MacBook Pros in High Demand, Increased Mac Market Share?

[MacRumors]

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Piper Jaffray analysts are recommending shares of Apple Computer, citing high demand for the MacBook Pro:

The analyst's checks also indicated that there is pent-up demand for the MacBook Pro -- 70% of the stores have a waiting list of MacBook Pro customers.

Meanwhile, Needham & Co analysts believev that Apple has positioned itself for "massive growth in its market share".

Based on their online survey of college students, there has been a dramatic increase in possible switching from the Windows to Mac platform. One of the hurdles, appears the ease of which Macs could run Windows. According to their survey, if Apple were to make it easy for Macs to run Windows the number of students purchasing a Mac would double (24.7% to 44% in the survey).

The potential ability for the new Intel Macs to run Windows has drawn a lot of attention and controversy amongst Mac users.

[netb0y]

I'm still waiting for mine!

[chepistolas]

wahoo! 10 % market share!

I know so many of my collegues that would get an apple if its able to run Windows.

[Performa]

Originally Posted by chepistolas

wahoo! 10 % market share!

I know so many of my collegues that would get an apple if its able to run Windows.

"An" apple is a fruit.

"Apple" is the computer company that makes "Macs".

[PubGuy]

Too hot? I ran mine for 2 hours last night on my lap and it wasn't any different from my rev. A Titanium Powerbook (G4-400). I've got no problem using the standard MacBook Pro 2G Hz system.

As for windows, I also am using Q -- wow! its faster than VPC on my desktop system...an its free!!! I've loaded both a Windows 2K pro image and Windows XP pro image and they are both a lot more responsive than VPC has been. It'll even be faster when the virtualization patch is finished.

[sushi]

Originally Posted by chepistolas

wahoo! 10 % market share!

I know so many of my collegues that would get an apple if its able to run Windows.

To be able to effectively and easily run both Mac OS X and Winders 2K/XP on the same desktop/laptop would be fantastic!

This I'm sure would cause many fence sitters to jump to the Mac side.

Hope we see it soon.

[GHM73]

Running Windows on a Mac would be like replacing the steering wheel on a Ferrari with banana. Why cripple a sophisticated machine with an unusable user interface.

[AidenShaw]

Originally Posted by GHM73

Running Windows on a Mac would be like replacing the steering wheel on a Ferrari with banana. Why cripple a sophisticated machine with an unusable user interface.

In case you haven't noticed, there's virtually no hardware difference between an MBP and a ThinkPad Core Duo other than the color....

An Apple laptop uses the same commodity components as the other Intel books.

You win the prize for the worst automotive analogy yet posted on this forum!

[Whiteapple]

Originally Posted by GHM73

Running Windows on a Mac would be like replacing the steering wheel on a Ferrari with banana. Why cripple a sophisticated machine with an unusable user interface.

Actually, I would prefer a banana and a engine that doesnt blow up, rather than a nice alu-designed wheel and have to replace the engine every two weeks. Bad example.

It is true that windows is not perfect, OSX isnt either. Up to now, the only thing i reproached to OSX was that it wasnt very snappy, but that may come from the 4200rpm HDD of my ibook, lets see what i'll get with a 7200rpm macbook

[jaydub]

While I haven't decided to purchase an MBP, the possibility of running windows is an attractive "feature" because I use some programs which do not have a Mac counterpart. Now, for someone like me who doesn't do gaming, it'd be a great to just be able to run a few windows programs.

I've been out of the apple scene for ages though, so I don't even know the answer to this -- but can Apples see networked NTFS drives?

[janstett]

Originally Posted by jaydub

I've been out of the apple scene for ages though, so I don't even know the answer to this -- but can Apples see networked NTFS drives?

When accessed as a share, it doesn't matter, the host PC abstracts it from the client.

Mac OS X can mount NTFS drives locally, but in read-only mode.

[Cheese]

SOOOO, Everyone seems to think that the MBP is going to be the cure for all that ails them? Once you truly go Mac, you should never look back. There is nothing more gratifying than to know that the rest of the world is languishing in the muck of Micro$uck and all of it's widely felt shortcomings, while you can easily answer them with, "I have not needed any 3rd party apps, my computer does NOT lock up, get viruses, worms, or seem to be affected by malware. What I like best is that it just works, which makes it much easier for me to do my work. I would rather have 5 apps that work properly, predictably, and reliably, than 15 million that do not work at all". Does anyone know of one Windoze machine zealot? Brand loyalty that rivals and perhaps surpasses even Harley-Davidson should mean a lot. (I have an Apple sticker on my motorcycle helmet!) Have you ever seen anyone sporting a Dell tattoo? Dell Schmell. Their customer base is losing ground faster than Apple is growing. And it is growing. I don't care about market share, except that I hope it grows at a pace fast enough to keep the R&D folks busily whipping up the latest and greatest that Cupertino has to offer. It doesn't bother me at all to know that a simple choice I made 7 years ago is keeping some people from sleeping at night. When the switches are made to all those MBP's, there will be a lot of great computers in the hands of desperate people, who just want a computer that works. Unfortunately, many of them will think that they cannot break free from the grip of Microwuss. That is part of Bill's trap. Get the MBP, take OSX out for a test drive. It has a smoother ride, uses less gas, cranks right up every time, won't leave you stranded, and is the best looking one on the block everytime you go out.
Remember, I once thought I disliked Mac's. After 15 seconds of thinking different my life has never been the same. Honestly.

[crispoe]

This is why VMWare is not working on VMWare for OS X. I believe they are expecting you to be able to boot windows natively in Leopard (which may make the product sort of useless for non-it and non-devolpers/testers), So they dont need to write any code. You can just run the Windows Version of vmware if you need the technical benefits of vmware.

I hope Dvorak is wrong. I would settle for a 50/50 split as long as I still have OS X as my host OS.

[janstett]

Originally Posted by Cheese

SOOOO, Everyone seems to think that the MBP is going to be the cure for all that ails them? Once you truly go Mac, you should never look back. There is nothing more gratifying than to know that the rest of the world is languishing in the muck of Micro$uck and all of it's widely felt shortcomings, while you can easily answer them with, "I have not needed any 3rd party apps, my computer does NOT lock up, get viruses, worms, or seem to be affected by malware.

Sigh, a blind zealot... Windows has a lot of great apps, and isn't so bad. I have two Macs -- a MacBook Pro 2.0 GHz and a Mac Mini 1.42GHz G4. But I also have lots of other computers -- a Pentium D Extreme as my main desktop, a Linux box, a 2.5GHz P4 Gateway running OS X, an Ultraportable Thinkpad X40, a monster HP P4 3.2 laptop, a Thinkpad A22p that's my download mule, a home theater PC, a MAME PC.

My Mini locks up at least once a month (I just had to power it down because it wouldn't wake up from a sleep; I leave it on all the time). There are many sites that Safari just won't work with. It has been fried already once under warranty, drive controller and main board were toasted. And OSX is only "secure" because people with ill will don't bother with it -- yet. That doesn't mean OSX is immune. If anything, its byzantine BSD underpinnings mean it is technologically MORE vulnerable at the core than Windows or System-V based Linux distros.

Originally Posted by Cheese

What I like best is that it just works, which makes it much easier for me to do my work. I would rather have 5 apps that work properly, predictably, and reliably, than 15 million that do not work at all".

Does it "just work"? What about all those web sites that won't work with Safari? What about the confusing user interface -- the disembodied menus, the fact that closing an app window doesn't terminate it like it should, etc? What about the fact that there is no easy place to see all the applications you have installed ala Microsoft's start menu? Is digging in the Applications folder user friendly? If all you ever do in the world is covered by those 5 apps you have, great. But that's not most of us.

Originally Posted by Cheese

Does anyone know of one Windoze machine zealot?

Actually, yes, there are plenty. They just tend not to be as blindly devoted as other zealots -- be it Mac OS X, BeOS, Linux, OS/2. Zealots have gone up against Microsoft's offerrings for years. And they always LOSE. If you doubt Windows zealots exist, just check the usenet groups like comp.sys.mac.advocacy, etc.

Brand loyalty that rivals and perhaps surpasses even Harley-Davidson should mean a lot. (I have an Apple sticker on my motorcycle helmet!)

Sounds like you're the exact kind of guy the $99 iPod case is aimed at. Did you place your order yet? That's exactly why I don't use any of the white Apple stickers I have, I don't want to be identified as a psychofantic fan boy.

Originally Posted by Cheese

Remember, I once thought I disliked Mac's. After 15 seconds of thinking different my life has never been the same. Honestly.

The flip side is, this is the problem with getting "switchers". They've seen the other side, and after hearing all the nonsense from the fanatical zealots, they realize things aren't as bad as they thought.

I know the Mac's warts. I know where the bodies are buried. I know the white fence is a lie. But I still use it, along with XP and Fedora Core 4.

[rcha101]

Originally Posted by chepistolas

wahoo! 10 % market share!

I know so many of my collegues that would get an apple if its able to run Windows.

As a switcher, I find this unbelievable. I am simply sick of Windows which is why I am selling my PC and purchasing a Macbook. Do people realise that they only need to be to open and edit the same file formats etc or run a mac version of the software they already use?

Cut the cord!

[BornAgainMac]

Good for both Apple and Microsoft. Apple should be the largest laptop / desktop vendor in the next 18 months.

Anyone use this program to run Windows on your MBP / iMac?
http://openosx.com/wintel/index.html

I don't hear much about it.

[wPod]

ive been wanting an MBP, and being able to run windows natively would only sweeten the deal. so much engineering design software i work with (such as AutoCAD) only works with windows. I hate it, but its true. running windows natively on apple hardware would be the most elegant solution to my dilemma of needing windows.

[abrooks]

Originally Posted by BornAgainMac

Good for both Apple and Microsoft. Apple should be the largest laptop / desktop vendor in the next 18 months.

Not wanting to be negative or anything but Apple has a very very long way to go before it sell anywhere near as many computers as Dell.

[Littleodie914]

This is awesome news for Apple... Wish I had bought some of their shares back in the day! Maybe now isn't too late...

[freeny]

Im definitely in the market for one but am waiting for at least one of my main apps to be binary. Every thing I use would be running on Rosetta currently.

[nicksoper]

I'd be intrested in running windows apps on a mac, even if they ran through a rossetta style system.

But isn't the fact that mac's can't run windows executables why macs dont get viruses, another factor in owning a mac.

Nick

[lord_flash]

1) Runs Windows properly (just in case Vista does really well and we're all sidelined. Come on, it's not impossible, even if it would be a bit sad.)
2) The model has been out long enough for things like the 15" PowerBook FW800's screen problem to be ironed out.
3) It looks cool.

So, one out of three so far (3), but sounds promising on the others.

[winmacguy]

Originally Posted by Littleodie914

This is awesome news for Apple... Wish I had bought some of their shares back in the day! Maybe now isn't too late...

Now is actually a pretty good time to buy AAPL
http://www.google.co.nz/search?oi=st...lr%3D%26sa%3DG

[UberMac]

44 odd percent of college students! Crikey that would be rather impressive. Though I'm equally pressed by the 27% figure of college students! Well the sky's the limit I guess.

[sarcasm]Probably next year Microsoft will be saying it would be nice to have a 10% market share![/sarcasm]

[sushi]

Originally Posted by UberMac

[sarcasm]Probably next year Microsoft will be saying it would be nice to have a 10% market share![/sarcasm]

Realize that you are being sarcastic, but this is great news for Microsoft as well.

For every Mac sold that the individual wants to legitimately run Windows is another Winders sale for them.

Apple and Microsoft both win.