How France Is Saving Civilization

MacBytes · Mar 22, 2006, 02:40 PM

Category: Opinion/Interviews
Link: How France Is Saving Civilization
Description:: New legislation in France would force Apple Computer to open the iPod and iTunes to competitors -- and that's a good thing for consumers, in the long run.

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Yvan256 · Mar 22, 2006, 02:50 PM

As long as they also force to open up WMA and Atrac3...

1macker1 · Mar 22, 2006, 03:16 PM

WMA is already open.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yvan256

As long as they also force to open up WMA and Atrac3...

whenpaulsparks · Mar 22, 2006, 03:18 PM

a play on how the irish saved civilization. clever!

Timepass · Mar 22, 2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvan256

As long as they also force to open up WMA and Atrac3...

that what I was gathering off the law. it the the apple fans that are thinking it only going after apple.

If you read it all the states is for a music store to work in france it going to have to be able to work on the players sold there and players work with the other music store.

So a creative zen will be able to play stuff from iTMS and iPod will be able to play stuff from napster.

Mind you if apple pulls out then the iPod get effect in france as well.

Airforce · Mar 22, 2006, 03:23 PM

About time France did something good

bryanc · Mar 22, 2006, 03:42 PM

As an Apple fan, and happy iTMS consumer, I'd like to be able to say I find this legislation unfair and objectionable. But it's not. It's just good government.

There's nothing here to stop Apple (or anyone else) from making a better product and dominating the market. It just prevents Apple (or anyone else) from dominating the market because they got there first. As long as Apple keeps providing a better product, they have nothing to fear.

This is the kind of legislation that would've been passed in the U.S.A. back in the old-days, when the US was the 'land of the free', rather than the 'home of the corporation.'

Cheers

miniConvert · Mar 22, 2006, 03:54 PM

I agree that this should have been passed long ago in many places, but I think the belief that digital download music sales were too 'fragile' until now has prevented much action being taken.

It's crazy that because I have a Walkman I can't buy from iTunes or Napster. It blows my mind that it has taken France to speak out!

Detlev_73 · Mar 22, 2006, 04:25 PM

How can the French save civilization, when they can't save themselves? They stand by while thugs burn thousands of cars, mutilate and murder people because they're Christian, and generally don't have the balls to crack some skulls and bring order to an ever-growing segment of European society that has brought chaos, disorder, and hatred back to Europe?!

For over two thousand years, Europe has been Christian, and now because a few witty cartoons appear here and there that have more truth than anything, people are in an uproar?!

WTF?!

AtHomeBoy_2000 · Mar 22, 2006, 04:32 PM

THat article was very well writen. It backs up everything I've said int he last few days.

Stella · Mar 22, 2006, 08:34 PM

Getting wwaaay of topic, however:

As opposed to your country that illegally invades other countries to get at its natural resources, i.e., Oil, under the guise of WMD and other kinds of BS?!

Also one that loves democracy, as long as its on the u.s terms?!

Not forgetting that under 50% of americans have actually left their own soil?

WTF?!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detlev_73

How can the French save civilization, when they can't save themselves? They stand by while thugs burn thousands of cars, mutilate and murder people because they're Christian, and generally don't have the balls to crack some skulls and bring order to an ever-growing segment of European society that has brought chaos, disorder, and hatred back to Europe?!

For over two thousand years, Europe has been Christian, and now because a few witty cartoons appear here and there that have more truth than anything, people are in an uproar?!

WTF?!

LaMerVipere · Mar 22, 2006, 09:53 PM

Well I'm glad some people in the tech punditocracy see this as a good thing.

VIVE LA FRANCE

redAPPLE · Mar 22, 2006, 11:57 PM

real implementation is the problem.

it is somehow exciting to find out where this will end.

greatdevourer · Mar 23, 2006, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryanc

This is the kind of legislation that would've been passed in the U.S.A. back in the old-days, when the US was the 'land of the free', rather than the 'home of the corporation.'

Rofl. When was that, then? About the same time they were refusing to ban slavery?

MacEffects · Mar 23, 2006, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Stella

As opposed to your country that illegally invades other countries to get at its natural resources, i.e., Oil, under the guise of WMD and other kinds of BS?!

Whoa Explain this to me please, I don't recall what we did Illigal, and I don't recall the US Steeling Resources, please provide some links/proof. I would really like to hear more about this 'if' its true that is, now I stay away from Politics, however there is a lot I could say about the War, the US, etc... But I don't want to stray from the topic at hand.

Heb1228 · Mar 23, 2006, 01:56 AM

My guess is that Apple pulls iTunes from France before they open it up to other music players. I don't think Steve is going to be bullied. So Apple pulls the plug on iTMS France and the message is sent to other countries: We do business on our terms or pull the plug and your people go back to illegal downloads... you pick!

shamino · Mar 23, 2006, 05:21 PM

So the upshot of the article is: "Apple might someday become a big predatory monopoly, so we should pass laws to punish them now, just in case."

That's like a loan shark saying "you might refuse to pay up, so we're going to break your legs in advance."

Mar 22, 2006, 02:40 PM	#1
MacBytes macrumors bot Join Date: Jul 2003	How France Is Saving Civilization Category: Opinion/Interviews Link: How France Is Saving Civilization Description:: New legislation in France would force Apple Computer to open the iPod and iTunes to competitors -- and that's a good thing for consumers, in the long run. Posted on MacBytes.com Approved by Mudbug
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Mar 22, 2006, 02:50 PM	#2
Yvan256 macrumors 601 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada	As long as they also force to open up WMA and Atrac3... __________________ The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. The remaining 10% of the code accounts for the other 90% of the development time. -Tom Cargill, Bell Labs.
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Mar 22, 2006, 03:42 PM	#7
bryanc macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fredericton, NB Canada	I can't find anything to object to here. As an Apple fan, and happy iTMS consumer, I'd like to be able to say I find this legislation unfair and objectionable. But it's not. It's just good government. There's nothing here to stop Apple (or anyone else) from making a better product and dominating the market. It just prevents Apple (or anyone else) from dominating the market because they got there first. As long as Apple keeps providing a better product, they have nothing to fear. This is the kind of legislation that would've been passed in the U.S.A. back in the old-days, when the US was the 'land of the free', rather than the 'home of the corporation.' Cheers __________________ Windows - from the people who brought you EDLIN
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Mar 22, 2006, 03:54 PM	#8
miniConvert macrumors 68040 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kent, UK - the 'Garden of England'.	I agree that this should have been passed long ago in many places, but I think the belief that digital download music sales were too 'fragile' until now has prevented much action being taken. It's crazy that because I have a Walkman I can't buy from iTunes or Napster. It blows my mind that it has taken France to speak out! __________________ Where are we? What the hell is going on? --Hide And Seek, Imogen Heap
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Mar 22, 2006, 04:25 PM	#9
Detlev_73 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Roswell, GA	What? How can the French save civilization, when they can't save themselves? They stand by while thugs burn thousands of cars, mutilate and murder people because they're Christian, and generally don't have the balls to crack some skulls and bring order to an ever-growing segment of European society that has brought chaos, disorder, and hatred back to Europe?! For over two thousand years, Europe has been Christian, and now because a few witty cartoons appear here and there that have more truth than anything, people are in an uproar?! WTF?! __________________ 21.5" iMac, MacBook Air 11.6", iPhone 4. "We're not about having the highest market share or revenue...we want to make the best products." - Tim Cook
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Mar 22, 2006, 03:18 PM	#4
whenpaulsparks macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tallahassee, FL	a play on how the irish saved civilization. clever!
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Mar 22, 2006, 03:23 PM	#6
Airforce macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2006	About time France did something good
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Mar 22, 2006, 04:32 PM	#10
AtHomeBoy_2000 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2005	THat article was very well writen. It backs up everything I've said int he last few days.
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Mar 22, 2006, 09:53 PM	#12
LaMerVipere macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago	Well I'm glad some people in the tech punditocracy see this as a good thing. VIVE LA FRANCE __________________ iMac + iPhone 4
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Mar 22, 2006, 11:57 PM	#13
redAPPLE macrumors 68030 Join Date: May 2002 Location: 2 Much Infinite Loops	real implementation is the problem. it is somehow exciting to find out where this will end. __________________ "Real men FTP/SSH their files around anyway." -- generik
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Mar 23, 2006, 01:56 AM	#16
Heb1228 macrumors 68020 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Severn, NC 27877	My guess is that Apple pulls iTunes from France before they open it up to other music players. I don't think Steve is going to be bullied. So Apple pulls the plug on iTMS France and the message is sent to other countries: We do business on our terms or pull the plug and your people go back to illegal downloads... you pick! __________________ 17" MPB, 2.8 My Sites: Me, Mom's Art, Dad's Co., Church
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Mar 23, 2006, 05:21 PM	#17
shamino macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vienna, VA	So the upshot of the article is: "Apple might someday become a big predatory monopoly, so we should pass laws to punish them now, just in case." That's like a loan shark saying "you might refuse to pay up, so we're going to break your legs in advance." __________________ In theory, theory is the same as practice. In practice, it isn't.
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