Redesigned iPod nano in Fall?

MacRumors · Apr 25, 2006, 08:18 AM

Appleinsider reports that Apple has begun plans for a redesign of an iPod nano due this fall.

The new Nano is expected around September but there are plans for a "significant internal redesign".

This plan is consistent with PortalPlayer's recent announcement that their chips would not be used in future flash based iPods.

Shamus · Apr 25, 2006, 08:27 AM

"Significant Internal Redesign". Does this mean same external form factor?
Hopefully this rumor proves to be true, I have been holding off buying a nano till they are updated.

shadowmoses · Apr 25, 2006, 08:28 AM

I can't see what they can do with the Nano externally, unless they make the screen bigger. This would make sense though seeing as Apple have ditched Portal Player,

ShadoW

Veldek · Apr 25, 2006, 08:28 AM

I wonder what these significant redesigns could be good for. Does the new chip allow other components to become better, e.g. better battery life or greater capacity?

bigandy · Apr 25, 2006, 08:33 AM

i'm thinking the form factor will stay the same as it's the first significant update.

battery life will probably stay the same, while capacity will increase.

the major internal shake up is probably removing the PP chip, and including a custom designed system on chip, which could, in the future, run any ipod - to save costs.

this is funah · Apr 25, 2006, 08:53 AM

8 and 10GB maybe?

(second thoughts) meh, but theyre selling well enough as it is.

Kardashian · Apr 25, 2006, 09:21 AM

I love Nanos. Okay, the screen kind of puts me off a bit, and I find the length of it, I dunno, it seems too 'long' - stretched almost.

But the fact its an iPod, and its so thin.. well I want one

But, 2GB is nowhere near enough for me, 4GB isn't either.. although I am trying to justify it - but then when I think I had my 30GB Video for like £30 more, I can't justify it.

But, if I could get a 8GB (min.).. or an ideal 10GB.. I would definatley buy.

PS: Steve, a tiny bit bigger screen, please, Sir!

Yvan256 · Apr 25, 2006, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigandy

[...] the major internal shake up is probably removing the PP chip, and including a custom designed system on chip, which could, in the future, run any ipod - to save costs.

Standard iPod chip with audio/video playback capabilities... I'm guessing 8GB/12GB iPod nano with video playback.

MacSA · Apr 25, 2006, 10:43 AM

I'd rather they did something with the rather poor battery life iPods have before changing anything else.

Doctor Q · Apr 25, 2006, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamus

"Significant Internal Redesign". Does this mean same external form factor?

I'd guess no. If they changed the form factor in a significant way they'd probably stop calling it the nano.

boncellis · Apr 25, 2006, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Q

I'd guess no. If they changed the form factor in a significant way they'd probably stop calling it the nano.

Have I told you you're awesome yet today, Doctor Q?

I think you're right, but they could come out with something new with the Nano taking the low end spot of the Shuffle. I don't pretend to know what it would be, but I think the Nano was the last "new" thing that Apple came out with. They've been so busy updating their line, with good reason, but when will Apple blow us away with something completely new?

Maybe I'm asking for too much too soon.

Mitch1984 · Apr 25, 2006, 02:48 PM

maybe the internal redesign is so they can make more room for video capabilities.

I want an iPod HiFi but am waiting to see if they do one that streams wirelessly via airport??

javierbds · Apr 25, 2006, 02:52 PM

IMHO, the form factor of the nano is the form factor for the iPhone ...

I would not enjoy video in such a little screen unless it was 'real time' video, but what do I know, it seems teens enjoy their minivideos on mobile phones ... Maybe because there is nothing better ...

Mitch1984 · Apr 25, 2006, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javierbds

IMHO, the form factor of the nano is the form factor for the iPhone ...

I would not enjoy video in such a little screen unless it was 'real time' video, but what do I know, it seems teens enjoy their minivideos on mobile phones ... Maybe because there is nothing better ...

I think an iPod would look a bit less iconic with a number pad on a phone, which is why I believe an iPhone would utilize Apples plans for the next video iPod and have a touch dial.

Proud Liberal · Apr 25, 2006, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boncellis

I think you're right, but they could come out with something new with the Nano taking the low end spot of the Shuffle. I don't pretend to know what it would be, but I think the Nano was the last "new" thing that Apple came out with. They've been so busy updating their line, with good reason, but when will Apple blow us away with something completely new?

I just came across this article while I was doing some stock research...
http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/fund...0281432_2.html

It indicates, in the paragraphs discussing AAPL, that there are 4 new iPods forthcoming - whatever that means!

kneeslasher · Apr 25, 2006, 12:49 PM

The only thing putting me off buying any iPod, but most especially the Nano is the lack of one feature: transcode or down sample on the fly when synchronising iTunes to the iPod.

For those of us keeping our music in lossless on iTunes, the iPod/iTunes integration becomes non-existant since no iPod can carry that amount of music and even if it could, it would kill the battery. The only solution is to transcode when putting stuff on the iPod, which right now has to be done manually, killing the joy of the iTunes/iPod experience. The Shuffle actually has this ability! God knows why the rest of the iPod line (especially the Nano) don't have the feature!

Diatribe · Apr 25, 2006, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kneeslasher

The only thing putting me off buying any iPod, but most especially the Nano is the lack of one feature: transcode or down sample on the fly when synchronising iTunes to the iPod.

For those of us keeping our music in lossless on iTunes, the iPod/iTunes integration becomes non-existant since no iPod can carry that amount of music and even if it could, it would kill the battery. The only solution is to transcode when putting stuff on the iPod, which right now has to be done manually, killing the joy of the iTunes/iPod experience. The Shuffle actually has this ability! God knows why the rest of the iPod line (especially the Nano) don't have the feature!

Yes, just write a mail to Apple. Maybe they'll listen when other people besides me start bothering them too.

octoberdeath · May 19, 2006, 12:55 AM

ya hopefully they will redisgn it like the older iPod Mini but with a larger screen! those were the best designed iPods i think apple has ever released. brushed aluminum...oh so nice!

PJJames · May 19, 2006, 03:54 AM

Im hoping to see bluetooth on the newew iPods. Possibley Front Row....built in iSight with Photo Booth.

octoberdeath · May 19, 2006, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJJames

Im hoping to see bluetooth on the newew iPods. Possibley Front Row....built in iSight with Photo Booth.

wow your hoping for a whole lot. that would be cool though to be able to take pictures and all. bluetooth should be something i think they should go with though as well, like you said. we could update contacts, calender, music, and what would be cool is if we could update with mini games all while sitting across the room! buy them off iTunes for a small fee.

G5power · May 19, 2006, 10:53 AM

MicroCenter has been running a special for $25 off of both the 2 & 4 GB Nano.
http://www.microcenter.com/

The previous time Microcenter had a special on Apple hardware was a package including LCD with the G4 mini before it was discontinued for the Intel version. I assume that this indicates that the Nano is on the way out to be replaced by new versions.

Like previous posters, I would love to see the capacity at least double. I would like to get an iPod to use in my car (through an input cable into my stereo) and would prefer to not have an iPod with a hard drive.

alienex · May 19, 2006, 12:11 PM

Id like to see better battery life and GASP a thinner nano?!?!?!?!?!
Why cause it would be cooler. Its fine the way it is though for now...i would guess they would try to make it possible to watch videos on it comfortably.

DanBook · May 19, 2006, 11:37 PM

As I understand it, Samsung currently supplies Apple with the flash memory it uses in the nano. Right now they're using one or two 1 GB NAND chips or one 4 GB chip, depending on the configuration.

According to

http://samsung.com/Products/Semicond...lash/index.htm

Samsung's NAND non-volatile memory has already achieved 8 GB. The only questions that remain are whether it's cheap enough, and whether Apple can fit it inside the nano while maintaining the same form factor. If the answers to these questions are yes, then we can probably expect 8 and 16 GB versions this fall.

myshoeshurt · May 20, 2006, 05:49 PM

I love my Nano... the look and feel is great. I imagine the storage capacity will increase greatly.

celebrian23 · May 20, 2006, 10:18 PM

I would love an 8 or 16 GB nano. Right now, if I want the newest model, I jump from 4GB to 30GB. 4 is too small. 30 is way too large. I miss the days of 10 and 15GB ipods. Until they find a more "inbetween" size, I won't buy an ipod

Apr 25, 2006, 08:18 AM	#1
MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Redesigned iPod nano in Fall? Appleinsider reports that Apple has begun plans for a redesign of an iPod nano due this fall. The new Nano is expected around September but there are plans for a "significant internal redesign". This plan is consistent with PortalPlayer's recent announcement that their chips would not be used in future flash based iPods.

Apr 25, 2006, 08:28 AM	#3
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Apr 25, 2006, 08:28 AM	#4
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Apr 25, 2006, 08:33 AM	#5
bigandy macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Soho, London	i'm thinking the form factor will stay the same as it's the first significant update. battery life will probably stay the same, while capacity will increase. the major internal shake up is probably removing the PP chip, and including a custom designed system on chip, which could, in the future, run any ipod - to save costs. __________________ "any day that involves cat pee is a really bad day" - iBlue ǝןƃooɹɯ

Apr 25, 2006, 08:53 AM	#6
this is funah macrumors member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Western NY	8 and 10GB maybe? (second thoughts) meh, but theyre selling well enough as it is. __________________ 17" iMac G5 1.9GHz 1GB DDR2 RAM (built-in iSight) iBook G3 500mHz 12"

Apr 25, 2006, 08:27 AM	#2
Shamus macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2006	"Significant Internal Redesign". Does this mean same external form factor? Hopefully this rumor proves to be true, I have been holding off buying a nano till they are updated.

Apr 25, 2006, 09:21 AM	#7
Kardashian Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Britain.	8GB or 10GB PLEASE! I love Nanos. Okay, the screen kind of puts me off a bit, and I find the length of it, I dunno, it seems too 'long' - stretched almost. But the fact its an iPod, and its so thin.. well I want one But, 2GB is nowhere near enough for me, 4GB isn't either.. although I am trying to justify it - but then when I think I had my 30GB Video for like £30 more, I can't justify it. But, if I could get a 8GB (min.).. or an ideal 10GB.. I would definatley buy. PS: Steve, a tiny bit bigger screen, please, Sir!

Apr 25, 2006, 10:43 AM	#9
MacSA macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK	I'd rather they did something with the rather poor battery life iPods have before changing anything else.

Apr 25, 2006, 02:48 PM	#12
Mitch1984 macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Telford	maybe the internal redesign is so they can make more room for video capabilities. I want an iPod HiFi but am waiting to see if they do one that streams wirelessly via airport??

Apr 25, 2006, 02:52 PM	#13
javierbds macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madrid, Spain	IMHO, the form factor of the nano is the form factor for the iPhone ... I would not enjoy video in such a little screen unless it was 'real time' video, but what do I know, it seems teens enjoy their minivideos on mobile phones ... Maybe because there is nothing better ...

Apr 25, 2006, 12:49 PM	#16
kneeslasher macrumors member Join Date: Jun 2004	Transcode (down sample) on the fly. The only thing putting me off buying any iPod, but most especially the Nano is the lack of one feature: transcode or down sample on the fly when synchronising iTunes to the iPod. For those of us keeping our music in lossless on iTunes, the iPod/iTunes integration becomes non-existant since no iPod can carry that amount of music and even if it could, it would kill the battery. The only solution is to transcode when putting stuff on the iPod, which right now has to be done manually, killing the joy of the iTunes/iPod experience. The Shuffle actually has this ability! God knows why the rest of the iPod line (especially the Nano) don't have the feature!

May 19, 2006, 12:55 AM	#18
octoberdeath macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2005	ya hopefully they will redisgn it like the older iPod Mini but with a larger screen! those were the best designed iPods i think apple has ever released. brushed aluminum...oh so nice! __________________ 2GHz PowerMac G5 (w/1GB RAM)

May 19, 2006, 03:54 AM	#19
PJJames macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2006	Im hoping to see bluetooth on the newew iPods. Possibley Front Row....built in iSight with Photo Booth.

May 19, 2006, 10:53 AM	#21
G5power macrumors 6502 Join Date: Feb 2005	MicroCenter special on Nano MicroCenter has been running a special for $25 off of both the 2 & 4 GB Nano. http://www.microcenter.com/ The previous time Microcenter had a special on Apple hardware was a package including LCD with the G4 mini before it was discontinued for the Intel version. I assume that this indicates that the Nano is on the way out to be replaced by new versions. Like previous posters, I would love to see the capacity at least double. I would like to get an iPod to use in my car (through an input cable into my stereo) and would prefer to not have an iPod with a hard drive. __________________ iMac 2.8 Ghz 4 GB RAM 500 GB Mini 1.66 & 24 inch Dell 2405 LCD

May 19, 2006, 12:11 PM	#22
alienex macrumors regular Join Date: Feb 2005	Id like to see better battery life and GASP a thinner nano?!?!?!?!?! Why cause it would be cooler. Its fine the way it is though for now...i would guess they would try to make it possible to watch videos on it comfortably.

May 19, 2006, 11:37 PM	#23
DanBook macrumors newbie Join Date: May 2006	Anticipated Upgrades As I understand it, Samsung currently supplies Apple with the flash memory it uses in the nano. Right now they're using one or two 1 GB NAND chips or one 4 GB chip, depending on the configuration. According to http://samsung.com/Products/Semicond...lash/index.htm Samsung's NAND non-volatile memory has already achieved 8 GB. The only questions that remain are whether it's cheap enough, and whether Apple can fit it inside the nano while maintaining the same form factor. If the answers to these questions are yes, then we can probably expect 8 and 16 GB versions this fall.

May 20, 2006, 05:49 PM	#24
myshoeshurt macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Victoria, B.C.	I love my Nano... the look and feel is great. I imagine the storage capacity will increase greatly. __________________ ::: MacBook C2D 2.0GHz, 80GB HDD, 1GB RAM, DL SuperDrive, Giant Smile on Face ::: 5G iPod Video, 60GB, Black

May 20, 2006, 10:18 PM	#25
celebrian23 macrumors 65816 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under the sun	I would love an 8 or 16 GB nano. Right now, if I want the newest model, I jump from 4GB to 30GB. 4 is too small. 30 is way too large. I miss the days of 10 and 15GB ipods. Until they find a more "inbetween" size, I won't buy an ipod __________________ C'est la vie !

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