the Touch ID settings placing my finger on the sensor every possible way I could think of that I would place my finger on the sensor -- sides, tip, etc. over and above what you do when you first register your print. My success rate with Touch ID has been near 100%.
 
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Cayden

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I'd love to see this. Is it a software improvement, or could it be implemented with current hardware?
 

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I want them to just get rid of the home button all together. it looks very dated and a waste of unnecessary bezel
 

Zaqfalcon

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I hear that Apple are also looking into utilising the iPhone's camera to identify its user by their unique interpretation of Doing the Hokey Cokey.
 

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Not sure

how I feel about the rotating finger, etc. I can say that for me touch id has worked flawlessly and I assume it would do the same for the rotating finger. The only time I had to use my password is when I restart the phone.
 

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I hope the next couple years Apple integrates TouchID into the screen and the home button can slowly go away.

It would be a huge change, but eventually phones will only be a screen.

I have the same thought :rolleyes: it would be a lot practical than using the bottom home button. dunno how hard to implement or can it even be done.
 

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Put down the greasy burgers and it should work fine like 99.99% of the millions of touch IDs out there
Touch ID also have issues with freshly washed hands that haven't been perfectly dry, but this is a minor gripe as Touch ID works fine the rest of the time.
 

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And then we go back to the home screen using our minds, right?

Nope you just swipe up from the left side of the screen to go back to the home screen or swipe up from the right side to activate multi tasking. Been doing it on my jb iPhones for years. Double clicking the home button all the time is inconvinient and makes it feel like its gonna break at some point
 

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Nope you just swipe up from the left side of the screen to go back to the home screen or swipe up from the right side to activate multi tasking. Been doing it on my jb iPhones for years. Double clicking the home button all the time is inconvinient and makes it feel like its gonna break at some point

I dislike that idea greatly. Seriously, the home button works.
 

DEFabio

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Perhaps you may want to try doing this when your finger is dry to see if it is able to recognize enough of your print to match it and then train it with your "dry skin" print, as well. You'll know there's a match because the name of the print will light up when you place your finger on the Touch ID sensor. If none of the print names light up, there's no match.

Wow, I really didn't know you could check stored prints this way. After I initially set up TouchID (back on my 5s), I probably deleted my prints about 2-3 to ensure I mapped as much of my fingers as possible. This may be noted somewhere while setting it up, but who really has time to read about setting up gadgets :D
 

daftpunker909

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As much flak as I gave Apple for recent failures, I have to say that I am surprised how well TouchID works - it was really a great idea with superb execution
 

kdarling

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As much flak as I gave Apple for recent failures, I have to say that I am surprised how well TouchID works - it was really a great idea with superb execution

Yes, Apple was smart to buy the technology.

I'd love to see this. Is it a software improvement, or could it be implemented with current hardware?

AuthenTec's original specs on this mentioned that it could be used as a cursor input, so it could be software... unless the sensor itself has a dedicated controller chip that is already hardcoded for just fingerprint recognition, which it might.

(I was predicting that the iPhone 6 might use TouchID as a cursor input to get access to far away parts of the larger screens, but Apple instead went with just double touches.)
 
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