Quark OS X - Testing

MacRumors · 04:40 PM

News.com reports that Quark is providing some more details on the upcoming QuarkXPress OS X:

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Quark on Tuesday began posting details about QuarkXPress 6 on its Web site. The initial release includes information on OS X compatibility, user interface refinements and expanded "undo" options. "This is the first glimpse--we'll be announcing more information every couple of weeks," Turpin said.

No exact timeframe is quoted, but Turpin reports they are "in the home stretch".

Meanwhile, MacFixIt reports that a promotional email indicates that QuarkXPress 5.0 users will be able to upgrade to 6.0 for free

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For a limited time, upgrade to QuarkXPress 5.0 and receive an upgrade to the upcoming release of QuarkXPress 6.0 at no additional charge.

Freg3000 · Feb 18, 2003, 04:34 PM

This is almost as exciting as a Microsoft Security Update!

Yawn . . .

jayscheuerle · Feb 18, 2003, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Macrumors
Turpin reports they are "in the home stretch".

Great! Just 9 months away!!

jethroted · Feb 18, 2003, 05:00 PM

HURRY UP QUARK!!!!!!!!!!! You slow bastards!!!!

e-coli · Feb 18, 2003, 05:07 PM

yippee. a company that has procrastinated themselves into irrelevance is now playing catch-up.

yawn.

DreaminDirector · Feb 18, 2003, 05:09 PM

Sorry Quark, switched to Adobe InDesign awhile ago. All Quark can do now is sit back and watch the market share continue to slide away....

brossow · Feb 18, 2003, 05:25 PM

Whoa! Talk about reading way too much into a statement.

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Meanwhile, MacFixIt reports that a promotional email indicates that QuarkXPress 5.0 users will be able to upgrade to 6.0 for free: "For a limited time, upgrade to QuarkXPress 5.0 and receive an upgrade to the upcoming release of QuarkXPress 6.0 at no additional charge."

Quite clearly the promotion is for people upgrading NOW from a version prior to 5.0, saying that if they purchase the 5.0 upgrade now then they'll get the 6.0 upgrade for free when it is released, a common practice for most major software companies in anticipation of an upcoming major version upgrade. In absolutely no way does this even hint that existing 5.0 users will get the 6.0 upgrade for free. Sheesh....

Wry Cooter · Feb 18, 2003, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by brossow
Whoa! Talk about reading way too much into a statement.

Quite clearly the promotion is for people upgrading NOW from a version prior to 5.0, saying that if they purchase the 5.0 upgrade now then they'll get the 6.0 upgrade for free when it is released, a common practice for most major software companies in anticipation of an upcoming major version upgrade. In absolutely no way does this even hint that existing 5.0 users will get the 6.0 upgrade for free. Sheesh....

Nah, you just weren't reading between the lines... What existing 5.0 users, huh?

Quark knows as well as anyone that practically no one has bought XP5 yet. So what is that, 2 years without income for Quark? They want you to buy now so they can make payroll and clear inventory. They have a lot of dusty boxes.

The customers were wanting an OS X version when 5 was released, didn't need a new version with web design tweaks so quick on the heels of 4, because they used other apps for web and really didn't need to port a print project over to HTML as is. This same customer base has been waiting for an OS X version ever since, until Adobe got InDesign into shape with version 2, and started almost giving it away.

idkew · Feb 18, 2003, 06:25 PM

boring.

indesign has won already. RIP quark.

jayscheuerle · Feb 18, 2003, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by DreaminDirector
Sorry Quark, switched to Adobe InDesign awhile ago. All Quark can do now is sit back and watch the market share continue to slide away....

Yeah, I've heard they're down to 98% of the publishing market now... It's pathetic that such a lame company can hang onto a market just by setting the standard a decade ago & I have a feeling they've learned very little from InDesign's positive reviews. I don't expect Quark 6 to stray very far from Quark 3.3....

iJon · Feb 18, 2003, 08:40 PM

wow, i certainly dont care. i already talked the head of our newspaper to purchase 8 copies of InDesign for the paper.

iJon

robotrenegade · Feb 18, 2003, 08:48 PM

I have already gotten Adobe Indesign and like it more then quark. I have been waiting for this update as long as I been waiting for a driver for my canon scanner. But that scanner went out the door awhile ago.

mangoman · Feb 18, 2003, 09:17 PM

(yaawwwn) (moves cursor over InDesign alias) (double clicks) (yawnnn)...

Did somebody say something about InDesign?

macboy · Feb 18, 2003, 09:57 PM

I use both InDesign 2.0 and Quark 4.0. I like InDesign but like a few features in Quark... maybe those features are in InDesign and I haven't found them yet... I would like to see a 30 day trial or a demo version of Quark 6 before I'd buy it... Quark 5 sucked and I'm a little nervous about jumping to Quark 6... I would love a trial copy to see how it works... InDesign has a trial so why can't quark...

I know a lot of people hate quark, but here's the fact... a lot of people still use quark. InDesign hasn't made it to every publishing dept yet. So quark, please get quark 6 out soon.

mangoman · Feb 18, 2003, 10:01 PM

(yaawwwn) (scratch-scratch)

yzedf · Feb 18, 2003, 11:01 PM

i gotta agree guys...

who cares? not that Adobe as a company is a great alternative...

*sigh*

chewbaccapits · Feb 19, 2003, 01:22 AM

I still say BOYCOTT QRACK!

charboneau · Feb 19, 2003, 02:13 AM

I've also heard about some great new Amiga software coming out.

Dandee · Feb 19, 2003, 02:22 AM

Just wait until Adobe gets that M$ attitude. All in the context of: that company's dead is our bread. Suddenly upgrades are gonna cost money. Specifically built-in bugs with no any other reason to get people upgrading.
Maybe I'm a little pessimistic but... time will learn. I for sure gonna stick with Quark for one reason: Quark possibilities for my branche is 90% of the program and Indesign 20%. And I won't have to open 27 windows to get what I need to get productive.
It's not that I don't want to switch to ID, but my prepressers are satiesfied with Quark, Illustrator and Photoshop.

Awimoway · Feb 19, 2003, 03:08 AM

Has anyone seen the preview? It's a crappy carbonization of the OS 9 version. Further evidence that they just don't give a damn.

The great irony of my switch to Apple last summer, which I did because I was entering an editing and layout study program, is that I have traded in my slavery to one arrogant monopoly--MS--for another--Quark (because unlike a lot of people here, my school and employer don't give me the freedom to use InDesign--most people defer to its presence as the "standard" the way others do to Windows).

dongmin · Feb 19, 2003, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Macrumors
The initial release includes information on OS X compatibility, user interface refinements and expanded "undo" options.

Multiple undos!!! Holy cow, that's so ... 1994!

dekator · Feb 19, 2003, 06:29 AM

Will Quark 6 be Cocoa or Carbon ?

This may be decisive. If it's Cocoa, it may well justifiy the time they needed and will give them a nice edge over Adobe once Apple starts selling non-PPCs too (which *will* happen).

Wash!! · Feb 19, 2003, 09:03 AM

Long Live InDesign, by he way if ADOBE wants to become another M$ is not going to happen because they could have done already.

Cheers!!

tYNS · Feb 19, 2003, 10:34 AM

I don't understand this company. Who heads their marketting and project management. For one this apparent "upgrade" to 6 is 2 years past due. Unacceptable.

Now, I read on their own website. "Get full-resolution preview functionality when you register your software with Quark!" with an exclamation mark at the end? That is embarassing! Why the heck do I have to register my software use my internet bandwidth and my time to download a feature which SHOULD BE standard in the software. Not only Standard, but implemented back in Quark 3. This is ridiculos? Who thought up this hair-brain registration idea?

Buy Quark 5 now! we will give you a Quark 5 box, a cd for the Quark 5.01 upgrade (which we will abandon any future upgrades for because our only trained programming monkey is focussing on Quark 6), then we will give you a new box for Quark 6 (when it is available next year) then you can come to our website and download the rest of Quark 6's functionality... Ah don't forget 5 months down the road when enough people complain of printing errors, postscript problems and program crashes we will toss our our lead monkey programmer another banana to provide you a free upgrade, hopefully, to 6.01 then 6.02 then 6.03 then 6.04a then 6.04b then 6.1 then 6.1a then 6.11 .. What more could you ask for!

Make sure to sign up for our Beta list! We will throw in a free copy of Indesign to appease any shortcomings of our own software.

iPegboy · Feb 19, 2003, 10:47 AM

They might be idiots, but they still are the standard.

Journalism is a financially strapped business and I don't think many will be able to "upgrade" to InDesign very soon. Heck, the newsroom where I worked had like 4 G4's in the whole place. It's littered with old powermacs. 266 mHz.

Feb 18, 2003, 04:34 PM	#2
Freg3000 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York	This is almost as exciting as a Microsoft Security Update! Yawn . . . __________________ FregTK This Is Momentum.

Feb 18, 2003, 05:00 PM	#4
jethroted macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cyberspace	Hurry Up! HURRY UP QUARK!!!!!!!!!!! You slow bastards!!!!

Feb 18, 2003, 05:09 PM	#6
DreaminDirector macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Emeryville, CA	too little too late.... Sorry Quark, switched to Adobe InDesign awhile ago. All Quark can do now is sit back and watch the market share continue to slide away.... __________________ "There's always something waiting at the end of the road. If you're not willing to see what it is, you probably shouldn't be out there in the first place."

Feb 18, 2003, 08:48 PM	#12
robotrenegade macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Greenville,SC	2 Years to late I have already gotten Adobe Indesign and like it more then quark. I have been waiting for this update as long as I been waiting for a driver for my canon scanner. But that scanner went out the door awhile ago. __________________ 60GB iPod \| 17" Mac Book Pro \| Mac OS 10.5.4 \| 8GB iphone

Feb 18, 2003, 09:17 PM	#13
mangoman macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Second Floor	(yaawwwn) (moves cursor over InDesign alias) (double clicks) (yawnnn)... Did somebody say something about InDesign? __________________ I'll be doin' mine in InDesign. —mm

Feb 18, 2003, 05:07 PM	#5
e-coli macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brooklyn	yippee. a company that has procrastinated themselves into irrelevance is now playing catch-up. yawn.

Feb 18, 2003, 06:25 PM	#9
idkew macrumors 68020 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: where the concrete to dirt ratio is better	boring. indesign has won already. RIP quark.

Feb 18, 2003, 08:40 PM	#11
iJon macrumors 601 Join Date: Feb 2002	wow, i certainly dont care. i already talked the head of our newspaper to purchase 8 copies of InDesign for the paper. iJon

Feb 18, 2003, 09:57 PM	#14
macboy macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2001	I use both InDesign 2.0 and Quark 4.0. I like InDesign but like a few features in Quark... maybe those features are in InDesign and I haven't found them yet... I would like to see a 30 day trial or a demo version of Quark 6 before I'd buy it... Quark 5 sucked and I'm a little nervous about jumping to Quark 6... I would love a trial copy to see how it works... InDesign has a trial so why can't quark... I know a lot of people hate quark, but here's the fact... a lot of people still use quark. InDesign hasn't made it to every publishing dept yet. So quark, please get quark 6 out soon.

Feb 18, 2003, 10:01 PM	#15
mangoman macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Second Floor	(yaawwwn) (scratch-scratch) __________________ I'll be doin' mine in InDesign. —mm

Feb 18, 2003, 11:01 PM	#16
yzedf Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Connecticut	i gotta agree guys... who cares? not that Adobe as a company is a great alternative... sigh

Feb 19, 2003, 01:22 AM	#17
chewbaccapits macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Torrance, Californizzel	I still say BOYCOTT QRACK! __________________ RAHHHHHHHH

Feb 19, 2003, 02:13 AM	#18
charboneau macrumors member Join Date: Dec 2002	I've also heard about some great new Amiga software coming out.

Feb 19, 2003, 02:22 AM	#19
Dandee macrumors newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere between my Mac and the Firewall	Just wait until Adobe gets that M$ attitude. All in the context of: that company's dead is our bread. Suddenly upgrades are gonna cost money. Specifically built-in bugs with no any other reason to get people upgrading. Maybe I'm a little pessimistic but... time will learn. I for sure gonna stick with Quark for one reason: Quark possibilities for my branche is 90% of the program and Indesign 20%. And I won't have to open 27 windows to get what I need to get productive. It's not that I don't want to switch to ID, but my prepressers are satiesfied with Quark, Illustrator and Photoshop. __________________ I know Bill, but i adore Steve!

Feb 19, 2003, 03:08 AM	#20
Awimoway macrumors 65816 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the edge	Has anyone seen the preview? It's a crappy carbonization of the OS 9 version. Further evidence that they just don't give a damn. The great irony of my switch to Apple last summer, which I did because I was entering an editing and layout study program, is that I have traded in my slavery to one arrogant monopoly--MS--for another--Quark (because unlike a lot of people here, my school and employer don't give me the freedom to use InDesign--most people defer to its presence as the "standard" the way others do to Windows).

Feb 19, 2003, 06:29 AM	#22
dekator macrumors regular Join Date: May 2002 Location: Krautistan	Cocoa or Carbon ? Will Quark 6 be Cocoa or Carbon ? This may be decisive. If it's Cocoa, it may well justifiy the time they needed and will give them a nice edge over Adobe once Apple starts selling non-PPCs too (which will happen).

Feb 19, 2003, 09:03 AM	#23
Wash!! macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here, there, who knows	Quack is dead Long Live InDesign, by he way if ADOBE wants to become another M$ is not going to happen because they could have done already. Cheers!! __________________ Anyone who has never make a mistake has never tried anything new... imagination is more important than knowledge ----- G5 1.8Ghz 1gig ram baby!!!; G3 B/W/512 ram; G4 400/1 gigi ram; G4 450/20gig/1.5 gig ram; iMac 400 special edition; PowerMac 7100/80mhz; Mac LC; 15gig 3G ipod-1994 songs and counting!!; 5 gig Original ipod-200 songs (mostly Japanese); newton 100; newton 130

Feb 19, 2003, 10:34 AM	#24
tYNS macrumors member Join Date: Jul 2001	Quark? what are you doing? I don't understand this company. Who heads their marketting and project management. For one this apparent "upgrade" to 6 is 2 years past due. Unacceptable. Now, I read on their own website. "Get full-resolution preview functionality when you register your software with Quark!" with an exclamation mark at the end? That is embarassing! Why the heck do I have to register my software use my internet bandwidth and my time to download a feature which SHOULD BE standard in the software. Not only Standard, but implemented back in Quark 3. This is ridiculos? Who thought up this hair-brain registration idea? Buy Quark 5 now! we will give you a Quark 5 box, a cd for the Quark 5.01 upgrade (which we will abandon any future upgrades for because our only trained programming monkey is focussing on Quark 6), then we will give you a new box for Quark 6 (when it is available next year) then you can come to our website and download the rest of Quark 6's functionality... Ah don't forget 5 months down the road when enough people complain of printing errors, postscript problems and program crashes we will toss our our lead monkey programmer another banana to provide you a free upgrade, hopefully, to 6.01 then 6.02 then 6.03 then 6.04a then 6.04b then 6.1 then 6.1a then 6.11 .. What more could you ask for! Make sure to sign up for our Beta list! We will throw in a free copy of Indesign to appease any shortcomings of our own software.

Feb 19, 2003, 10:47 AM	#25
iPegboy macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Detroit	They might be idiots, but they still are the standard. Journalism is a financially strapped business and I don't think many will be able to "upgrade" to InDesign very soon. Heck, the newsroom where I worked had like 4 G4's in the whole place. It's littered with old powermacs. 266 mHz. __________________ "Rules are meant for smart people to break." Dr. Dennis Renner

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