From what I've seen, the new MacBook Pro hasn't gotten much love during the event. Let's talk specs, price, whether you want it or can easily make do with what you have.
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Let's talk 2015 MacBook Pro
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That's because the processors haven't seen a dramatic increase in performance since the jump to the 2nd gen Core i3/5/7 processors. Intel has focused on efficiency, so they have much better battery life, but overall performance has essentially stalled in the last four or five years, or even regressed (if you take the Core M as a sign). That's how the 2012 13" Macbook Pro can continue to be sold next to current models and still have roughly equivalent performance.
The 13" rMBP got the new force trackpad (we'll see if it's a real improvement or not) and new Broadwell processors which improve the graphics with Intel's Iris 6100. I'd consider that a decent spec bump for that model. The 15" rMBP didn't get any love since Intel hasn't released those processors yet, so it's understandable Apple couldn't do anything with it yet.
I'm getting the 13 Pro
Frankly I was just waiting for the new i7-5557U processor at 3.1Ghz and Iris 6100. Instead I also got:
RAM: the 1600MHz DDR3L is replaced by faster 1866MHz LPDDR3
SSD: 2 x faster apparently.
Touchpad: with the fancy taptic sensor
Ports: dual 4K support thanks to the new Iris
Battery: 71.8wh got a boost to 74.9wh
So yeah, I'm pretty happy.
But obviously when Skylake takes off somewhere in 2016 all we will probably see a brand new design. But I can't wait that long.
Frankly I was just waiting for the new i7-5557U processor at 3.1Ghz and Iris 6100. Instead I also got:
RAM: the 1600MHz DDR3L is replaced by faster 1866MHz LPDDR3
SSD: 2 x faster apparently.
Touchpad: with the fancy taptic sensor
Ports: dual 4K support thanks to the new Iris
Battery: 71.8wh got a boost to 74.9wh
So yeah, I'm pretty happy.
But obviously when Skylake takes off somewhere in 2016 all we will probably see a brand new design. But I can't wait that long.
I spent a pretty penny on my mid 2012-2013 rMBP. Been waiting to upgrade my baby because the battery is slowly dying. I'm disappointed that the 15 inch MBP never gets any love, year after year. Are they going to take it away like they did the 17 inch? It's been years since they've had a refresh or a real update. 
I'm at lost.
I'm at lost.
13 inch Retina MBP with 8 gb RAM, 256gb SSD and 2.7 GHz Core i5 now costs CAD$1799!!! That's what I paid for my 15 inch MBP with 4gb RAM, 256gb hard drive and Core 2 Duo 5 years ago... How times have changed. Now the cheapest 15 inch MBP is CAD$2449. Gonna save up for the new 15 inch model. I would love to finally experience Retina display on my MBP.
That's what I paid for my 15 inch MBP with 4gb RAM, 256gb hard drive and Core 2 Duo 5 years ago... How times have changed. Now the cheapest 15 inch MBP is CAD$2449. Gonna save up for the new 15 inch model. I would love to finally experience Retina display on my MBP.
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13 inch Retina MBP with 8 gb RAM, 256gb SSD and 2.7 GHz Core i5 now costs CAD$1799!!!
And the other 15" model is now $3049, a nice $350 increase for nothing (no updates either). Was looking to get one, but now there's no way.
I was really hoping for some USB 3.1 and some DDR4 memory. I was looking at some geek bench results, the "13 MBP from 2014 is only 8%ish better than my 2010 MBP. :/ GeekBench was showing muticore results around 7600 for my 2010, but only 8600 for MBP '14.
I was looking at some geek bench results, the "13 MBP from 2014 is only 8%ish better than my 2010 MBP. :/ GeekBench was showing muticore results around 7600 for my 2010, but only 8600 for MBP '14.
I was really hoping for some USB 3.1 and some DDR4 memory.
The highest score for a 2010 MBP was 4826 on Geekbench 3 for the 2.8 GHz 15" i7. The fastest 13" Mid-2014 scored 7197, which is quite a dramatic jump.
2010 MBP 15"
I'm seeing close to 5k for Single and 10K for multi as the highest?
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/509212
Average was 4k for single and 8k for multi?
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/509127
Unless I'm totally missing something, which I could be.
Vs
2014 MBP 13"
3.5k for single vs 7.5k for multi?
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1466086
2010 15" 2.8 GHz i7; Geekbench 3: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geek...r:"Intel Core i7-640M" frequency:2800 bits:64
I think you were looking at Geekbench 2, which gives the scores you listed. The ones I used are from Geekbench 3.
I think you were looking at Geekbench 2, which gives the scores you listed. The ones I used are from Geekbench 3.
Hey, thanks for pointing it out, I'm not sure how/why the other ones were coming up, but I went and ran it on my system and you were totally right, I'm getting 2.2 on single and 4.7 on multicore. Sooo it's def time for an upgrade then.
I spent a pretty penny on my mid 2012-2013 rMBP. Been waiting to upgrade my baby because the battery is slowly dying. I'm disappointed that the 15 inch MBP never gets any love, year after year. Are they going to take it away like they did the 17 inch? It's been years since they've had a refresh or a real update.
Blame Intel for not releasing Broadwell-HQ chips.
If Intel had Broadwell-HQ chips available, Apple would have updated the 15" rMBP as well.
And I have to say that AMD is also to blame as well. They've fallen behind sharply when it comes to CPUs, so Intel can delay their own chips for as long as they want because there's no competition.
I don't know - you have a good machine. I'd only upgrade if it isn't doing what you need it to any longer. Or, of course, you'd just like a new one - which I can totally relate to.
The macbook pro is not pro if the use of the letters p r o means professional.
I can understand fully, and back the decision to use non replaceable hardware in ultra portable devices such as the Macbook Air and the ipads and iphones. When it comes to the top end of the portable range of Apple products, the Macbook Pro, these need to have user replaceable parts.
I know many people use the Macbook Pro as the base for video editing, if they are needing to edit "on the road" then they use a Macbook Air along with FCP X and proxy media, the workflow for this is great, does not consume a huge amount of internal data on the SSD.
The Macbook Pro sits on a desk, connected to SANS, external keyboards, monitors, speakers, mice of one kind or another, generally not all that portable.
What is needed is a device that is small, portable with a screen larger than 13 inches, smaller than 27 inches.. This could be the ideal size for the 17inch Macbook Pro, small is does not need to be, it could have at least 32GB RAM, 1 or 2 TB SSD, and 4 USB 3 or the new new USB-C ports, you can never have enough ports!!
If this came out, I would sell my car in a heart beat, to be able to use FCP X, with enough screen real estate, and if need be, take my older retina mac on the road, I am all for that...
Smaller devices such as Airs, Macbooks could be pooled to create local render farms is such is needed...
I do not feel the current range of Macbook Pro laptops are professional..They are not...My 8GB retina macbook pro is a hunk of junk, creating proxy files chokes the RAM so it stalls.. this is what Apple calls professional...
I can understand fully, and back the decision to use non replaceable hardware in ultra portable devices such as the Macbook Air and the ipads and iphones. When it comes to the top end of the portable range of Apple products, the Macbook Pro, these need to have user replaceable parts.
I know many people use the Macbook Pro as the base for video editing, if they are needing to edit "on the road" then they use a Macbook Air along with FCP X and proxy media, the workflow for this is great, does not consume a huge amount of internal data on the SSD.
The Macbook Pro sits on a desk, connected to SANS, external keyboards, monitors, speakers, mice of one kind or another, generally not all that portable.
What is needed is a device that is small, portable with a screen larger than 13 inches, smaller than 27 inches.. This could be the ideal size for the 17inch Macbook Pro, small is does not need to be, it could have at least 32GB RAM, 1 or 2 TB SSD, and 4 USB 3 or the new new USB-C ports, you can never have enough ports!!
If this came out, I would sell my car in a heart beat, to be able to use FCP X, with enough screen real estate, and if need be, take my older retina mac on the road, I am all for that...
Smaller devices such as Airs, Macbooks could be pooled to create local render farms is such is needed...
I do not feel the current range of Macbook Pro laptops are professional..They are not...My 8GB retina macbook pro is a hunk of junk, creating proxy files chokes the RAM so it stalls.. this is what Apple calls professional...
The macbook pro is not pro if the use of the letters p r o means professional.
I can understand fully, and back the decision to use non replaceable hardware in ultra portable devices such as the Macbook Air and the ipads and iphones. When it comes to the top end of the portable range of Apple products, the Macbook Pro, these need to have user replaceable parts.
I know many people use the Macbook Pro as the base for video editing, if they are needing to edit "on the road" then they use a Macbook Air along with FCP X and proxy media, the workflow for this is great, does not consume a huge amount of internal data on the SSD.
The Macbook Pro sits on a desk, connected to SANS, external keyboards, monitors, speakers, mice of one kind or another, generally not all that portable.
What is needed is a device that is small, portable with a screen larger than 13 inches, smaller than 27 inches.. This could be the ideal size for the 17inch Macbook Pro, small is does not need to be, it could have at least 32GB RAM, 1 or 2 TB SSD, and 4 USB 3 or the new new USB-C ports, you can never have enough ports!!
If this came out, I would sell my car in a heart beat, to be able to use FCP X, with enough screen real estate, and if need be, take my older retina mac on the road, I am all for that...
Smaller devices such as Airs, Macbooks could be pooled to create local render farms is such is needed...
I do not feel the current range of Macbook Pro laptops are professional..They are not...My 8GB retina macbook pro is a hunk of junk, creating proxy files chokes the RAM so it stalls.. this is what Apple calls professional...
The upgrade people use to do on MacBooks, is -
1. Upgrade ram from the stock 4GB.
2. Change the hard drive to an SSD.
These are already done with the retinas. What exactly are you thinking needs user replaceable parts?
Anyway, mine does great with work with logic ..,so, I don't know what to tell you..
The upgrade used to be, as in the old silver Macbook Pro's was hard drives and add more RAM..
With the new Macbook Pro's you cannot change the RAM, or the Hard drives, you are lumped with what you bought.. This is bad as it prevents replacements for faulty parts, crashed hard drives, dodgy RAM.
The macbook pro is not professional...13 inches is a joke, Jony has no clue about the world of creative work..
With the new Macbook Pro's you cannot change the RAM, or the Hard drives, you are lumped with what you bought.. This is bad as it prevents replacements for faulty parts, crashed hard drives, dodgy RAM.
The macbook pro is not professional...13 inches is a joke, Jony has no clue about the world of creative work..
I was really hoping for some USB 3.1 and some DDR4 memory.
DDR4 is not supported til skylake a bit of research would have told you that was not going to happen.
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The 13 inch rMBP is perfect for most professionals it'll fly through all but the most demanding of video editing and scientific apps, it's thin and light and can be carried anywhere, it's perfect for working while you travel, especially for people who code, give presentations, work on the web etc etc etc.
As for replacement parts etc if you are a proffesional you'll have apple care and insurance for any issues and a capital replacement budget for your computers to replace them as and when needed.
What you mean is that this is not a good computer for a creative amatuer with a limited budget and high demands that doesn't make enough from their computer to be able to replace it at need.
With the old MacBooks, users would upgrade:
1. 4GB to 8GB of RAM
2. Spinning HDD to SSD
With the rMBPs you don't need to do either, because they already have 8GB of RAM and an SSD.
Gee, well done.. That I know!! 8GB is barely enough to run Mavericks, let alone a semi-professional app such as Final Cut Pro X...
13 inches is not a large enough screen to edit professionally on, 17in is/was great...
To be useful, a minimum of 17 inches, 2x 1 TB SSD's and at least 16GB RAM..4 Thunderbolt drives/USB C drives..
The point is, this laptop is not meant to be the on the road device, it sits on the desk, in the hotel, at home, in the office, and the smaller 13 inch macbook pro/air the on the road, take on location device...
13 inches is not a large enough screen to edit professionally on, 17in is/was great...
To be useful, a minimum of 17 inches, 2x 1 TB SSD's and at least 16GB RAM..4 Thunderbolt drives/USB C drives..
The point is, this laptop is not meant to be the on the road device, it sits on the desk, in the hotel, at home, in the office, and the smaller 13 inch macbook pro/air the on the road, take on location device...
Apple cant do a much thinner 15" MBP without either dropping Thunderbolt or waiting for Thunderbolt 3.
So for the 15" to get USB-C, I think we will have to wait for Skylake.
(And of course, there will not be a dGPU.)