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Old Feb 4, 2002, 10:45 PM   #1
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original 1984 macintosh woz

It was on an antique road show type program... It had an inscription on the back written by woz... Appraised for $10,000!!!!
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Old Feb 5, 2002, 12:06 AM   #2
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how I want an original 1984 Macintosh 128!!!
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Old Feb 5, 2002, 01:27 PM   #3
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there is this guy in california who has the oldest mac with the serial number 0001 on the back of it...an article i read in the newspaper years ago and went to see it and it was certainly a curiosity
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Old Feb 5, 2002, 02:07 PM   #4
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Why so cheap?

Seriously, that's not such a great ROI considering how much the machine originally costs.
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Old Feb 21, 2002, 06:48 AM   #5
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Old Mar 9, 2002, 03:11 PM   #6
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Missed Opportunity!

Geez, art...

If I would have only known - I saw an ORIGINAL 128k Macintosh on www.ebay.co.uk yesterday (and it was a pre-September 1984 model)...

...The guy was selling EVERYTHING!!! And it was in PERFECT condition, including all the original software and manuals. I almost put a bid in myself, but my wife would've had a cow. She thought that £2000 was too excessive for my little Cube last year - I'm still trying to live that one down.

Anyway, it only went for £151...

...What a steal.

There are, however, a few really nice looking Newtons for sale, including a Messagepad 2100 for around £250 with all the extras. Check out www.ebay.co.uk if you're interested...
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Old Mar 14, 2002, 01:51 PM   #7
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Re: Why so cheap?

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Seriously, that's not such a great ROI considering how much the machine originally costs.
The original Macintosh cost $2499. The Lisa, when first released prior to the Mac, cost ~$10,000.



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Old Mar 14, 2002, 01:52 PM   #8
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Original macs move through eBay fairly frequently. Keep an eye out.


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Old Mar 28, 2002, 05:52 AM   #9
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Re: Re: Why so cheap?

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The original Macintosh cost $2499. The Lisa, when first released prior to the Mac, cost ~$10,000.
Apparently the Mac IIfx was the most expensive Mac. Also $10,000.


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Old Mar 28, 2002, 02:37 PM   #10
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Wired News had this story. Now you know why its so important not to throw your boxes out!

http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,51208,00.html
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Old Mar 28, 2002, 03:17 PM   #11
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There are, however, a few really nice looking Newtons for sale, including a Messagepad 2100 for around £250 with all the extras. Check out www.ebay.co.uk if you're interested...
I just got a Newton MP 2100 (not the 2000 upgrade) off of eBay for $105. I'm still amazed... considering I paid $125 for my MP130 just a few months ago...!
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Old Mar 28, 2002, 03:35 PM   #12
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Apparently the Mac IIfx was the most expensive Mac. Also $10,000.


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Ahh yes... the most my dad ever paid for a computer... along with a 21" monitor, a scanner, upgraded RAM, external 200MB hard drive... all in all, he ended up paying about $25,000 for the whole setup... and six months later, it was outdated.

And now we complain about a $2,500 pricetag! Scary...
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I just got a Newton MP 2100 (not the 2000 upgrade) off of eBay for $105. I'm still amazed... considering I paid $125 for my MP130 just a few months ago...!
I'd love to get back into the Newton. Sadly, with a serial-port-less Quicksilver and such old sync software, I just don't think I could go back at this point. It was 1999 when I let my MP2000 go. I still wish I had not, but I can't seem to bring myself to grab another one on eBay.

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Old Mar 29, 2002, 04:00 PM   #14
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I'd love to get back into the Newton. Sadly, with a serial-port-less Quicksilver and such old sync software, I just don't think I could go back at this point. It was 1999 when I let my MP2000 go. I still wish I had not, but I can't seem to bring myself to grab another one on eBay.

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While I'm still a total newbie to the Newton community, I am looking into options to connect the Newton to Apple's newest computers. So far, I've come up with the Keyspan USB Twin Serial adapter for connections AND I found a Sync program for OS X called Newten 1.1. Haven't been able to use it yet, but it sounds promising!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Missed Opportunity!

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While I'm still a total newbie to the Newton community, I am looking into options to connect the Newton to Apple's newest computers. So far, I've come up with the Keyspan USB Twin Serial adapter for connections AND I found a Sync program for OS X called Newten 1.1. Haven't been able to use it yet, but it sounds promising!
Please post a link for Newten. I'd love to see it.

The Stealth Serial Port is a much better serial solution in that it gives you access to the new G4's built in oldschool serial port, but you have to sacrifice your modem to do it. It is 100% compatible with hardware serial, very much unlike the Keyspan USB->serial solutions.

I had one on an old G3 400 (B&W) and it worked great for setting up an AppleTalk network between my G3 and my Apple IIgs. I may get one for my quicksilver for the same purpose, but adding a Mac Plus into the mix as well.


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Old Mar 29, 2002, 05:04 PM   #16
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how I want an original 1984 Macintosh 128!!!
If you have a Deseret Industries by you, then they are super duper mega easy to find. If you don't know what deseret industries is, it is a place where people donate their old stuff, and you can get it for super cheap. I have seen them their before, but they don't have any inscriptions. You can also find lots of other Mac stuff like Personal Laser Writers, Old PowerMacs, StyleWriters, and I eaven heard of someone finding a GeForce2MX in one of the boxes of graphics cards and junk. (I don't beleive it, but it is definately possible). I wish I could find something like that
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Please post a link for Newten. I'd love to see it.

The Stealth Serial Port is a much better serial solution in that it gives you access to the new G4's built in oldschool serial port, but you have to sacrifice your modem to do it. It is 100% compatible with hardware serial, very much unlike the Keyspan USB->serial solutions.

I had one on an old G3 400 (B&W) and it worked great for setting up an AppleTalk network between my G3 and my Apple IIgs. I may get one for my quicksilver for the same purpose, but adding a Mac Plus into the mix as well.


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Here ya go:
http://www.panic.com/~stevenf/index.php?node=NewTen

(Thank goodness for ReadMe files, I never would have found that URL again otherwise. )

From the web site:

"A KeySpan USB serial adapter and appropriate Mac OS X drivers are required to use NewTen. I've also heard reports that NewTen is compatible with the legacy serial ports built-into older beige Macs, and the Gee Three Stealth serial port, but have not personally confirmed this."
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Old Mar 30, 2002, 06:37 PM   #18
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this is a pretty useless post, as I am just trying to hit for the cycle...all accessible forum groups last posted on by me LOL.

if you want to take away posts arn, g'head i guess :/ i try to let it be known i could care less about post count anyways.
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If you have a Deseret Industries by you, then they are super duper mega easy to find. If you don't know what deseret industries is, it is a place where people donate their old stuff, and you can get it for super cheap. I have seen them their before, but they don't have any inscriptions. You can also find lots of other Mac stuff like Personal Laser Writers, Old PowerMacs, StyleWriters, and I eaven heard of someone finding a GeForce2MX in one of the boxes of graphics cards and junk. (I don't beleive it, but it is definately possible). I wish I could find something like that
I bought my HP ScanJet IIC at Deseret Industries for $10. Works like a champ.
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Ahhh! Blakespot! I am going to have to report you to a moderator! Not only did you double-post, you TRIPLE-posted! Ha ha ha!

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Missed Opportunity!

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Here ya go:
http://www.panic.com/~stevenf/index.php?node=NewTen

(Thank goodness for ReadMe files, I never would have found that URL again otherwise. )

From the web site:

"A KeySpan USB serial adapter and appropriate Mac OS X drivers are required to use NewTen. I've also heard reports that NewTen is compatible with the legacy serial ports built-into older beige Macs, and the Gee Three Stealth serial port, but have not personally confirmed this."
I ordered the Stealth Serial Port from GeeThree last night. We'll see how it works out. GeeThree feels it will work with Newten. Again, my main purpose is to get LocalTalk going from my G4 to my Apple IIgs and Mac Plus.


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there is this guy in california who has the oldest mac with the serial number 0001 on the back of it...an article i read in the newspaper years ago and went to see it and it was certainly a curiosity
The model # for the original Macintosh series was M0001 since the unit was the first manufacted macintosh ever. This is the model # for the whole series so unless he had the ORIGINAL mac then it's the same as the rest in that series.

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It was on an antique road show type program... It had an inscription on the back written by woz... Appraised for $10,000!!!!
There are inscriptions in the inside of all original 128K cases. On the inside of the back panel there is a small Woz signature and in the middle there is a huge Jobs signature. Ironically enough, the huge Jobs signature is obscured but the small Woz sig remains intact. Unless this had a different Woz signature, then it's prob worth <$500 on eBay, even with accessories.

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My friend has Wozniack edition apple 2 in his barn.
These are not worth a whole lot considering that there were 10,000 made starting in '86 and the ROM was a limiting factor for many extended functions. The boards with later ROM revisions fetch more $ on eBay as you can do more with them. Without a patch the ROM 00 on the Woz Apple //'s will even not run GS/OS.

Didn't want to be so negative, but these things pop up on eBay all the time.
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To see a photo of the signatures on the inside of a Mac Plus case, take a look at my site here:

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Apparently the Mac IIfx was the most expensive Mac. Also $10,000.


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Wait, how much was the TAM? I thought it was just over that retail. I've heard a lot of different figures, but I wasn't paying any attention when it was released, and price breaks came fast...

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Wait, how much was the TAM? I thought it was just over that retail. I've heard a lot of different figures, but I wasn't paying any attention when it was released, and price breaks came fast...

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http://www.apple-history.com/quickga...niversary.html

Apple history says $<10K for the TAM. But was still one of the most expensive if not best-looking.
Lisa was not a Mac but was $10K.
IIfx was a Macó $10k.

These represent the top of their respective niches in the Apple line:
TAM - Table-top luxury
LISA - Multi-tasking GUI Innovation/Implementation
IIfx - "wicked fast"

Hard to think my humble S900 clone sold for close to $5K just a few years ago. I have a list of the most expensive Macs in a Macworld secrets book at work, too bad I don't have it here. The book also shows devaluation of Macs over time. IIfx is like <$50, LISA 1/2 <$1000/$<500, and TAM - <$1500 (estimated eBay values). TAM and LISA are just collectibles now. Mac II series is not really desirable for collecting.

With rampant consumerism in today's computer market, seems hard to believe that people used to spend that much, comparitively.
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